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Hi. I'm new here. I found this site by googling fasting information.
I am nearing the end of day six on what I thought was a Water Fast but after reading through the forums here, I'm beginning to doubt myself. Until today, I'd drink black tea and coffee. I thought that would be good as they are diuretics and recommended in the old lemonade fast, which is my only frame of reference for fasting. I tried to cut out the coffee today and suffered for it; headaches :( But I am still taking vitamins and prescription medication I need for my anxiety disorder. I take a very low dose of Celexa and Xanax as needed. I've been taking more Xanax than usual as I'm feeling cranky, and my husband is annoyed by my negative attitude. I take ibuprofen and Excedrin for the headache. I also took Tylenol PM one night because my legs hurt so much they kept me awake. I'm so afraid I won't be able to do this without these drugs. I drink water and seltzer water. Not sure if that matters.
Are these things (the vitamins and the meds) going to ruin my fast? I started the fast for a lot of reasons, one of them being that I quit smoking within the last year and feel like I could use a good system cleanse. I'm female, 5'3", today I weighed 176 lb. I'm pretty sure I'll have the fat reserves to continue this for a while... as long as I can muster the willpower to do it.
Also, I'd like to know how many days until I adjust enough to go back to the gym. I'd like to work at least in a half hour on the treadmill, even if I'm just walking fast every other day. Right now, I don't feel up to going to the gym; I've been really tired. Also, I have a weekly commitment volunteering at a wildlife rescue in the ICU. I can't miss out on that, but I don't want to break the fast for just one day a week.
Any advise you might have is greatly appreciated. I haven't done a long fast since 2009. I can't compare that fast to this one because external circumstances drove it, and my anxiety disorder motivated it because I wasn't medicated at that time. This year I've done a few three or five-day fasts. I want to be successful with a long one.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 2,282,293Nightlark,
You are doing everything wrong. Please educate yourself first about fasting with water only by reading posts on this forum and by reading books on fasting.
Everything you are doing is horrendous and you should stop fasting. You are taking too many poisons which are extremely dangerous during a fast and even when you are not fasting.
I am sorry to be so hard, but you need to be prepared first and then fast again.
Here is my recommendation. Start drinking freshly squeezed juices from fruits and vegetables starting tomorrow for a week and during that period take drugs you absolutely need. Then eat organic plant based whole foods at least for a month. During this period have a plan to get off all medications slowly till you are able to do without them. You can exercise during this period, which will be good for losing weight and detox.
After this you may want to do a kidney cleanse, colon cleanse, liver flush, then a fast with water only, yes, water only, nothing else. You will see the amazing benefits from it. It will be a long process.
I would like Desert Lily to comment on this post as well.
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This is a reply to # 2,282,301Thank you for your thoughts.
I haven't stopped fasting, but I did cut down on supplements and drugs. But I added low-calorie Gatorade. I guess that means this isn't a Water Fast anymore, but I still think it is some type of fast. I don't want to stop fasting; I think I've been through the worst. I'm starting to feel better and more energized. I'm not losing a ton of weight, but I feel that if I stick this out as long as I can, more will come off soon.
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Nightlark,
You are most welcome to do what you think is best for you. However, I disagree with your approach. You can fast on nature made foods vs. to Gatorade and toxic drugs, but choice is yours. You will get in starvation mode faster than you think. Your decisions to fast this way is stemming from some deep fear which only you can work on. If not, please tell us what is the reason you are choosing this path?
Would you please read this chapter from Dr. Shelton's book with utmost urgency and attention. You have nothing lose but gain.
http://soilandhealth.org/wp-content/uploads/02/0201hyglibcat/020127shelton.III/020127.ch34.htm
If you can get in touch with a fasting practioner that would be great.
Take care of yourself.
Archus
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”I was surprised by the effectiveness of it, and I wasn’t hungry.”
Hello Nightlark,
... if I did so many pills regularly I would be a wreck. Sorry to be harsh, but you kind of sound like you are having difficulty navigating your body, life and moods.
In my opinion: take time to get off drugs and explain to your partner that there will be such a period of adjustment and he better be supportive, instead of awaiting good mood on your side at that time. Further, your fast is going to bring other challenges and periods of mixed emotions, and if you are not ready to face these, it may be better to do a juice-fast. Juice fast may be a door to later water fast.
Also doing meditation classes or silence retreat, as in vipassana, may help you see trough everyday-life fog and find new solutions for yourself. I believe that the Abraham Hicks materials may also give new spiritual opening to you and/ or your husband.
As Archus pointed out, it does not make sense to continue flooding your system with chemicals while trying to remove them at the same time. Your use of Tylenol ... there are people with serious pain, that endure it, if you can't tolerate a little pain from your activities, as in gym etc, you may not be fit right now to withstand the challenges of a water fast.
I know you are not a man, but please "man up". You need to be able to face the negative side of life without pills in order to achieve physical improvement and emotional/spiritual benefits. This is not a condescending message. I had a friend who acted exactly like you, and I know what I am talking about.
BTW seltzer water irritates the stomach. You may want to switch to lemon water or herbal infused-water or basil/mint/parsley water (that you can even prepare yourself in 2 min). Distilled water is best when fasting, and for many - like you - is super helpful to detox drugs outside of fasting too.
