Must report what is happening since the middle of last night.
As many know, I started Lugols, one drop per day a week ago. I mainly started Lugols to help breast condition but fully understood that it would detox my body.
Last night I experienced, very painful gas, pain in the small intestines and the colon all night long!!! Bowel movement finally this am but also painful. Still
experiencing the pain and BM was not my usual ....sorry do not know how to explain
this on the board. It was like I was constipated but I was not..well, sorta not.
My question, did anyone else go through this after starting Lugols? I did not
think I would have such a situation arise, since I'm only taking 1 drop per day and painting my right breast.
I did get up in the middle of the night and take some magnesium and also another dose of 1000mg of Vit. C. I have never experienced such pain like this and need some direction/advice on how to handle the situation. Should I have taken an addition 1/4 tsp salt in water followed by 16 oz. more water?
I surely do not want to continue down this path, but maybe it is necessary to clear
out something in the digestive track.
Iodine therapy works best with the fewest side effects when the paths of elimination are already open and working well. I would say that your body had released something that needed to be gotten out ASAP and your system was doing what it needed to do.
There are a lot of agents that are claimed to "cause" diarrhea when, in fact, it is the body's wisdom that is creating the conditions to flush out the offending substance before it is absorbed or reabsorbed to cause further problems. Everything from excess magnesium and Vitamin C to E Coli and Salmonella bacteria are passed quickly from the body through loose or liquid bowel movements because if they are allowed to remain they can be highly toxic or even deadly.
Ever wonder why some people can eat a hamburger infected with E Coli bacteria and have virtually no symptoms, while others may have violent diarrhea, yet others will suffer kidney failure, seizures, coma and death? The two most important reasons are a strong immune system and a strong elimination system that can fight and eliminate the dangerous toxins.
I believe that eventually Iodine will help us fight off many offending toxins and organisms when the body is fully supplied. Meanwhile, many of us have to deal with various forms of detox and getting our systems up to par.
I had suffered with chronic IBS 7 years ago. I worked on my immune system and
diet for 2 years to overcome the situation. Maybe I was not as well as I had
thought.
I do not want to experience the terrible pain but, if it is in fact detox, I will push forward. I was thinking this am to go off Lugols for a day or so. I also
ate out yesterday which is something I hardly ever do.
I'm still uncomfortable this morning but nothing like last night.
i was just going to mention that there are too many variables and unknowns to really put a finger on the cause of this. i find Iodine to make everything work better, not worse. as many have said before, even the worse detox symptoms are short lived and once they pass the person feels better than ever before. that is the sign of true detox - in the end you wouldnt trade it for the world.
so now you mention eating out. hopinso is very intuitive and may have struck on the problem without knowing it. perhaps you simply suffered some food poisoning. in that case, i would say any Iodine you have been supplementing would have made that kind of episode easier to handle and perhaps without it you may have been much more violently ill than you were.
think about it. eating out once is ten times more dangerous than any known level of Iodine supplementation.
I do hope you are feeling better today, the itching problem.
Yes, I agree with you about eating out, I do not normally do it at all because
I do not trust what I purchase. Had no choice yesterday. Next time, I will
just wait until I can get home and prepare my own food.
I am a whimp with heavy detoxing, I went through it with help of NP years ago.
I do feel you and hopinso were correct though. It came on suddenly and is still
hanging around this am. But, nothing like last night as far as the pain.
I guess we sometimes, have a false sense of security over our health. Meaning,
I felt I was very healthy up until last summer, when this breast problem showed
up.
Guess it is onward and upward, keep my focus on the light at the end of the tunnel. I darn sure do not trust doctors...that is another whole story in
my own book of life.
you are both wise and brave to break free of professional doctors of all kinds. until they can clean house and go back to their roots of doing no harm instead of the protection racket they have created, they are not to be trusted in any way other than knowing them personally, if that is even possible.
yep, sounds like it was something you ate - coming on suddenly, pain in the gut, nasty bowels. Iodine makes all of that less severe and easier to handle.
i have a friend who downs a glass of water with Lugols in it after every meal. he never has indigestion problems. he doesnt mess around, either. its either 8 or 16 drops, somewhere in there.
I would not be here on planet earth had I listened to doctors in 1998.
