Epsom Salt, My Turn *with pictures* 
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I disappeared for a few weeks, with the aim of trying that cultivation of positivity and envisioning being cured method. Not saying that it failed, more so that I failed to effectively carry it out. The past month or so has been difficult managing with my depression. I've been unable to be as consistent as I was in all the things I've been doing as compared to during October. I dropped the method because I'm quite encouraged by this soaking method, and I want this over with as soon as possible. I do think what I was doing could actually work, but I mean what am I trying to prove if there's a better method to try.
I started the Epsom Salt soak two days ago in the evening. I then did it again the next morning and decided I'll see what it's like doing it twice a day, in the morning and evening. It's a bit of a trial, I've varied the amount/concentration of the solution, you guys and lily can tell me if you think I'm doing too much in that it can be harmful to my health.
The first two soaks I hadn't any coconut oil, but acquired some yesterday evening so applied that after my most recent soak and will be doing so from here on.
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- Day 1 InSearchOfBrotherhd
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I'm not gonna post here every picture as I had done during that last thread I made. Instead I will post a few, and post the link to all the pictures I'd taken that session.
Link to all pictures
//www.curezone.org/ig/f.asp?f=3348
This is the amount of salt I roughly used, I think I poured two of those in. Or was it four? I don't remember but the next couple pics shows it all.
I hope you're able to gather the size of the bowl I used. If you compare it to the size of my hand in the pic it should help.
An example of what my lips are like before the soak and a picture after the soak. If you're noticing that my lips look different in some of the pics, there's like a 20 min time difference, I must've brushed my teeth or wet my lips or something.
One important point
Notice that I'm using a plastic container. You're not supposed to use metal utensils when doing this. For instance you can't stir with a metal spoon because it will ionise the solution and have an effect. I didn't have any wooden spoons so I'm using these plastic ones, closing the lid and shaking the water and salt in order to dissolve it.
It may not be the case, but for those that have had limited success with this method, this may be a consideration.
- Day 2 InSearchOfBrotherhd
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This is a reply to # 2,348,193Morning soak.
All pics //www.curezone.org/ig/f.asp?f=3350
This time a smaller plastic container, and I think significantly higher concentration; actually that's without a doubt. Smaller container because doing this thing is quite awkward. I've been lying on my bed on a pillow holding my phone in front of me watching Family Guy (took someone else's idea) with the container to my face. I have to get my chin in too.
I also peeled my lips after this sesh. I was meeting friends afterwards so gotta do what you gotta do.
Before
After
Soon after peeling
A little bit after peeling
There are a couple pics in there with the water dripping from my chin, which I just thought look pretty cool.
- Day 2 Evening InSearchOfBrotherhd
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So the evening. Not many pictures.
//www.curezone.org/ig/f.asp?f=3351
I don't really remember whether this was the before, or taken a little after the soak with time to dry. I think it was before, not glossy with coconut oil
After the soak
With coconut oil (probably)
Still got to buy them small plastic containers to carry the coconut oil around during the day, as lily was saying.
- Day 2 Evening InSearchOfBrotherhd
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- Re: Epsom Salt, My Turn *with pictur... sirpreis
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This is a reply to # 2,348,193Thanks for the "blog". I've started probably about a week ago. I soak once a day, in the evening. Really not sure about the amount of epsom salt. She should have used gram/mililiter amounts.. :) I am actually using more than you are. I used like 10 small teaspoons for a bowl a little bigger than yours (which is metal, I might switch to a ceramik / plastic one from now on).
Anyway, good luck! :)- Re: Epsom Salt, My Turn *with pictur... InSearchOfBrotherhd
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This is a reply to # 2,348,203Wow that sounds like a lot aha. Noticed any changes?
Good luck to you too! Hopefully we can beat this thing! :D- Re: Epsom Salt, My Turn *with pictur... sirpreis
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This is a reply to # 2,348,258Yea, it was probably a little too much. Went back to 5 small tea spoons.