Good luck
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Qualifying condescending and trivializing statements with "Sorry to be so harsh" doesn't make them any less hurtful. Yes, I'm human, just like **you**
I understand you think you know that I'm just like your friend who acted like me and that makes you an expert or something, but I don't buy it. You just sound like an assh0le.
Here's a tip; if you want to be helpful, try to maybe not be insulting and misogynistic. Start there, maybe. Then someone might listen to you. Until then, maybe stop telling yourself you are helping people.- Re: too many drugs, too much relianc... archus
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This is a reply to # 2,283,247Nightlark,
I think you over reacted here. DL has helped us all on this forum and we are all grateful for her service.
We are all trying to help you. And we can be civil towards each other. I feel bad now that I invited her to give her opinion to your post.
Peace.
Archus
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”I was surprised by the effectiveness of it, and I wasn’t hungry.”
Archus, thank you for your message!
I gave an input after I saw your invite, indeed.
I usually try to stay away, when too much different emotions transpire from someone's message.
It is a tedious work for me to get into emotions, and a unrewarding one.
I was risen to " be a master of my negative feelings" and to deal with them on my own terms. So it is really difficult for me to attend to someone else' emotional discomfort ... while not been paid for it, Lol. Honestly, I would only do it now if I was paid.
The story with the girl who was taking pills and was my friend is real. Unfortunately, for her my efforts to comfort her were never good enough and she wanted more and more; ... while, interestingly enough, she was not capable to give emotional support in return. One more reason now for me to stray from such situations.
I wish to all the very best evening,
DL
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Once again I am sorry I got you in this mess. I also did not feel that your message was aggressive or condescending at all. My goal was to bring you in to have another opinion and join hands to help the poster who really needs help.
I have learned that I do not get swayed from my target, which is to help anyone and everyone, when sometimes you do get jabbed by negativity, but you take in a stride and move on.
I so strongly believe, if you think about it deeply, people are in a state of mind so low because their body is toxic and thus the mind, that it is very easy to be irritated and angered. And we can only empathize with them. Truly, if they fast they can become clean physically and mentally. This can only be experienced if you get to a point of self realization.
So you continue to do what you do so well.
Peace be with us all.
Archus
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”I was surprised by the effectiveness of it, and I wasn’t hungry.”
Good point, Archus! Very true. Don't worry about that please, I would not have ever thought that you got me in this mess.
I miss-judged on the point of a probable hyper-sensitivity on the part of Nightlark, I should have known better. Anti-anxiety medication, especially in combination with long-term caffeine or other stimulants can produce that too. Nightlark, if you are reading this message, the brominated oils in Gatorade are harmful for your body and mind, as well. Not to mention all the processed stuff in it.
I agree with sman1109 further in the thread, you would benefit from Iodine drops on the skin, even while fasting. Bromine does the totally opposite, prevents different systems from functioning well.
I wish fasting was established as a weekly ritual in the West. It will enable all to see clearer with their mind-eye.
I agree with you that when the body is toxic, the mind is also foggy, irritable and impeded from fine-discerning. I tend to forget it, though.
I have a totally unrelated Q to you, Archus. I have read a major part of Sheldon's work but I can't seem to find where he talks about joint healing - did he ever write, actually, about joints? Did you ever read about joints in his work?
Cheers,
DL
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I understand your upset. I understand that I had to choose the wording better; the tone that you take as condescending is a trial to give as much information, in as little wording as possible.
Please, accept my apology.
I am not misogynistic, though. I deeply care about women and women's rights. I wrote a long comment since I believed I could be helpful. I would have not written it, if I knew you would not find it useful.
As to the expert part, you like "biting" back. It is OK, am not here to show what I am an expert on, but to learn further, while many ppl find my input right.
Best of luck,
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”I was surprised by the effectiveness of it, and I wasn’t hungry.”
I fasted for an anxiety disorder and it certainly almost if not cured it for that period of time. It was a good 6 months or so but I gave in to my cravings at the end, relapsed and my problems came back which I still deal with now. I think with the Water Fast you'd probably have to slowly change your diet after you finish it, and make convictions towards healthy eating which I couldn't unfortunately.
My fast consisted mostly of a small meal in the morning, and water throughout the day. Maybe a little juice sometimes in the middle of the day. I lost 50 pounds, and my panic attacks, anxiety, and Depression went away towards the latter months. The hard part was not submitting to those cravings, the temptations for unhealthy eating are all around us its hard to ignore.
I guess my advice would be not to repeat my mistakes, the hardest part is resisting the cravings because in the beginning they are bad. Once you get over the beginning it is easier, but still hard in a way because its easy to slip up again being complacent. Fasting requires a discipline, a lifestyle choice to healthy eating afterwards. So I'd say find another vice to replace cravings, something healthy maybe as you said volunteering, if that makes you happy. I may try it again one day, but right now I'm getting some benefits with Iodine and learning more about that detox method.
One caveat is I didn't do it on anti depressant medication, I'm not sure how that will affect you as those pharmaceuticals work on the pleasure chemicals in the brain. Fasting resets those chemicals to a lower baseline, and those pills increase those pleasure chemicals, so your results may vary.
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