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My Iodine level is through the roof and I am not sure what would bring Iodine level down. I haven't been consuming any Iodine supplements and the last Lugol's solution I consumed was back in September 2014 (one drop). I really need to bring down my iodine level and was wondering if anybody knew an antidote or a treatment. I would sincerely appreciate your response.- Re: Any Antidote Or Treatment For Io... Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 2,245,521fluoride can of course be used for toxicity symptoms of Iodine (blood test?), but I doubt it will help your symptoms. furthermore; one drop of Iodine in september cannot possibly cause a toxicity half a year later.
Iodine may cause problems with hashimotos as selenium is needed for the thyroid enzymes. So both needs to be taken with that condition.
Since no symptoms are listed of your preseumably Iodine toxicity; this is a former post of yours;
//www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=2235951#i
Please fill in.
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Those were blood test results from December and end of January. This time, I got a hair test that shows high level of Iodine and selenium. Both of them are at least 10 times the highest value on the reference range.
I read some posts stating that high selenium/iodine levels in the hair means Iodine and selenium aren't being used properly at the thyroid receptors. This can be partially true as my thyroid symptoms have been shifting more and more towards hypo (declining fT3, fT4, and increasing TSH). I feel fatigued all the time as well, and I think it's largely thyroid related.
Maybe what I really have is Iodine metabolism dysfunction, not toxicity.
- Re: Any Antidote Or Treatment For Io... Ginagirl
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This is a reply to # 2,245,541"I read some posts stating that high selenium/iodine levels in the hair means Iodine and selenium aren't being used properly at the thyroid receptors."
Yes, my first thought was that the metabilism was out of order. Where to go from there.. I dont know, but what I did was to take the Barnes test. It showed a very low body temperature in my case.
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This is a reply to # 2,245,550That's very interesting! My body temperature has been pretty low as well. Where did you go from there? Something is inhibiting Iodine and selenium from being used. The answer to this question remains mystery.
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I took a "ton" of iodine, plus selenium and other supporting vitamins and minerals. Within a year I managed to raise my temperature from 36 C to 37 C, from then on I could take down one by the other; ailments I had. included adrenal fatigue.
Alot of reading ahead, I spent some hundred hours:) You may start with the RR`ed posts at this forum. Others will chime in when you share more of your present symptoms.
The enzymes doesnt work very well at low temperatures. The thyroid is much about enzymes. vitamin B, magnesium, zinc all have a say in this.
Since you have mentioned hair loss as one symptom;
http://hypothyroidmom.com/skin-signs-of-thyroid-disease/
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This is a reply to # 2,245,556Thanks for the response. I will start reading Iodine protocols. Could you share what supplements and which brands you took specifically?
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- Re: Any Antidote Or Treatment For Io... glaxony
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This is a reply to # 2,245,541i am a person who has a thyroid issue that has been preventing my thyroid from using the Iodine adequately and properly and the reason i believe so is because my fingers and toes are still cold after taking it for 10 years and bumping up to really high levels several times...
when I took a glandular formula to support my thyroid, it started making me very hyper to take a dose of iodine
so i stopped taking it for a while, but then i started going back into the Depression and feeling tired and not wanting to get out of bed in the morning, so i started back on a very low dose of iodine, and when i did, i experienced dark urine for a few days
that surprised me because i was only off it for a few weeks
perhaps there something else is going on and you are feeling tired because you stopped taking iodine…and i agree with gina that your temperature is important~ mine is now running a little too high on iodine, after 40 years of always being too low~ but fingers and toes are still cold most of the time
a doctor once tested me and told me to stop taking Iodine because i was in a Wolf Chaikoff state, so i lowered the dose
the last time my thyroid got tested they said it was normal
but i know something is wrong with it because i have cold fingers and toes most of the time and my body temperature is haywire and i have a swollen lymph gland in my neck and the skin on my neck itches like crazy and i have a chronic cough and pain in my breast which responds to bugleweed, which are symptoms of a specific kind of thyroid cancer, and for calming a hyperthyroid symptoms…
what i am saying is that you cannot trust their tests because they don't know what normal is, and it is like the blind leading the blind through a pop up labyrinth obstacle course for them to try and figure out what is going on, especially when they are testing people who aren't afraid to experiment on themselves and self medicate
fact is they are saying my thyroid tests are normal and i have major issues with my thyroid
if you accept their word for it they will eventually tell you that you cannot be cured and offer to make you comfortable…. been there, said NO Thank you, got myself better…
it is good that you are trying to figure this out instead of putting your life in the hands of doctors who do not believe in curing, because they make their money from prescribing, and if people start getting cured, they will be out of business
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This is a reply to # 2,245,521biggest crock of crap i think has ever been posted here.
