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This is a reply to # 2,389,807The Thundervolt Body Tester is based entirely upon documented scientific facts. I quote three scientists (among the 12 on my website) who did done extensive research on characteristics of electrical charge levels inside people.
In the 1930s, a Russian scientist named Georges Lakhovsky demonstrated that the membranes inside a cell exhibited inductance, capacitance, and resistance properties. He found that applying an electrical waveform to plants and human structures would rebound into a beneficial effect. His findings gave me a basis for designing the Body Tester.
In the 1970s, Dr. Albert Szent-Györgyi, MD, Ph.D., and a Nobel Prize winner, wrote a thesis on internal human electrical charge levels. In that paper, he said, "Every person has a unique life force," or what he called "the human sub-atomic ocean of electrical charges.” The Body Tester's operation is based upon his medical thesis.
in the 1990s, Dr. William F. Cathcart, MD, made two statements about massive electron donation into patients and their effects:
“What we are doing with [a supplement] is throwing [it] away for the electrons carried by [it]. In other words, we are driving trillions of negatively charged electrons into a diseased patient, neutralizing the positively charged free radicals. Incidentally, this treatment also violently energizes white cells so they destroy any existing viruses immediately. This phenomenon is only activated when a threshold level [of] electrons is reached, which suddenly obliterates the free radicals." Our Body Tester measures the electrical threshold level inside a human body.
The existence of dangerous free radicals in humans is part of the reason the Body Tester was created. Here's what Dr. Cathcart said about free radicals:
"When free radicals, which lack electrons, are surrounded by a concentration of [electrons], the free radicals cease to exist. This is just basic chemistry. It always works.”
Cathcart's threshold level of electrons is commonly called "chi,", Prana, life force, or perhaps Radiant Energy. This is the force the Body Tester detects and numerically reveals to the user. It is an accurate, scientific, and repeatable method. Many of my customers around the globe have consistently verified its validity. If the testing is done before and after a zap session, the resultant number should increase. This device does not function on frequencies and is a separate unit from the Thundervolt Zapper. It is quick and easy to do and inexpensive; only $49.95. No one else in the industry has one available for retail sale.
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- beware Thundervolt Zapper lies jaguar57
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This is a reply to # 2,389,807
Lies from https://zapper-zap.com
Lie #1:
“A Thundervolt zapper is a low-voltage electronic device used to destroy human pathogens [parasites, fungi, molds, viruses, bacteria, toxins, and worms].”
www.dragonfly75.com/eng/thiel.html
Thunderbolt is another variation of the Clark Zapper and Dr Thiel did a study of Clark Zappers on patients with infections and parasites and concluded that it definitely did not kill pathogens.
Lie #2:
“Our zapper kills free radicals. Thundervolt Zappers use a special “hunter-killer circuit” to find and kill free radicals.
This is where chemtrails end up when they fall out of the sky-in your lungs! Thundervolt’s can remove the resultant free radicals.
A free radical is an atom or group of atoms that is missing one or more electrons.”
Science says the body already has a nice system to take care of free radicals and that is the use of antioxidants (mostly vitamins C, E, beta-carotene) which donate free electrons to free radicals to neutralize them.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3249911/
“An antioxidant is a molecule stable enough to donate an electron to a rampaging free radical and neutralize it, thus reducing its capacity to damage.”
http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/antiox.html
“To prevent free radical damage the body has a defense system of antioxidants. Although there are several enzyme systems within the body that scavenge free radicals, the principle micronutrient antioxidants are vitamin E, beta-carotene, and vitamin C. Additionally, selenium, a trace metal that is required for proper function of one of the body's antioxidant enzyme systems, is sometimes included in this category. The body cannot manufacture these micronutrients so they must be supplied in the diet.
Endurance exercise can increase oxygen utilization from 10 to 20 times over the resting state. This greatly increases the generation of free radicals”
The body fights free radicals with antioxidants. Adding more electrons may generate more free radicals since they can be made by adding or subtracting an electron.
Actually studies show that applying direct current to the body creates more free radicals, not diminish them.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7841663
“Sperm subjected to direct electric stimulation in vitro exhibited a significant twofold decrease in percent motility and percent viability.
These studies indicate that in vitro and in vivo electrical stimulation generate reactive oxygen species and affect SOD activity, which in part are responsible for decreased sperm motion and viability.” [“reactive oxygen species” is a type of free radical]
Notice that report is talking about direct current. Clark Zappers and similar units output direct current switched on and off at the output frequency. Robert Beck said that direct current “wrecks the blood” which is why his blood electrifier output alternating current to avoid that problem of free radical generation.