Not noticing anything just yet. Not too optimistic about it, but we'll see. :)
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- Not posting pics every day InSearchOfBrotherhd
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This is a reply to # 2,348,193I think it's kind of pointless to post pictures every day, when there's not much to show. Instead I am posting my daily pics to cure zone and you can view them if you wish, here is the link //www.curezone.org/ig/f.asp?f=3347
I will selectively choose days to post now, when I think there is a change to show or it's worth posting. I will also make an update every 5th day to show progress, which I will try to get better pictures for. The first 5th day will be tomorrow.
Just to restate incase it wasn't clear. My procedure is soaking twice a day 30 mins or a little more each time, after I wake and before I go to bed. I don't use any metal utensils, in fact now I stir with my finger (lol). For two days I've been using 1 heaped teaspoon of salt in the container you've seen. I apply coconut oil afterwards and when I've acquired very small containers will be doing so throughout the day as I need. I'm also thinking to wet and reapply with coconut oil a few times in the first hour after soaking in the morning session and perhaps in the hour before the evening session.
To briefly comment on how it's been thus far. The Epsom Salt seems to make my lips more swollen. It also gives the affected skin a certain look immediately afterwards as if something is happening. Apart from that we'll have to wait and see.
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- Update InSearchOfBrotherhd
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This is a reply to # 2,348,193Hey there, still alive.
Still doing Epsom Salt. I'm moving on to a different phase now, where I let the skin on my lips build up. I've continuously exfoliated the skin without allowing it to build until now. The idea is that I've kinda let the Epsom Salt do its work on the raw skin, and now I'm seeing if its actually had any effect by observing any change in the cycle length or the way it builds.
So I've actually been doing this for 19 days then. Any change? Truthfully, unfortunately no, not yet. I do see the Epsom Salt is certainly doing something, as in there is clearly a reaction. But what it is doing I have no idea. It might simply be aggravating my lips. But it's doing something, and if I do really have a fungal infection underlying this, then I'm still hopeful and as optimistic as before.
I've upped my usage of coconut oil since the beginning. And I'll say I've noticed some things about it. Coconut oil doesn't really moisturise like other products. What's handy about it doing this thing is that it actually seems to DRY the lips pretty quickly, which is welcomed as the skin is prone to fall off getting it so wet doing this soak.
And also, I'm getting the feeling that what it seems to be doing is trap all moisture. Which leads me to the idea that actually coconut oil acts more like lip seal/plaster, the kind of thing that people on here have been talking about.
So actually it's helping me to keep the skin on.
So I'm on my second day of letting skin build up. I'll let you know how it goes if there's any changes.- Re: Update sirpreis
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This is a reply to # 2,350,053Thanks for the update.
I'm 4 weeks into soaking once a day (30 minutes at night), but it looks like it's not doing anything really. I don't peel them after soaking, just those parts that already came off during the soak. I do use scissors to cut of the most yellow and already detached parts during the day, and the thickest parts usually come off when applying Bag Balm (I do use that about 3-4 times per day, and coconut oil also 3-4 times per day).
So I will probably be stopping the soaks, as I don't think they are doing anything.- Try this InSearchOfBrotherhd
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That's unfortunate to hear man.
But hey, listen up. Just try this. Don't stop just yet. Over the next few days I want you to cultivate enormous positivity. Firstly envision the pain and upset this condition has caused you, remember, look back, look at pictures, think about how this has affected your quality life, experience with love, quality of life, imagine the anger this has caused you, the upset, the misery. Be genuine with yourself, speak out loud, and reflect on the pain of exfoliative cheilitis.
Then imagine yourself free of this condition. Imagine yourself waking up tomorrow free of this condition forever! Imagine waking up to lips perfect! As they once were! Look at a picture, and pay attention to the bits which are as perfect as your entire lips used to be, and imagine waking tomorrow your entire lips looking like that! Imagine the freedom of never having to think about this thing again.
Just try this. Give yourself a half hour window, when no ones home if you live with anyone to speak freely out loud, and do this tomorrow, and the next day, and a couple more days after that. But just try this tomorrow. The placebo effect isn't made up. It indicates something true about our nature and how we work.
Give yourself enough time so that you get the point where you're truly moved by emotion, firstly frustration or worse, and then by true joy and happiness at the prospect and real reality that is perfect lips, that is triumph. Then don't think about it, other than to tell yourself the cells of your body know what to do whilst imagining waking with those perfect lips, if you do think about it.