If I had a broken bone, I'd get it set as I'm not as brave as barefoot seems to be, other than that I stay away from them as much as possible. Getting a diagnoses is even iffy with doctor's of today.
yes, that was the most amazing testimony ever on curezone and it was lost in the crash. 99.999% of everyone else are wannabes compared to him. MH is one of my all-time health heroes. i can think of some tough-talking loud mouths on curezone who would have folded like origami in the face of such a situation.
I tend to increase or decrease Lugol's according to how I feel. I have to work and cannot afford to make myself sick, no matter how helpful it might prove to be in the long run. If your instincts say decrease the dosage, then do so. If you feel the salt push will help, do it. I don't mean to sound wishy-washy, but we have to trust our instincts when it comes to this kind of therapy. The good thing about this is even with very small doses we are helping ourselves. Whether you take one drop or twenty, use your judgement and take what you can tolerate without pain or discomfort. I firmly believe its better to moderate and adjust your doses rather than forcing yourself to suffer and then give up too soon.
This is good you posted your experience, because it may help me when I get my first bottle of Lugols soon.
Do you think it could have been stones of somekind..they can be painful to pass and lots of times, many get flushed out at once when you are doing cleanses, etc.?
I have not done any cleanses as of yet. Only the Iodine.
I do not know if I passed any stones, but do not think so.
This was more like gastric upset to the max. In fact, my small intestines and
colon are very tender at this moment. The BM's have stopped but not the constant
burping and generally feeling uncomfortable this am. Gas has seemed to pass, but
even that was very painful to pass. Boy, this is more detail than I ever thought
I'd ever be posting on a forum!!
I'm just going to not take Lugols today and keep meals light and drink plenty
of chamomile tea. If I had some aloe vera juice, I'd be drinking it today.
Hopefully, tomorrow I will have gotten through this little situation. Although, last night, it didnt feel like a little situation.
Since I started learning how to regain lost healh 5 years ago, and having gone thru various (at the start of raw foods, the worse detox I've ever experienced) detoxes, and healing events, imo what you had was a detox episode. I wouldn't be afraid of it, and while unpleasant and scary, I would continue on for just a day or two more..see what happens. If you can't stand it then back off, but at the first sign of major detox, try to go another day. Backing off detox is ok though, and gives your body a rest, then you can always go back to it.
I probably have lucked out in doing the parasite cleanse first, before I start the Lugols. You might try doing the parasite cleanse first, then adding back in the iodine.
You might also try doing some enemas. They are very good in helping along the detox, and you can do 3 or 4 of them at a time. When I first went raw, I did a series of them, almost daily for the first couple months, then less as time went on.
while i agree with the gist of your post, if this was a quick onset after having eaten out, it was the food. Iodine has done nothing but improve my gut. it is also a good tonic for food poisoning.
remember, if one can handle a little Iodine well, then it is easy to up the amount without too much difficulty. certainly the Iodine will not hurt you.
look at the dosage for KI in the event of a radiological emergency:
infants newborn to one month dose is 16mg of KI which is equal to about 10mg of iodine. 2 drops of Lugols or one iodoral contains 12.5mg of iodine, over half of which is in the form of KI. these are doses which are safe for newborns, people. NEWBORNS! daily doses!
people should be giving their children iodine. they need it. its worth an extra 17 IQ points to their mental abilities. thats practically an entire standard of deviation. in fact, the studies show that in the last couple of decades, the performance of our children have gone down a full standard of deviation. the IQ tests have had to be adjusted downward so that the average person will still score 100. the word idiot, which used to be a technical medical term, means lack of iodine. lack of iodine causes cretenism. in eastern europe, children taunt slow kids by saying, did you forget your iodine?
the dose for children age 3-12 is 65mg of KI. that contains about 45mg of pure iodine. 8 drops of Lugols is 50mg of iodine. that is what i give my 15yo daughter. daily.
In 19th and early 20th century medicine and psychology, an "idiot" was a person with a very severe mental retardation or a very low IQ level, as a sufferer of cretinism, defining idiots as people whose IQ were below 20 (with a standard deviation of 16);
In current medical classification, these people are now said to have profound mental retardation, and the word "idiot" is no longer used as a scientific term.