iodine levels off the charts? no way. no bloody way.
next.- concur glaxony
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They gave me 100MLs of it intravenously before a cat scan recently and told me to drink a lot of water for the rest of the day to wash it out of my system. It is water soluble. Water soluble nutrients must be taken on a daily basis and replenished because they do not build up in the system. It is a crock.- Re: concur Changexpert
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This is a reply to # 2,245,661If you guys read the comments I've posted, you would have caught that I made a mistake in interpreting the hair test data. It seems like what I have is an Iodine metabolism dysfuction, not toxicity. Iodine and selenium are not being metabolized in the body and keeps excreting out via hair. This would explain why my FT3 and FT4 levels have been going down while TSH has been increasing gradually. Any suggestions for this condition?
Although hair test is not very accurate, I did Iodine skin test to see if my body really needs iodine or not. The iodine spot remained on my skin for longer than 24 hour. Also, when I take iodine supplements, I feel extremely tired and jittery, maybe because I already have enough iodine. Is there anyway I can help my body to utilize iodine in the body? I would appreciate your insight.- Re: concur glaxony
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This is a reply to # 2,245,670That makes a lot more sense than Iodine toxicity. It is your high selenium levels that are dangerous. Nobody should ever take more than 1200 MICROgrams of Selenium per day, and if you have a diet that is high in selenium (brazil nuts, brewers yeast, and the like), you should not even take that much, because taking over 1200 mcg of selenium per day results in SELENIUM Toxicity. Selenium toxicity will make your hair fall, your nails brittle and your skin dry. And those are just the physical symptoms. I do not have the emotional/mental symptoms memorized. And they probably vary from person to person. I think this forum should have a large warning sign that says NEVER take more than 1200 mcgs of selenium per day, or at the very least~ do so at your own risk!!!
I also wonder if a lot of people who are worried about Hashimotos because of falling hair are actually taking too much selenium. One one had people are taking Iodine by the gram and it would be easy for them to get confused and do the same with selenium…But selenium builds up in the system and stays. Iodine does not. That is why you can take so much more Iodine without harming yourself. Selenium is another matter entirely.
Have you looked into methods of chelating selenium or studied selenium toxicity???Advertisement
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- Re: concur Changexpert
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This is a reply to # 2,245,683I have not seen the study for selenium chelation. Could you share the link?
I have never taken selenium more than 400 mcg/day, and I usually supplemented 200 mcg/day for 4 months. My serum selenium level was still within the reference range, although on the higher end. Is it possible for selenium to compete with Iodine for thyroid formation? Something is inhibiting Iodine and selenium to be metabolized to form necessary thyroid, and I have no clue what that is.
FWIW, my MCV is slightly elevated at 98 fL (high end rr 97 fL) and my RBC, hemoglobin, and platelet counts have been decreasing. My serum iron level was normal in December, but might have dropped a little since then (not sure what my current level is). Ferritin level was well above 300 because I used to take ferrous furmarate for 2 months. My RBC folate level and B12 levels were all within the reference range.
There is some kind of anemia going on, but I do not know which kind of anemia. I am going to schedule an appointment with a hematologist. If you have any ideas, please let me know.- Re: concur glaxony
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This is a reply to # 2,245,688One one hand you have said,
"Those were blood test results from December and end of January. This time, I got a hair test that shows high level of Iodine and selenium. Both of them are at least 10 times the highest value on the reference range."
On the other hand, you have said,
"I have never taken selenium more than 400 mcg/day, and I usually supplemented 200 mcg/day for 4 months. My serum selenium level was still within the reference range, although on the higher end."
I do mineral analysis for people. Ten times the highest value on the reference range is not within the reference range. So what you are saying makes no sense.
