Breaking a fast 
t1ggy
10 y
997
Hi guys,
I'm new to this forum, actually, I'm new to forums!.
I have just recently become more interested in fasting. I have been doing fairly regular slightly extended fasts of between 14 and 20 hours for the last couple of years, mainly from an IF protocol/weight training perspective. My original goal was to try to improve my body composition etc. It did work but I suffered many negative reactions from friends and family about my somewhat gaunt appearance. I have eased off over the last 12 months or so from a caloric deficit perspective and put a few pounds back on.
I am now starting to consider fasting for health reasons and am interested in taking on more extended fasts than what I am used to. I have recently completed a couple of 36 hour fasts with no particular problems.
As my fasts get longer though, one area of concern is what to eat after the fast is over. I keep reading that breaking a fast is at least as important as the fasting itself. Don't get me wrong, I get the logic behind this. It makes some sense. But one thing that does not seem to compute is the suggestion that consuming large quantities of food post-fasting is unhealthy or indeed somehow dangerous. Surely, during the majority period of our species' evolution, it was quite normal to spend several days with nothing at all to eat, only to then successfully manage a kill and gorge oneself silly! I maybe wrong but I cannot see paleolithic man holding back from tucking into his huge fatty steak just because he hadn't completed his 2 days or so of lemon-water or vegetable broth! I just wondered what others' opinions were on this please. And maybe you could let me know if you have had any bad experiences jumping too vigorously back into post-fast eating.
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- Re: Breaking a fast Weedeemer
10 y
1,029
This is a reply to # 2,199,633I just take betaine hcl before eating aftet a fast, because my stomach acid becomes so weak that i can't digest anything. I continue ketogenic regimen after a fast so protein/fat is my choice... just like you made a comparission with a paleolithic man
- Re: Breaking a fast scorpioeyes
10 y
1,077
This is a reply to # 2,199,636paleolithic man lived to be about 33...this was due to a number of factors but point is that we dont, and shouldn't, live like paleolithic man; we are a bit smarter. i wont advise you on how to break your fast as everyone is different but i can tell you that this topic has been exhausted on this forum so all you need to do is search around. i am going to break my fast using juice from organic watermelon, carrot, kale, ginger, and a few other things. good luck
- Re: Breaking a fast Weedeemer
10 y
946
This is a reply to # 2,199,641...sure thing, everyone is different. I can only write from personal experience. ingesting sugars (in a form of juice) drives me mad and i have tendency to gorge in food when insuline strikes :)
- Re: Breaking a fast scorpioeyes
10 y
1,028
This is a reply to # 2,199,642so if you dont break your fast on simple sugars what do you suggest for breaking fast? and what length fast are we talking? i mean, 36 hour fast you could break with probably whatever you want but i am on day 16 water only so anything other than diluted, organic, fresh pressed juice and i would be i serious trouble.
- Re: Breaking a fast Weedeemer
10 y
919
This is a reply to # 2,199,688So, i am not a qualified nutritionost nor a doctor.
- bone broth (made without starchy veggies)
- cooked and well blended spinach (diluted as you like) - very very low in carbs
Maybe add some spices to aid digestion...
- extra virgin coconut oil
- 100% MCT oil
...if you crave "real" food afterwards - than diluted or extra creamy paté or something with that texture (without carbs)
Again: This is from my experience and i really don't want to do any harm to you.- Re: Breaking a fast scorpioeyes
10 y
977
This is a reply to # 2,199,694that's pretty much what i was gonna do on the 2nd day of refeeding. a nice veggie broth with carrots, parsley, onion, garlic, turmeric...maybe a few other goodies.
heat all that up for a bit and strain it and then drink that all day.- Re: Breaking a fast peksi
10 y
969
This is a reply to # 2,199,697This is what i've been asking too. because i don't want to shock my system with sweet fruit after 2 weeks water only.
My suggestion is to boil vegetables and roots until they are soft, then make them into soft mashed soup with blender and start with one tablespoon per hour etc. But I am still not sure if it is too solid or the fiber in it is bad for stomach. Hopefully someone has a comment on this.- Re: Breaking a fast magnesiumoxide
10 y
1,043
This is a reply to # 2,199,880It's too solid. Id advise you to wait till day 4 with this kinda food. go with a very diluted tomato juice.
Something like this:
1st day: very diluted juice. First two hrs: every 30 min 1-2 tablespoons
After this: every hour 1/3 cup
Day 2: tomato juice every 1.5-2 hrs
Day 3: add a little bit of boiled tomatoes to every "meal"
Day 4: what you suggested for day 1, small portions- Re: Breaking a fast magnesiumoxide
10 y
978
This is a reply to # 2,199,882P.S
I've googled carbs in oranges and carrots.
Oranges have 12g/100g and carrots 10g/100g .
I don't believe half of those carbs diffuse into water after being boiled. Also, you won't get any vitamins this way. You'll practically eat boiled paper, err, fiber with some sugar.- Re: Breaking a fast peksi
10 y
1,000
This is a reply to # 2,199,883in my country we have a nutrition database which is maintained by our government and is based on laboratory tests. they show raw carrots contain 5.6% and boiled carrots 5.7% of carbs. but maybe carrots can be different depending on location.