Free Radicals in Chemistry and Biology by Milan Lazar
“Electrolytic Generation of Free Radicals
At the heterolytic dissociation of the molecule two ions are formed with opposite charges. If a direct electric current passes through the system, anions move towards the positive electrode-anode, whereas cations move to the negative electrode-cathode. At the anode, anions are oxidized so that they transmit the electron to the electrode and are transformed to radicals. At the cathode, cations accept the electrons and are reduced to radicals. Electrolysis of potassium acetate in water is one of the best-known electrode reactions. Acetate anions are oxidized there to acetoxy radicals.”
Lie #3:
“Our device originates from seven MDs, three Ph.D.s, and two D.Scs.”
Ha! They list both Robert Beck and Hulda Clark although Beck said that Hulda Clark Zappers don’t work. None of the people listed ever said that a Zapper adds electrons to the body which takes care of free radicals.
Lie #4:
“When our customers use a Thundervolt zapper, they intake a stream of electrical charges, called electrons, into their body. This results in an increase of electrical energy within that individual. Using our simple, quick and safe Body Tester, one can find out their personal level of body strength.”
There is no scientific proof of their claims for their Zapper and Body Tester.
Lie #5:
“Thundervolt’s are particularly useful for women. The criss-cross exchange of outputs upon the second and third zaps puts a wide variety of waveforms across the chest area between the handholds. A great deal of medical literature suggests that this can (1) prevent breast cancer, (2) lung cancer, or (3) clean parasites out of breast milk before an infant consumes it. All three are important issues for women.”
There is no supporting medical literature for this wild claim.
Lie # 6:
“A Thundervolt zapper, with its capacity to insert alternate waveforms into the female chest attributes [breasts], can destroy free radicals, toxins or poisons before they have time to cause individual cell destruction or reach concentrated levels.”
Wow! Now he also includes toxins and poisons that his zapper can neutralize as well as free radicals. This bullshit pile is getting larger and larger. But this doesn’t surprise me because everyone who follows in Hulda Clarks footsteps are pathological liars and scam artists.
Lie #7:
“Thundervolt zappers use isolation transformers with a DC (direct current) output. To receive a harmful shock from a Thundervolt powered by wall voltage is simply not possible.”
The lie here is that the transformer they use provides sufficient protection but it doesn’t. All medical equipment is required by the FDA to have two isolation transformers in case the first one shorts out due to overload or a lightning strike. Theirs only has one. This is why all good electromedicine units that utilize electrodes on the patient uses batteries as their power source to avoid the risk that transformers pose. When lightning goes into a houses electrical wiring it can jump across the one isolation transformer and across the Thundervolt circuitry to the user.
CONCLUSION
The main premise of Thunderbolt is that it’s a donor of electrons to neutralize free radicals and that the electric current kills pathogens. Both these ideas are completely wrong as I have shown here. Buyer Beware of another Clark scam artist.
To take care of free radicals take your vitamins (but not in mega-doses). To take care of virus and bacteria use a Beck Blood Electrifier such as BioElectric’s Microbe Electrifier. To take care of parasites investigate natural cures or go to a parasitologist and take the worm killing drugs. I know of no electromedicine device being sold that is effective.- Thundervolt Zapper truth and facts antidrug2
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This is a reply to # 2,389,818Dear jaguar57;
You have attacked my product as being a scam and destructively saying my statements are lies. I offer a forceful defense.
#1 The Thundervolt zapper is nothing like a Clark zapper. Clark only had one energy output; we have two. We have a mixture of energies and frequencies that sandwich pathogens between dual forces. Clark units had no footpads; we do. And we have a Body Tester. Clark did not. Clark zappers were so successful that today they still have a reputation; if she were a fraud and scam or untruthful she would not still be popular today.
#2 The body does use antioxidants (substances that donate electrons) to fight pathogens and disease, but that only goes so far. The diseases Ebola, AIDS, and cancer are three conditions where the body is overwhelmed by free radical attack and cannot get enough antioxidants to mount a defense. Zapping introduces trillions of electrons into a human system; much more than even mega-dosing on supplements could ever do. Oral vitamin C and E will not be effective against many viral diseases. In 30 years of practice, Dr. Cathcart used tens of thousands of grams of vitamin C, but not in oral doses. He nearly always used an IVC. In my book, Dr. Klenner did the same, with life-saving results. Klenner cured a woman in a coma with deadly encephalitis in 48 hours and all he gave her was an IVC of 200 grams of vitamin C. One can achieve that level of electron donation when zapping, but not orally.
#3 Thundervolts use square waves, not direct current. The frequencies are too high for the body to accept this energy as DC.
If Thundervolts don't donate electrons to the user, then why does a Body Tester test done before and after record a rise in numbers? The Body Tester documents changes in electrical energy, and this is in watts, the unit of electrical power. If the level of watts in the body rises, there must be an input of electrical charges.
#4 The proof of Body Tester validity is that it is based on two of the most widely accepted laws of electronic physics; Ohm's Law and Watts' Law. No scientific authority will ever challenge those laws.