I learned about selenium toxicity by reading my Merck Manual. I have no link to furnish you.
I suggest you do some research on your own. You will have to provide consistent information to get realistic help from people here.
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- Re: concur Changexpert
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This is a reply to # 2,245,768You have to learn how to read. One says serum level, and the other result is from hair test. Stop trying to find flaws in people's posting.
- Re: concur glaxony
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This is a reply to # 2,245,891I am not trying to find flaws. I am trying to understand what you are talking about so I can offer you some more helpful information.
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This is a reply to # 2,245,670I wonder if this might be related to a "symporter" defect? If so, then high doses of vitamin c will correct it and enable the Iodine to enter the cells the way its supposed to. Sorry I don't have any links but info on symporter problems is out there with some more research. (Happened to me back when....)
- Re: concur Changexpert
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This is a reply to # 2,245,715Wow never even heard of this. I will look into this. Could severe traumas (two big surgeries) cause this mutation to happen? AFAIK, gene mutation can be acquired after birth. I am almost certain my parents have it too as they all share similar health issues that I've experienced recently.
One question, when I take megadoses of vitamin C, I get teeth sensitivity. I am taking Ester C, not the liposomal C. Would liposomal C mitigate this issue?- Re: concur Stalactite
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This is a reply to # 2,245,727Since you know your hypothyroidism isn't caused by low cortisol or a nutritional deficiency in iodine, selenium, B12, or iron, maybe you should just go the pharmaceutical route and take T3 (as a temporary means to kick out the high RT3). This should bring your metabolism back up and running. I also took a laundry list of supplements: iodine, selenium, vitamin B12, iron, megadoses of Vitamin C, etc., but when everything checked out to be in range (or even over the range due to all the supplementation) and I was STILL hypothyroid, I knew I needed to do something else. So after the long wait, I decided to take synthetic T3 at a very low dose. Three weeks later, I was able to go off it. For the first time in years, I felt alive and warm again! My hair stopped falling out, and even my monthly became lighter (they used to be extremely heavy). I wondered why I hadn't done this earlier (my reason was because at the time, I believed the natural route would be enough) and how much hair I could've spared if I had done it earlier. So if you are suffering badly and it is drastically affecting your quality of life, perhaps consider foregoing the natural-cures-only mindset. Also, you mentioned your immune system is less than ideal (low neutrophil and WBC). You'll have to address that too since sadly, normalizing thyroid function doesn't always result in a normalized immune system (I'm no longer hypo but I still have fungal issues). Mushrooms like shiitake, maitake, and reishi may help modulate immune function but if you have a bad candida problem, then that is probably not enough (it wasn't enough for me). Colostrum is said to help boost the immune system but you probably have to take it in the fresh, whole food form and in a quantity much greater than what is found in tiny capsules in order to see any benefit. I tried a bottle of powdered colostrum caps and unfortunately, it didn't do much for me in terms of eradicating the yeasties. I don't know if you have candida or something else but (assuming that you don't have any kidney issues and aren't eating an excessive amount of protein), your foamy urine could be some sort of fungal or bacterial infection. Did you ever get that tested?Advertisement
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- Re: concur Changexpert
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This is a reply to # 2,245,750I am seriously considering taking T3 only medication. Are you taking Cytomel? My urine has been foamy since I was a child, but I do consume a lot of meat. I went to an urologist, but he thought it was not a big deal because I consume a lot of protein. I've tried D-Mannose for UTI infection. Unfortunately, that did not have any effect on me. Since D-Mannose is only effective for E-Coli, what I have may be non E-Coli infection. I will see if there's a good urologist beside the one I already saw. Thanks for the input!
- Re: concur Stalactite
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This is a reply to # 2,245,901Not anymore, but when I was on it, I took it at a very low dose (6.25 mcg 2x a day). It is important that you start low to see how your body reacts to it, then work your way up if need be. I personally didn't have to since my RT3 ratio wasn't too bad to begin with.
You should join this support group if you haven't already:
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/RT3-Adrenals/info
I don't remember what they did to determine when and how to increase the dose but the info should be under the group files. They'll also help you out if you need any guidance.
