Re: To CLARIFY THIS IS FOR LOOSIE kinda long though..

I think you're misunderstanding my points in some areas still.

"It wasn't actually your comments re' fasting cannot "cure all" and has started people having more "eating disorders", where the latter is patently not true, and although you have suffered from an ED to which I can empathize, it was by your rudeness and the language you selected to support your views, which many found to be offensive and distasteful.
Just because you have suffered from an ED does not mean that everyone else who fasts will suffer the same fate, and where this was construed as a sweeping generality and where very little if any distinction was made between the two.
How would a newcomer to the forum perceive this type of language and post? It certainly wouldn't be encouraging or inspiring towards the introduction of fasting for health."


I never said my reasons why I had an ED had to do anything with fasting.. and what discourages me is that you still do not see how it possible for someone to abuse WF and end up having eating issues.. ie going back to the yo/yoing. Binging and fasting and binging and fasting is a non purge form of bulimia, since you like to look up stuff, look that up and educate yourself on that.

Or that people use these same tools and the post are extremely similar if the not the same in a pro ed forum. My question is.. when does a person start abusing WF and can't control it because of fear of weight gain, because they have not established a steady foundation and figured out why they use food as a source of comfort or why they got obese in the first place. Or does WF never have an abuse according to you?

I still ask you where have I ever said that anyone who WF gets an ED, this forum is the one that twisted that into some generality that I supposedly made. I only mentioned people who yo/yo. I keep saying this, and you keep saying you're hearing and reading what I'm saying yet you keep bringing the same thing up.


Instead you have just continued to copy and past stuff, I understand why you copy and paste.. but to me thats kind of diverging the point I am trying to make and you never touch base on, because why? you can't find any evidence via google? The evidence is infront of you on CZ, and many personally attest that WF has screwed them up.

I don't appreciate people staying I am against WF, why would I be here and why would I be WFing myself?

and yes you are right about drug therapies, but also again you fail to acknowledge that you can abuse alternative medicine. I see this my patients who come to me with screwed up intestines from flushing to their hearts content.

And what i meant about fasting life long, where those who are always starting a fast every week or every month. I believe I even mentioned that it was healthy to do it every few months, in my post that you supposedly read.

and you copying and pasting old stuff on Ed's is a waste of time. Until recently therapists didn't even believe one could be both anorexia and bulimic. And btw you copy and paste from western therapists as well straight out of wikipedia. I'm sorry but an ED isn't only caused from trauma or some psychological event. What about all those little girls that feel the need be thin like a celebrity and get one? wheres the trauma or abuse there? Do they not suffer from Ed's. You're point or lack there of to me makes no sense.

And there are more people coming here asking " if I fast for 20 days how much will I lose' then people coming here to cure heart disease, cancer, a cold, emotional issues etc, and that is fact, if you look around.

This has been a trend for a long time, so for you to mention on encouraging and educating, I don't see it.. all i see are people saying oh you can do it! Even to those when its clear fasting will do more harm right now in their lives than good.

I also think this forum is failing in educating that people in addition to fasting for weightloss need to work on figuring why and how they got into it in the first place, and make solid foundations so they don't yo yo and have to continue fasting everytime they put on some weight. Now don't tell me I'm disillusioned, I see it all the time on the two fasting forums.

I'm not gonna Sugar coat nonsense like everyone else does here, then turns in an animal when someone disagrees with them. Nor will I encourage posts for people saying oh I need to lose 60 lbs by xmas.. then I'm gonna eat xmas dinner and be done with it. That again is abusing WF. Period. How is that fasting for health? Its clear that you are extremely biased for WF, for whatever reasoning and that's you're perogative.

This will be the last time I explain myself to you or anyone on this forum. I feel like a broken record.

and I will continue to be rude and defensive when people start to attack and insult me personally. It takes more than one person to have an argument..but you know of course its only me no one else here with their 'negative energy'.

Anya