Re: Oh Pleeeeze!!!!

"Any genuine Christian who is walking spiritually and not by rules alone, knows what washes away past failures and makes you "whole" again.    Hint: It ain't the doctor's needle and thread."

Well, it ain't J. C. either.  He said that the kingdom of god was at hand - 2,000 years ago (after John the Baptist lost his head for teaching the same thing), and it has never left the planet.  He also gave some pretty good instructions on how and where to find it as well.

If what you are implying "washes away past failures" - then why do they ask forgiveness for the same identical thing, over and over and over again.  I know, I've watched it for decades.  They're on one of the biggest guilt trips I've ever witnessed and they don't feel real unless they feel guilty.  It's their ministers way of controlling them.