Thanks Pepe - I'll take it on board - Still eliminating, just the whole flush doesn't come out - I hear what yr saying about getting clogged up though - I kinda felt like that the first time I did the p&bs on the original fast - but haven't felt that way this time, things are definitely moving, but I don't doubt I have some blocks and constrictions in there - - - When I first did the p&bs on the other fast I actually felt a clog on the right hand side near the hip - it didn't shift for months, now it has - feels good, I'll go easy and give them a bit of a break - see how I go, if I feel clogged I'll stop. Other question is - since I'm going to do my first colonic - do I even need the p&b's or will that get all the same stuff out anyway?