Iodine deficiency disorders are of great concern because they have a brutal impact on up to a quarter of the world’s population, however fortunately it is one of the easiest of the most common deficiencies to control. Iodine deficiency disorders manifest in several forms, depending on the time of onset. When a fetus is deprived, it often results in cretenism or mental retardation. Children without Iodine often suffer from retarded physical growth and intellectual development, as well as from goitre. Adults suffer from goitre and sometimes stillbirth or spontaneous abortion in pregnant women. Those outcomes that are visible, such as goitre and cretenism, are easily detected clinically and are use diagnostically for IDD. The subtler effects that come from deficiencies, such as slightly enlarged thyroid gland, hindered psychological development, stillbirths, and spontaneous abortions are less easily detected or attributed to IDD.
i declare that the population of the US that has subclinical Iodine deficiency is in the 90 percentile range. add to that fluoride, mercury and lead and what do you get?
Someone's got it in for me, they're planting stories in the press
Whoever it is I wish they'd cut it out but when they will I can only guess.
They say I shot a man named Gray and took his wife to Italy,
She inherited a million bucks and when she died it came to me.
I can't help it if I'm lucky.
People see me all the time and they just can't remember how to act
Their minds are filled with big ideas, images and distorted facts.
Even you, yesterday you had to ask me where it was at,
I couldn't believe after all these years, you didn't know me better than that
Sweet lady.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your mouth,
Blowing down the backroads headin' south.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth,
You're an idiot, babe.
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe.
I ran into the fortune-teller, who said beware of lightning that might strike
I haven't known peace and quiet for so long I can't remember what it's like.
There's a lone soldier on the cross, smoke pourin' out of a boxcar door,
You didn't know it, you didn't think it could be done, in the final end he won the wars
After losin' every battle.
I woke up on the roadside, daydreamin' 'bout the way things sometimes are
Visions of your chestnut mare shoot through my head and are makin' me see stars.
You hurt the ones that I love best and cover up the truth with lies.
One day you'll be in the ditch, flies buzzin' around your eyes,
Blood on your saddle.
Idiot wind, blowing through the flowers on your tomb,
Blowing through the curtains in your room.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth,
You're an idiot, babe.
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe.
It was gravity which pulled us down and destiny which broke us apart
You tamed the lion in my cage but it just wasn't enough to change my heart.
Now everything's a little upside down, as a matter of fact the wheels have stopped,
What's good is bad, what's bad is good, you'll find out when you reach the top
You're on the bottom.
I noticed at the ceremony, your corrupt ways had finally made you blind
I can't remember your face anymore, your mouth has changed, your eyes
don't look into mine.
The priest wore black on the seventh day and sat stone-faced while the building
burned.
I waited for you on the running boards, near the cypress trees, while the springtime
turned Slowly into autumn.
Idiot wind, blowing like a circle around my skull,
From the Grand Coulee Dam to the Capitol.
Idiot wind, blowing every time you move your teeth,
You're an idiot, babe.
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe.
I can't feel you anymore, I can't even touch the books you've read
Every time I crawl past your door, I been wishin' I was somebody else instead.
Down the highway, down the tracks, down the road to ecstasy,
I followed you beneath the stars, hounded by your memory
And all your ragin' glory.
I been double-crossed now for the very last time and now I'm finally free,
I kissed goodbye the howling beast on the borderline which separated you from me.
You'll never know the hurt I suffered nor the pain I rise above,
And I'll never know the same about you, your holiness or your kind of love,
And it makes me feel so sorry.
Idiot wind, blowing through the buttons of our coats,
Blowing through the letters that we wrote.
Idiot wind, blowing through the dust upon our shelves,
We're idiots, babe.
It's a wonder we can even feed ourselves.
I have felt really bad this afternoon again. Headache, small intestinal pain, also some pain around the ovary on left side. Very tired.
With that being said, I have been under huge amounts of stress for last year and half, so this may be the problem pushing the detoxing situation. Just dont know at this point.
I did go get some Aloe Vera juice to help with my stomach, gas etc. Seemed to help the stomach and indigestion feelings but not the pains.
Will leave off the iodine, orally until tomorrow. May still paint the problem
breast tonight.
' have felt really bad this afternoon again. Headache, small intestinal pain, also some pain around the ovary on left side.'
Have you considered taking Standard Process's Okra pepsin? It's helped many of us with detox reactions...it's designed to clear out the small intestine (particularly mucous accumulation).