#5 Breast Cancer and lung cancer are both accelerated by free radicals. Any cancer emits floods of free radicals. If free radical production is nullified, as Dr. Cathcart said, cancer may be attenuated. As for breast milk, this substance has been traditionally pasteurized to eliminate bacteria. If zapping can kill the bacteria before baby drinks it, then the zapping is beneficial.
#6 You say: Everyone who follows in Hulda Clark 's footsteps are pathological liars and scam artists.
Hulda Clark and her zappers remain one of the best known names and products world-wide. If she and her units were false and not effective, her following would have died out long ago. But 24 years later, she is well-known and so are her zappers.
I have many testimonies and case histories in my files about real people who recovered from serious conditions with my products. Some tell me they owe their lives to Thundervolts. When they call me on the phone personally and tell me these things, they are not lies.
#7 You neatly forgot to read the Q&A link on my website about Thundervolt transformers and safety. In addition to the dual-isolation transformer, the circuit is fused. Additionally, the integrated circuits inside a Thundervolt will not stand anywhere near the voltage of wall current. They cannot short out. Their tiny wiring would simply evaporate and prevent any
harmful voltage from ever reaching the user.
You also forgot that my zapper has an EMF Blocker to prevent "dirty power" from reaching the user through the output terminals. We are the only ones in the industry who have this accessory.
For those who still believe that AC powered zappers are dangerous, we offer a 12 volt unit, powered by a customer's
supplied 12 volt battery. No transformer is used.
Oh, by the way, it's a Thundervolt, not a Thunderbolt.
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This is a reply to # 2,389,822#1 Yours is just another variation of the Clark Zapper as it outputs switched DC just like hers did. Direct Current produces free radicals.
#2 Clark Zappers are popular just as false religion is popular. That is no proof of effectiveness. Dr Thiel proved that they don’t kill microbes. Wise men learn from others mistakes, normal men learn from their own mistakes, and fools learn from no one. Most of the populace are fools and you Clarkies prey on them because they are too inept to realize when they are being scammed.
#3 You still stick to your lie that your device provides electrons to neutralize free radicals although I have shown scientific proof that direct current applied to the body increases the number of free radicals in the body.
#4 You say the Thunderbolt frequencies are too high for the body to accept this energy as DC. I say baloney. No matter what the frequency the current will be directional to the body. Even though it is switched DC it is still DC.
#5 A change in body voltage as detected by the Body Tester is no proof that the body has had its free radicals neutralized by electrons from Thundervolt. That is just an assumption you are making.
#6 You say the Body Tester is valid because it is based on two laws of physics but I say correlation does not prove causation. Reading an increased body voltage does not mean now there are less free radicals. It may mean that now there are more free radicals. Or it may mean any number of other things.
#7 Buyer Beware
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,389,797BTW, I like your tester, it shows that ParaZapper works exceptionally well.
->that there is not 1 objective proof (nothing) that the electric signal produced by a zapper manages to kill parasites (worms) in a human body, and considering that electrodes are put on the palms of the hands and on the soles of the feet, and how current spreads, it most likely disturbs some of these parasites (worms) and make them move to others parts of the body where there is less current (for example, in the head area)
->that after all the reasonable critics of these devices and total lack of objective proof that they help to get rid of parasites (worms), "paralier" (and others similar sellers) never gives up, continues to spread lies/misinterpretations on forums and youtube, even use the name of great people like Royal Rife (even if their tech is different) to improve the image of his devices and to sell more of his (inefficient, useless) products.
->that there is a never ending flow of infected desperate people, who are ignorant, and have no others alternative to try anyway, who are intrigued by this high tech alternative mysterious supra hyper intergalactic futuristic technology, so let them buy the crap, why not, maybe after being scammed a few times, it can help cure their gullibility ?
(you know me, i am a good friend of "paramoney")
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This is a reply to # 2,391,973#1 You are right to an extent. However, there is not 1 objective proof (nothing) that the electric signal produced by a zapper does not or can not manage to kill parasites (worms) in a human body,
While not everyone has success, we have seen and heard of successes.
That aside, we do not claim that ParaZapper is for killing worms. Only someone who would think that only worms can be parasites. Bacteria, protozoa, and fungi can be parasites and parazapper can and does kill them ( at least in vitro and very likely in vivo).
>- considering that electrodes are put on the palms of the hands and on the soles of the feet, and how current spreads, it most likely disturbs some of these parasites (worms) and make them move to others parts of the body where there is less current (for example, in the head area)
That is obviously more likely with cheap or not well designed zappers. We have not heard many complaints from our customers in that respect. The main complaint that we hear is that we can not produce them fast enough.
