Re: Interesting

 While I do understand your argument, and I also understand that ML has always been a very popular punching bag around here for most,

When people are being punched they will punch back. So you are attacking the victim again. And it is Moreless' attitude that gets him in to trouble. I have been called Satan by him for disagreeing with him. I have been repeatedly attacked by his attack dogs for proving him wrong. I was attacked for refusing to answer a question about my religious beliefs because the board WAS NOT about religion. Should I go on with examples? It is just such a shame that someone becomes the target of the Moreless forum just because they disagree with Moreless and expose his lies with real evidence!

the post in your forum is not at all clear as LD Di pointed out.

LD Di is as biased as you are. So I really don't care her opinion.

And for all we know a made up story - where are the before and after photos? Where is the detailed protocol usage report? These things would go a long way to helping others (assuming for the moment the post is true - you have expressed your doubts on testimonials, I am expressing mine with this post). As it stands, it does not seem to do that at all.

Interesting how you all of a sudden require evidence. Tell all of us did you ever demand evidence of Moreless' claims? Especially after it was proven over and over that he was full of it? If not then why are you all of a sudden asking someone to verify a claim when you did not require the same of someone who was making up their "facts" as they went along?

I will give more credit to the post when I see expansion of it... photos (and they better be from the same colon) and exact usage and for how long... how mixed, etc. The details matter here. At this point 91565 has not stated anything except to bash... and perhaps it is legitimate, however it does not come off that way... and, 91565 seems to be in a pretty cheery mood for having done something like that to themselves...

Gee, if I found out what was causing a severe problem and I was able to address that problem with accurate information finally I would be pretty cheery as well. Sounds like you are trying to blame the victim again.

Perhaps detailing it all (how much, how often, mixed with what and proportions, etc) and laying it out in the Alkaline/Acid debate forum would be prudent in this case - for all.

It would have been prudent for all if you would have demanded evidence from Moreless all along. Just think of all the people you could have potentially helped by allowing people to the potential dangers BEFORE they tried the protocol and injured themselves.

If 91565 is not willing to do this, or is unable, their concern for others is suspect, as is their initial and subsequent posts.

Most, people do not seem to understand that ANY protocol (except for eating and living right, which is the foundation of the ML's protocol to begin with) can be over used/over done... including the use of herbs.

This is NO EXCUSE. Where were the warnings of possible problems from the protocol? Where did Moreless tell people with hypercalcemia, hemochromatosis, polycythemia, etc. that this protocol is contraindicated for them? Even when he was told of the danger he denied it and even said people with hemochromatosis (an iron overload condition) can use blackstrap molassses (high in iron) because it lacked NPN. This is not only a load of garbage, but it is a potentially deadly claim. So why do you insist on continuing with blaming the victim when Moreless mislead people in to believing that this dangerous protocol was perfectly safe for everyone and a cure all for every disease and condition?

Selenium poisonings in livestock due to over ingestion of astragalus family foliage being but one example.

The only real issue that has ever held any ground with the ML protocol here is the limewater... so do not use it. How simple can it get?

You are forgetting the possible danger of the black strap molasses as well.  But since you brought up the calcium hydroxide (lime water) again I ask where were the warnings for this caustic substance other than on the bag where it states to avoid contact with the skin or other tissues? And before you try to defend this with the addition of lemon juice argument tell me how is someone supposed to know when all the caustic alkali is neutralized without a pH meter? And if all the alkali is neutralized is is really alkalinizing at that point. Be sure to provide evidence to your answer since all of a sudden you seem interested in backing claims.

There have always been cases where humans have over done a "good" thing... and there always will be.

And there have always been cases in history where people drank something dangerous, as in this case, and there always will be.