Vitamin A + Zinc is the key 
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I likely have allergies causing a zinc deficiency which makes it hard to absorb vitamin A . - With Zinc and Vitamin A daily Im on the way to being cured.
I have had tests done for Celiac ( bloodtest ) and that has come back negative again and again..then it hit me.. - well it might be some of the same foods - but just caused by my grass allergy.
I am 100 procent sure this cures me, it has gotten close a few times over the last few months. take 5000 IU of vitamin A with Zinc (20 or 40mg) in the morning. Try to avoid eating sugar/ high carb as this depletes Zinc. Zinc status must be high at all times so you absorb the vitamin A . ( dont take over 40mg as its the highest the body can take in total) you might get some from your food too.
the way it heals is drastically different from what normally happens..it might take 2 weeks or more for it to get started..imagine levels getting higher and higher in your body. then at one point it will start healing the lips. if its not celiac with you it might be something like it.
so the key is = Vitamin A deficiency either directly or by Zinc deficiency.
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This is a reply to # 2,115,500ec could possibly be a form of contact dermatitis which is triggered by allergies. so people it can be triggered by a allergy then turn into a chronic condition even once the allergen has been taken away... so you could be onto something... what do you mean come close to healing a few times and also how long have you been doing this treatment and are you useing moisturizer or just leaveing lips alone thanks in advance
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,115,506Well I went to a party when I was in healing mode so to speak (ill regret that for a long time)..my diet had been very restricted to yogurt in the morning, meat & salat/bell pepper as lunch and dinner.
The healing was much different, my eyes got bigger (very weird) like a cloud was lifted from my health. and the healing was furious..had i not gone to the party and drinked alcohol drinks and stuff..I would be cured as of now.
I was taking Vitamin A with Zinc daily doing that time..and again left alot out of my diet ( maybe too much) but never the less it was working. Ill try the next month or so to get back to that diet ( which was hard to do) and take the same things..it should cure me eventually.
but things like Celiac, Crohns, allergy etc must be very important in this..and so is the Vitamin A + zinc connection.
dont do anything that may cause you to loose Zinc..i dont have to say it do i haah.
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This is a reply to # 2,115,500No one really seemed to believe the Zinc and Vitamin A deficiency theory so thanks.
Yes, if one has a Zinc deficiency one likely also has a Vitamin A deficiency. I did not know that allergies could cause a Zinc deficiency. I just assumed it was caused by my celiac disease. But, I am allergic to wheat in addition to celiac disease. I have both a Zinc and Vitamin A deficiency.
Do you think applying Red Palm Oil (high in Vitamin A) will absorb in the lips and temporarily heal them while one is building up levels of Zinc and Vitamin A internally? Some people might have the Vitamin deficiencies from organ problems instead of allergies, though. It might harder for those people to absorb these supplements. But, allergies could be another possible cause. Do you eat fat with the Vitamin A supplements? The ingredients of some Vitamin A supplements contain cod liver oil (fat) so that probably helps with absorption.
Just a reminder that Zinc and Copper compete with each other. If you take Zinc supplements, you should also take Copper supplements. There is a certain ratio, but the Zinc supplement needs to be higher than the Copper supplement. So, I just take a Zinc/Copper supplement that already has the right Zinc/Copper ratio.
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This is a reply to # 2,115,601Vitamin A makes it impossible to get yeast infections in the mouth for example. when there is no vitamin A to safeguard you, you get EC..its something like that..i dont think Vitamin A deficiency alone can cause this hell of a condition. its a component that is missing which in turn makes something else develop that shouldnt be able to.
I have had bloodwork done to check for Celiac a few times now ( im sure I have it or serious allergies im not dieting for) so it can be either, they will both damage the small intestine where Zinc is absorbed..no Zinc = no vitamin A gets absorbed.
do you see my point. if you have Celiac, then you like have a Zinc deficiency. Zinc is needed to absorb vitamin A. If you have not enough vitamin A, it cants safeguard your mouth against intruding germs.. and you get E.C eventually. My health took a big step up when my diet was so restricted ( maybe celiac..finally giving the stomach a breather and let it heal so it can absorb the Zinc it needed to help get Vitamin A in the body)
its my theory..I know it sounds weird but my Eyes got bigger..and clearer. and the lips starting healing for real ( you could take a flash light and hold it at an angle and see the new skin all over the lips. my mistake destroyed that..such dump party to go to..when i get to that stage again, ill stay home till its healed. which i should have done in the first place.)