>- never gives up, continues to spread
Since you have never tried a ParaZapper, you are completely uninformed in regards to this. First of all, I am a very experienced zapper user, not just a seller. For me, the zapper has helped with dental infections and abscesses, severe sepsis, killed a Tapeworm that had been present for most of my life, stopped the spreading bulls-eye rash of a tick bite, helped stop the spread and necrosis associated with a spider bite. Colds and flu usually just go away after using a zapper. What more could I ask? It has saved me thousands in medical bills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvjvmwUPzWc
>- ->that there is a never ending flow of infected desperate people, who are ignorant, and have no others alternative to try anyway, who are intrigued by this high tech alternative mysterious supra hyper intergalactic futuristic technology,
Oh! You just simply left out the rock solid money back guarantee.
>- even use the name of great people like Royal Rife
No, we simply state that we use Rife frequencies from the CAFL. 100 percent true.
So, please provide any proof or even any indication that a Rife machine is any better than a ParaZapper MY-3.
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This is a reply to # 2,392,454[quote]
there is not 1 objective proof (nothing) that the electric signal produced by a zapper does not or can not manage to kill parasites (worms) in a human body,
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as there is not 1 objective proof (nothing) that with my (powerful) visualization i can kill all parasites (worms) in a human body, remotely, at any distance, as long as you pay me for my (incredible) "para" services.
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That is obviously more likely with cheap or not well designed zappers.
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you showed a drawing made by yourself, where the electric signal produced by a zapper (with electrodes put on the soles of the feet and on the palms of the hands) does not travel in the neck/head areas... So what is it, yes or no ? and how can we verify that objectively ?
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killed a Tapeworm that had been present for most of my life
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another unverifiable claim, that's all you have to show...
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No, we simply state that we use Rife frequencies from the CAFL.
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which are most likely not frequencies used by Royal Rife, since as i understand, he was using a high (mhz) frequency and a low (khz) frequency... and you can't confirm that the source providing these frequencies is guenuine...
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So, please provide any proof or even any indication that a Rife machine is any better than a ParaZapper MY-3
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you are a good example of what a charlatan is, all you can do is reverse the roles and use communication techniques to trick people... You claim something, you provide a proof, (which must be objectively observable/measurable, reproductible by others in similar conditions, and i am talking about empirical experiments/measures here, so no excuses)Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,393,738Dear John,
All that you do is to prove your lack of knowledge and understanding on the topic.
>- not 1 objective proof
Why would we need this proof as we do not make this claim? We only claim that our current products can and do kill microbes such as bacteria, protozoa, and fungi in water. We have demonstrated this ability and can prove it in a court of law. So, there!
>- showed a drawing made by yourself,
Actually not. That drawing was made by a customer.
>- another unverifiable claim, that's all you have to show
Actually, it can be legally verified in court. There are actually verification that the parasite existed before zapping and there was no evidence of its existence after zapping through standard parasite analysis. Is it possible that the disappearance was coincidental? Of course but that is not provable. The statement is only a representation of my own personal experience. You can not claim this experience because you never tried it.
>- frequencies used by Royal Rife,
Yes, many, but not all of the frequencies are from Royal Rife and John Crane who worked together to try making an improved pad type Rife machine.
>- reverse the roles and use communication techniques to trick
No, just making a plain and simple statement.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,393,775[quote]
We only claim that our current products can and do kill microbes such as bacteria, protozoa, and fungi in water.
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can you please explain how the experiment was made ? (voltage / max current / duty cycle / frequency used, electrodes used, what kind of water)
what microbes did it kill ? how do you know ? how much current and time was necessary ?
and where can we verify this statement ? can you provide a video, some before / during / after photos, some lab analysis before / after ? why there is no others experiments about that ?
thanks,
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This is a reply to # 2,430,939Yes, we have a video but do not intend to release it because it contains what we feel may be proprietary information.
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This is a reply to # 2,431,056staying vague and mysterious is good for marketing, a smart approach to influence more readers to become buyers, and since your main goal is apparently to sell sell sell, this makes sense. ;-)
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This is a reply to # 2,431,139I am go glad that in your ultimate wisdom, that you can see this.
However, you need your eyes checked.
First, I have not posted this video as a result of personal humility. It has nothing to do with marketing as it would be far more effective as a marketing tool if it was posted. It is extremely convincing.
Second, I am not doing this to make money but actually to let people know that they are being deceived by the medical industry. The use of electricity as a cure has been around since the 1750's, actually even earlier. It has experienced nearly continuous suppression since then.
If many people had these, there would be a lot less concern and far fewer lives lost from the current Coronavirus Pandemic IMHO.
The problem is that while the Thiel study definitely shows better results for those who use zappers, it is very outdated and needs to be done again with the newer improved zappers.
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This is a reply to # 2,431,152Why? What is your evidence of this?
From what I have seen over the last 20 years is that the parasite cleanse is beneficial. While I do design, build, and sell zappers, I have no financial involvement in cleanses.
