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A few days ago I forgot and took a healthy dose of Collagen Peptides which are very high in arginine and became achy like I was going to come down with a cold sore. As soon as I realized this I took a healthy dose of monolaurin and it seemed to subside really well.
Anyway I got to wondering if there might be any value to mixing the two together and if maybe the arginine in the collagen might attract the herpes virus and get the monolaurin to kill it better than just taking monolaurin alone; similar to the way ants avoid rat poison but will gobble it up readily when it is mixed with sugar.
Has anybody ever tried this; or am I going to be the first? Seems I have to heat the monolaurin to get it to dissolve and then add the collagen peptides after it has cooled a bit. It tastes pretty bad. I'm still trying to nail down how much to experiment with. One gram of monolaurin per tablespoon of collagen peptides seems a little strong so I doubled the amount of collagen peptides today.
I hope this works! I would really like to be able to take Collagen. It is supposed to be very good for you, especially for athletes; and I've never been able to take very much of it without getting a cold sore outbreak!- Re: Mix Arginine & Monolaurin to Bai... surfsteve
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This is a reply to # 2,404,450Too early to tell anything, plus I missed taking it yesterday.
While I was mixing it up the day before, I decided that it might be a good idea to try putting some on my skin. As an experiment I only put it on half my face but it felt so good I soon put it on both sides. Thinking it would be a good idea to put some in a spray bottle I looked for one but the only one I could find was full of some magnesium oil that I made. Rather than empty it out I just added my collagen peptide and monolaurin solution to it. Been spraying it all over my body several times a day. Truly amazing.
Been thinking of going totally off supplements so I will probably stop taking it internally unless I need the monolaurin for if I think I'm coming down with a cold sore but that only happens around once a year anymore, so unless I feel like provoking the dormant virus in order to draw it out and kill it I will probably be leaving it alone and this may be my last comment on the thread.
Have gone back to a fresh food diet lately after realizing that once I started eating a few canned greens I got lazy and added more and more canned vegetables and then fish to my diet to the point I was eating mostly canned food. Enough! Only fresh vegetables and frozen wild caught salmon ( due to cost) for me!
I do recommend monolaurin for cold sores. Has worked very well for me but adding it to collagen seems a bit like pouring salt on a wound.
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This is a reply to # 2,404,711Been totally off supplements for a few months now and a few days ago I tried a couple scoops of collagen peptides and sure enough I could sense my first outbreak symptoms coming on in several months within less than a day. As soon as that happened I took a half dozen monolauren capsules and by morning it seemed to subside. Read that vitamin c also helps so I started taking camu camu powder which really isn't a supplement so I'm going to keep taking it and try the collagen once more to see if I can take it without any symptoms. Thinking maybe of trying the monolaurin as a prevention like in my first post to see of that works too. Sometimes I get tired of reading comments that collagen will not contribute to an outbreak when I am certain it does. At least for me anyway...- Re: Mix Arginine & Monolaurin to Bai... surfsteve
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This is a reply to # 2,410,284I've been taking two huge scoops of collagen peptides and swallowing 4 monolauren capsules with it several times a day for a several days now and feeling great with no signs of a cold sore erupting. I'm thinking I may have killed off the virus and can taper down on the monolauren. I've also started taking betaine HCL a few days ago so that may have something to do with it. I'm thinking it's time to quit taking the monolauren for a while and see if I can continue to take the collagen without getting a cold sore and the aches and body pains that come along with it. I did notice that my joints felt fantastic ever since the first day I started taking betaine HCL. I think it's because the hydrochloric acid in my stomach is much stronger, enabling me do digest collagen a lot better. Maybe that means that there is less for the virus to consume and everything is working together in harmony. I've also notice my skin is the best it's ever been. It is nearly Acne free and the age lines in my face from being 60 years old have faded. So much in fact that I've noticed white lines that have never seen the light of day coming out. I feel like I need to get them tanned to match the rest of my face but I'm in no hurry, as I see them as a marker of huge and rapid improvement. Something is definitely working and I feel I am on the right track!
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This is a reply to # 2,410,724After my last post I did a google search on betaine hcl and herpes and found one person that said this
Quote: ...worked hard at correcting PH issues, totally changed my lifestyle (this was in 1986) In the years since then outbreaks have faded except during stressful times (stress causes more acid PH) and are easily corrected. I added betaine HCL as a digestive aid and my outbreaks suddenly ceased altogether.
https://www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1146359
Maybe I have stumbled onto something and the betaine hcl will work just as good as the monolauren. Definitely going to quit the monolauren for a while, while still taking large doses of collagen peptides and betaine hcl, though I will go back on the monolauren at the first hint of an outbreak coming on...