- Re: Breaking a fast Weedeemer
10 y
849
This is a reply to # 2,199,887Just to add some digression:
I think i've read somewhere (currently i'm writing from my phone so can't google effectively) ...so, that boiled potatoes have GL/GI almost like pure sugar. Or even worse... Maybe the same goes for carrots... IDK ...
I don't want to start any fight or trolling. I write because I want someone to explain. :) thanks!- Re: Breaking a fast peksi
10 y
1,021
This is a reply to # 2,199,909Potato has 15.5% of carbs which is quite much to me. Carrots have 5.7% of carbs. Accoring to my source, that seems to be in english as well! So here are the links:
http://www.fineli.fi/food.php?foodid=11511&lang=en
http://www.fineli.fi/food.php?foodid=29229&lang=en
To me it is ok if it is under 6% or so, I am not going for extremes, just skip the sweet stuff, bread and bigger amounts of potatoes or rice.
And those carbs are a lot better than processed White Sugar .
- Re: Breaking a fast Weedeemer
10 y
910
This is a reply to # 2,199,946just came to PC:
ok, i was wrong about carrots
... but, anyway take a look: (potatoes... watermelon)
http:// examined existence . com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/glycemic-index-chart.jpg
(remove blanks) - Re: Breaking a fast magnesiumoxide
10 y
909
This is a reply to # 2,199,946Uhm.. I don't know how to tell you this. But most of these stats don't include fiber as carbs because it's assumed they don't get digested. if they did, you d have around 10 g.
Anyways. It seems, You've already met your decision.- Re: Breaking a fast peksi
10 y
1,055
This is a reply to # 2,199,974No i have not made my decision, sorry for sounding like that. I am happy to get corrections, that is why I am writing here.
Carrot seems to contain 2.2% of dietary fiber. What you said is a new thing to me. Do you have any link on the subject? I googled diabetes site that said you can reduce the fibers from carbs.
- Re: Breaking a fast peksi
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast Weedeemer
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast peksi
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast Weedeemer
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast peksi
10 y
1,000
- Re: Breaking a fast magnesiumoxide
10 y
978
- Re: Breaking a fast magnesiumoxide
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast peksi
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast scorpioeyes
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast Weedeemer
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast scorpioeyes
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast t1ggy
10 y
938
This is a reply to # 2,199,641Yes I agree. We are smarter and can make more educated choices. And if you experienced guys tell me that's what's needed then I am in no position to argue. But I don't understand entirely why the human body did not evolve to adapt if that situation was presented to it so often. Something just doesn't compute. Maybe we rarely went more than a couple of days without food of some sort.
- Re: Breaking a fast scorpioeyes
10 y
1,082
This is a reply to # 2,199,906the human body has obviously not evolved perfectly. people still need glasses, people are born with defects, our ligaments, tendons, and bones are constantly getting injured from simple slips and knocks. point is, evolution isn't perfect. next point is that the paleolithic man had a life expectancy of about 33 years; i am sure this has to do with many many factors but we cant deny that perhaps it had something to do with not properly understanding the digestive system. we're all adults and can make our own decision on how to break our fast but i can tell you that if you even do just a 6 day fast and try to break it with a scoop of peanut butter or deli meat or whatever you are going to be in some real pain. i have made that mistake when i was younger. your body can handle the shock but i think the main point is that we have the knowledge now to break our fasts in ways that are more beneficial to the whole body in the short and long term. personally i am not taking any HCL betaine so that i can digest food nor am i going to eat anything solid for a few day. i am doing a cup of organic, fresh pressed, fruit/veggie juice diluted into 2 gallons of distilled water and drinking that for 2 days. then i may try veggie broth which will be some veggies simmered in water and then filtered thru cheese cloth. after about 4 days i will eat a little banana or tomato or something. this should cause me no gastrointestinal issues at all. yes i will live if i break my fast with solid food and/or high Sugar fruit but i dont want to deal with the pain and shock to my system. good luck.
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- Re: Breaking a fast t1ggy
10 y
858
This is a reply to # 2,199,986Thanks for the info. And I will certainly take heed. I must say though it does put me off somewhat. I'm a frequent gym-goer and more than a little worried about the probable loss of may hard-earned muscle tissue. This has not been a problem for me as yet, as I have only done 40 hours maximum.
- Re: Breaking a fast t1ggy
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast scorpioeyes
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast Weedeemer
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast scorpioeyes
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast magnesiumoxide
10 y
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This is a reply to # 2,199,633If you fast for up to 3 days, you should be fine with breaking your fast however you want. Be it paleo diet super meal or berries or whatever.
The rules you've read of, are actually guidelines for long fasters, so they don't stuff their shut down digestion system with a steak or drink some milk.- Re: Breaking a fast t1ggy
10 y
877
This is a reply to # 2,199,700I see. Great. Thanks for that. Of course this does bring up the whole issue of the progression of physiological fasting reactions. I realise no two people are identical in this regard but apart from the usual signs of ketosis is there anything to look out for that indicate one has passed beyond certain points?
- Re: Breaking a fast Weedeemer
10 y
943
This is a reply to # 2,199,907Again, I can only write from personal experience. I develop some kind of a "dead man's stare" ...and then I know it's the time to break the fast
- Re: Breaking a fast Weedeemer
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast t1ggy
10 y
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- Re: Breaking a fast Weedeemer
10 y
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