Nothing to lose bro!- Re: Try this Gdizzle
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This is a reply to # 2,350,170Hey guys,
I just gunna jump in here. Im not 100 % but i'm pretty sure that soaking with Epsom Salts works by creating a saline solution which fungus etc can not inhabit.
However from my understanding its quite critical to have an exact measurement (from google) of one cup of water to ½ teaspoon of salt . ( Epsom Salt my be stronger than normal salt in this respect i'm nt sure)
for the body/lips to properly absorb/ not reject the Epsom Salt soak i think its very important to hit this level of salt dilution.
Hope this help, if i can find where i read all this suff i will post but i think it might have even been on the original Epsom Salt post.
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- Correct concentration InSearchOfBrotherhd
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You're right. I just did some research and there's one study which states that it found 1% Epsom Salt dilution to be best for absorption, or 1g per 100ml of water. You would be right then as a cup is 236.588ml, and so as the ratio is 1:1, you'd need ~2.4g of Epsom Salt per half cup. http://www.epsomsaltcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/report_on_absorption_of_magnesium_sulfate.pdf
The container I've been using for the past week or more is about 210ml probably, so I'm going to have to use about 2 to 2.2g of salt. In teaspoons this is roughly a half, though different websites vary, I suppose because they have different sized teaspoons. I'm going to go with a half anyway because it should be close enough.
Now, it's funny because I've been using way more than that amount, especially recently. If a teaspoon is 4g, as some sites say (I've ordered a scale btw which should arrive tomorrow), then for a week or more I've been using 16g, which in a 210ml container is 8 times the optimal concentration. So I've been soaking in 8% Epsom Salt saline solution ^^'. Now the study doesn't say at what point above this ideal concentration the effects are significantly affected, but it does simply say that above the optimal inadequate effects are observed.
Sooo,, this could be a reason as to why myself and sirpreis haven't yet benefited. The only thing to consider would be that lips most likely absorb differently to the regular skin of the body, which is what the study is actually commenting on. I'll try anyway.
Fingers crossed! Thanks for the heads uo Gdizzle!
- Correct concentration InSearchOfBrotherhd
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This is a reply to # 2,350,170You are wasting your own time with this lip soaking rubbish.
I remember you saying a few months ago that you had partly been diagnosed with chron's disease. You dismissed that and decided to focus on soaking your lips in salt water.
It is painful to watch you completely waste your time with this and try to convince other people to do to same. It doesn't work.- Re: Try this InSearchOfBrotherhd
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This is a reply to # 2,350,187I'm not so confident in the doctor's diagnosis of my having Crohn's. They diagnosed me because I had a condition which people with Crohn's can typically get, but it also frequently occurs in people without. When it was first suggested, my doctor told me he didn't think I did have it. Then when I was sent to see another doctor, they didn't even seem to properly investigate, in fact they assumed 'I knew' that I had Crohn's. Even when I had ultrasound scans and such things 'seemed normal'. But I'm gonna follow up on it. It's possible that I have something going on down there, since I tend to have a problem with gas.
I know I shouldn't be negligent about illnesses like Crohn's disease and Ulcerative Colitis, because when they act, it can drastically upend your life. And also just the fact it could be the root of this problem. But I must wait for appointments, and rescheduled appointments, and rescheduled rescheduled appointments... And I gotta do something in the meantime.
I have a question for you, though. Earlier on you came out and said you'd actually seen noticeable improvements in the condition of your lips. Now truth is I've seen none whatsoever so far for myself. What were the actual changes specifically? Because if something happened, you must've been doing something right.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,350,364I'm currently trying those probiotics than lbinns was/is able to "control" his EC with.
I have to add that my EC got a whole lot better about 1.5 years ago. It was so much better for the past 1.5 years that I would have been totally fine to live with it for the rest of my life. I am now trying to do whatever I did when that happened, but I'm not sure what did the trick. It might just have been sun (which we don't get at the moment), a coincidence or something else.
I'm now taking an anti allergy medication that I was also using at the time.
On top of that, I have been trying Bag Balm as a constant moisturizer...
Not sure what will come next, maybe just trying to manage it until the summer to see if lots of sun puts it back into a dormant state.
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