WISH ME LUCK and like Trump says "well see how it goes"! Don't want to get my hopes up too much but I got a really good feeling about this!- Re: Mix Arginine & Monolaurin to Bai... surfsteve
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This is a reply to # 2,410,729Betaine HCL so far has been a miracle for me. Even a whole tablespoon mixed in a glass of water doesn't seem to bother me. Yet I'm sure if I drank a glass of apple cider vinegar I would be seriously hurting from it. The apple cider vinegar has a PH of 5 but a tablespoon of Betaine HCL in a glass of water has a PH of around 1 and doesn't bother me, only giving me a warm feeling which I don't mind.
I just can't figure out how I am able to tolerate that much acid. In fact I seem to thrive on it.
PH of 5 is the same PH as vinegar
PH of 4 is ten times more acid than 5
PH of 3 is 100 times more acid than 5
PH of 2 is 1000 times more acid than 5
PH of 1 is 10,000 times more acid than 5, or the PH of vinegar!
That is seriously acid!
It must not be the amount of acid, but the type of acid, as far as tolerating it goes. Vinegar is a different type of acid than stomach acid but Betaine HCL is the exact same kind.
I've read that calcium is used by the pancreas to neutralize the acid in your stomach. Otherwise it would burn a hole in your small intestines. I'm thinking that the aches and pains I had before I started taking betaine HCL were from too much calcium built up where it didn't belong and that my body used that excess calcium in places it didn't belong to buffer all the excess HCL. Seems like once it is all used up that my body could take calcium from my bones and in places it belongs! Hopefully I'll be able to tell when I've reached that point. I suppose I could just start taking extra calcium but that sounds like a stupid idea and at that point it just makes sense to cut down on the HCL instead. I still have one small area in my back that's been hurting ever since I was a kid. Once that's gone I intend to cut way back on the HCL or maybe sooner if I stop getting results. It could be a different problem, that betaine HCL wont cure!
Besides aches and pains I've noticed a lot of other remarkable health benefits from taking it. The tartar on my teeth is gone. My skin has cleared up immensely. I've also started taking loads of collagen for that too; which I could never take before, because whenever I did I would get a cold and bad cold sores, presumably from all the arginine. Viruses feed on arginine. I guess the trick is for the body to use it before the viruses get their chance to use it first.
The side effects from taking collagen seem to be totally gone since I started taking HCL. At first I tried taking monolauren along with the collagen to avoid colds and cold sores. And it actually worked pretty good. Then I thought about it and felt, that maybe I wasn't digesting all the protein from the collagen and all the meat I been eating and that it would be a good idea to take something to help with that. I ordered the betaine HCL on a whim for just that purpose. I had no idea that so many other health problems would be eliminated before I started taking it; but it makes sense. Even the best diet is only as good as your digestion. Fixing my digestion (I didn't even know there was anything wrong with it.) has fixed a whole bunch of other problems that I had no idea were even related to it.- Re: Mix Arginine & Monolaurin to Bai... surfsteve
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This is a reply to # 2,410,787As a test this morning I ate a quarter jar of peanut butter. Before I started taking betaine HCL, even a small amount on the end of a spoon would give me a cold sore. I intend to post back in a few days and let you guys know what happened. I still have plenty of monolauren on hand and intend on taking it at the first sign of any potential breakout.
Wish me luck!- Re: Mix Arginine & Monolaurin to Bai... surfsteve
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This is a reply to # 2,410,788So far no breakouts. Been eating tons of high agrinine foods and just about finished off that jar of peanut butter. Planning on buying some peanuts and other kinds of nuts next time I go to the store.- Re: Mix Arginine & Monolaurin to Bai... surfsteve
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I think the betaine hcl has gotten me to start digesting food, especially ones high in arginine, breaking them down and using them before the virus gets a chance to do it before me. I've quit taking betaine hcl a few weeks ago and haven't had monolauren since I reported it on my last post. Also been eating tons of high arginine foods. I am on my 5th jar of peanut butter since I reported starting back eating it after giving it up for 20 years and still no breakouts! I doubt that I am cured but I don't totally dismiss the possibility. I have my monolaurin and betaine hcl standing by to take at the first sign of a break out. Or any virus or illness for that matter!
I believe the betaine HCL has given my body a jump start and now my body is making enough of it's own HCl and that I no longer require it. I still plan on taking it once in a while 'cause I think it helps dissolve excess calcium in my body but due to the fact that I was taking up to two tablespoons a day I think I over did it and a few weeks ago I started taking a finely powdered bone meal supplement. I've noticed a calming effect from the bone meal powder and a feeling of well being that was totally unexpected. The same day my bone meal powder came my calcium orotate arrived and I thought the effect was from that but after experimenting I was surprised to discover the expensive calcium orotate was doing nothing for me and it was all due to the bone meal powder!
I don't believe I am cured but I do believe that I am totally on the right track and have achieved success!
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