Re: Interesting

You have my sympathy and apology for how you were treated by anyone from another camp... whether ML's or not. I do not read all of the posts... not nearly .05% of them most likely, so I cannot comment, so I am unaware of most of the issues you opened up your post with.

>>"LD Di is as biased as you are."<<

We are all biased to one degree or another - disagreement would not exist if we were not.

>>"Interesting how you all of a sudden require evidence. Tell all of us did you ever demand evidence of Moreless' claims?"<<

Anyone who has followed me here for any number of years knows I researched the he!! out of ML's claims... no, I did not ask him for any proof... I saught it on my own.

>>"Especially after it was proven over and over that he was full of it?"<<

His explanations are cryptic and rather vague... that does not make him "full of it". It does however cause issues for those that are unable to research, study and discover things for themselves.

He defended Iodine in kelp against people who now live and breathe the Iodine supplementation protocols, he brought up problems with NPN's that are in the news almost daily... and many other things I will not go into... you get the point.

My point is that he did bring value to these forums... and I have seen his various teachings in various forms used and taught by others here.

Understand something here... when I give him credit for holding fast and defending a position... I am not DEFENDING his behavior. These are two very different things.

>>"If not then why are you all of a sudden asking someone to verify a claim when you did not require the same of someone who was making up their "facts" as they went along?"<<

A personal testimony claim whether good or bad requires some bit of proof... a statement about this or that "fact" in Science can be researched.

I never blamed the victim... just questioned the validity of the post... and 91565 did that for me in a civil and very humble way. A most upstanding individual IMO.

>>"This is NO EXCUSE. Where were the warnings of possible problems from the protocol? Where did Moreless tell people with hypercalcemia, hemochromatosis, polycythemia, etc. that this protocol is contraindicated for them? Even when he was told of the danger he denied it and even said people with hemochromatosis (an iron overload condition) can use blackstrap molassses (high in iron) because it lacked NPN. This is not only a load of garbage, but it is a potentially deadly claim. So why do you insist on continuing with blaming the victim when Moreless mislead people in to believing that this dangerous protocol was perfectly safe for everyone and a cure all for every disease and condition?

You are forgetting the possible danger of the black strap molasses as well. But since you brought up the calcium hydroxide (lime water) again I ask where were the warnings for this caustic substance other than on the bag where it states to avoid contact with the skin or other tissues? And before you try to defend this with the addition of lemon juice argument tell me how is someone supposed to know when all the caustic alkali is neutralized without a pH meter? And if all the alkali is neutralized is is really alkalinizing at that point. Be sure to provide evidence to your answer since all of a sudden you seem interested in backing claims."<<

Let me tell you a little story. You promote the use of Yucca root on your forum... my mom is a huge fan of yucca root and I tried it for a while... inside of the FIRST week, my calves and feet were painfully swelling up at night... quit the yucca root, everything almost back to normal within a week; edema gone. I have not countered any of your posts recommending it with my negative experience... when perhaps it would be beneficial for them to know.

This can happen, and does happen to people on any protocol here, those trying anything... INCLUDING herbs, spices, foods, if it is contraindicated for them... no argument from me here.

everyone is different... and just because I have had miraculous recovery using the protocol, does not mean another would. Nor does it mean anyone else should do it... the same goes for most ANY protocol, save for avoiding man made chemical poisons, eating the best foods, drinking the best water, and living the best one can under the circumstances... that, we can all agree on. There is no one size fits all in diet, medicine, natural, alternative, or otherwise... you already know that.

If I were ML, I would rehash the cautions over and over... he has, rarely, and from time to time, but as I have stated, and most likely to you in a post before, not nearly enough.

We need to keep this all in perspective and understand that one man's poison, is another man's food.

grz-