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Hulda Clark Cleanses
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Being jittery and tired seems contradictory to me. When I am jittery I have a lot of energy. When I am tired I do not. Once again, what you are saying makes no sense. Jittery says you need adrenal support. Tired says you need Iodine. If your thyroid is not functioning properly enough to utilize the Iodine, there are formulas that will kick it into high gear.
But it would be dangerous to make such a recommendation, with al the contradictory information you are giving, so I am not going to tell you what it is, because… if you are jittery, and your thyroid kicks into high gear, the word jittery will pale in comparison to how you will feel once your thyroid glad starts making use of all the iodine. And I am talking very hard hard palpitations that will make you wonder if you are going to have a heart attack, and send you running to the emergency room, and then they will want to remove your thyroid gland because they will think you have graves disease. Are your eyes bugging out of your head???
Another thing you are saying that doesn't make much sense to me is about the Iodine stain staying on your skin for more than 24 hours. I once accidentally got a drop of Iodine on the wall and when I tried to wipe it off, it left a brown stain. But by the next day, it had faded and was nearly invisible. I've never had much faith in the skin test. Iodine fades in a matter of hours for me and I have been taking it for over 10 years. But maybe you have some kind of unique DNA.
Which star blew up and sent your god particle to earth?
- not contradictory ds2
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This is a reply to # 2,245,778Being jittery and tired as the same time is certainly possible and happens to me be alot in the over 6 yrs I've had thyroid issues. The more common phrase is "wired and tired" if that helps.
This person, like the majority of the world, has been brainwashed into believing Iodine is toxic when just the opposite is true. He is just beginning to try and wrap his head around the fact that Iodine is needed. And going thru any type of detox is awful and scary at times (the Iodine detoxing fluoride, bromide, heavy metals...).
When I began this journey, most of my posts probably didn't make much sense since I had BOTH hypo and hyper systems At The Same Time. Most considered me bonkers and had little patience with my ramblings. I thank GOD that people here like Trapper, Ginagirl, Violien, HoW, were kind, and patient, and understanding as well as helpful. I don't believe I would be here today if it weren't for God, these people and iodine/iodide.
So while yes, it's frustrating when someone unjustly criticizes iodine, let's try and remember what we were like before taking iodine. Sure, he may turn out to be another jerk....but let's at least give him a chance:)- Re: not contradictory Edited By Moderator
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This is a reply to # 2,245,874I agree.
You and Trapper may turn out to be jerks but I'm going to give you a chance.
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Hulda Clark Cleanses
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Thanks for the response. Maybe I do have symporter defect, and I was wondering how to take megadose of vitamin C without getting teeth sensitivity. Esther C 3g/day definitely gives me teeth sensitivity. Would liposomal vit C be better?
Being wired but tired is definitely what I felt like when I took iodine. My body would ache and I would have muscle twitching quite frequently, yet I would feel extremely tired. That's what happened when I took Iodine back last year. I may indeed need Iodine and I am not against taking it. For the time being, I am just trying to figure out why Iodine and selenium are all going to hair, instead of being used for thyroid function.
Another piece of information that may be helpful in diagnosing my symptom would be heavy metal toxicity. Mercury, aluminum, and barium levels were very high from hair test, at lest 2-3 times the maximum reference value. Since HM's can interfere with thyroid function, chelating HM's might help.- Re: not contradictory ds2
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This is a reply to # 2,245,894Yes, I'm sure the HM's have a lot to do with it. Much of what you describe are detox symptoms.
Sorry I don't have an answer about liposomal C but hopefully someone else will know (although I have heard good things about it). I can say that I had to titrate up on vit c very slowly cause of digestive problems. I remember one case where a woman had to work up to 9,000mg vit c in order to help symporter defect while for another person only 3 or 4,000mg were needed. We're all different.
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This is a reply to # 2,245,874okay
please insert happy faces and
LOL wherever needed to soften my tone
thanks
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Hulda Clark Cleanses
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I am a naturopath. I take hair samples, send them to a lab, and get a report back on people's mineral levels. The one mineral that is not on the report is Iodine because KI is water soluble and it washes out of the system quickly. That is why you need to take it daily, or at least several times per week. So what you are saying makes no sense, unless you are talking about the radioactive kind of Iodine that causes cancer. How old are you? Where do you live? Have you been exposed to radioactive Iodine somehow?
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