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This is a reply to # 2,115,609I just want to say that I have read quite a few books about celiac disease. The chapters on diagnostic tests describe how many times there are false negative test results. You may or may not have celiac disease. I think my EC started when my disease celiac started. Are you going to have a biopsy endoscopy? Next week, I am having a capsule endoscopy. At least it will check my full small intestine.
Your eyes got bigger? What part of your eyes? Yes, Vitamin A deficiency can cause vision problems, especially night vision. It may explain why I got blurred vision from time to time.
Again, some people may need to fix problem with an organ before they are able to absorb Vitamin A. Zinc is easier to absorb since it is water soluble. That is why I was looking for a temporary fix like Red Palm Oil until an organ problem can be fixed. I might switch from a Vitamin A supplement to a Red Palm Oil Supplement. I think it also lowers you cholesterol. People with a fat malabsorption problem usually have low cholesterol, but mine is higher. However, I am also low on vitamin B5, which can raise cholesterol.
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This is a reply to # 2,115,613I get very tired when i eat bread..like i get knocked out..in 15-30 min im sleeping like a freakin stone..and my stomach seem to get a bit bigger when i eat gluten foods too
if i avoid it, my stomach goes back to it flat self..which to my points towards celiac. I know I have a grass allergy but have never been asked to keep from anything when it comes to diet (which might be my cause actually..as its doing the same damage as celiac kinda..)
just the shape..wider, clearer, the white in the eyes got very white and they looked more wet somehow..whatever is doing that, is what heals the lips. as I at that time was began to see the healing. my body felt ALOT better..and it was like they got what they needed to begin the healing. - that i messed it up and have been eating normally since..is the major reason why im not cured right now..its just been too hard to do that diet again and take it..
so ill go back to the diet and take vitamin A and Zinc. in my head its quite simple
Gluten foods --> chronic low Zinc --> no Vitamin A--> E.C
what do you think? what was that about vitamin b5..whats its role in all of this?
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This is a reply to # 2,115,617I get the bloating, too. When I had to travel to a foreign place one time, all I brought to eat was packaged tuna and fruit. My belly was flat the whole week.
Do you have broken red vessels in your eyes? Those may be permanent, but did they go away while on Vitamin A and Zinc?
I am not sure if you are referring to the gluten-free diet that was hard to stick to? Since I bought substitute rice flour, it is easier to stick to the diet. I usually use rice flour and rice noodles. I found a gluten-free bakery that makes bread that tastes like real italian bread. Most gluten-free bread I tasted is gross. Stay away from tacos at Taco Bell. I thought those were safe until I read the beef and corn tacos shells contain gluten. I can still eat McDonald's fries. Although there is a trace of gluten in them, it is not enough for even sensitive celiacs to get a reaction. I even order fast food burgers by itself and add my gluten-free bun (from bakery) at home.
I just know that vitamin B5 helps moisturize the lips. I will not know if it has a connection unless others here get that vitamin blood test. B1 and B6 also help moisturize the lips.
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This is a reply to # 2,115,621see it gotta be something like that.
it was just that my body seemed in balance, my eyes looked, well, better..healthy..and very clear..I might start out trying glutenfree again..but the radical change was just a diet as i described..very restricted..i wont want anyone else go try it..just like that..but its either my allergy ( grass allergy would include allergy to all grains) but i remember I was taking Zinc + Vitamin A when all this happened. I have taken Zinc before without changes..so Vitamin A is very very important in this.
what have your docs said about Vitamin A? was it because of your celiac or ??
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This is a reply to # 2,115,636It is common to have fat-soluble vitamin deficiencies with celiac so my GI doctor thinks it is probably the cause. My nutritionist recommends 10,000 IU of Vitamin A to patients with a deficiency. At the vitamin store, there was only one 10,000 IU Vitamin A bottles so I bought that one. The rest were 5,000 IU.
Remember that one can have gluten sensitivity without having celiac disease.
I do not know if you red my initial post about Vitamin A deficiency, but Vitamin A is more linked to the issues happening with our lips.- Re: Vitamin A + Zinc is the key #95221
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This is a reply to # 2,115,654so thats what, 3000 mcg? can i take that daily..has your doc said that is alright.
gluten sensitivity..would i end up with Vitamin A deficiency from that?
all i know is that vitamin A is very important with this. I think i have a deficiency of it..im sure of it.- Re: Vitamin A + Zinc is the key longterm
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This is a reply to # 2,115,664I just bought a new multivitamin, which is gluten free. Although the manufacturer of my prior multivitamin states most of their vitamins are gluten free, I read on a forum that it actually is not gluten free. Best way to find a reputable brand is on a celiac disease site. Or get one that specifically states NO wheat in the ingredients. This new multivitamin lists 5,000 IU of Vitamin A. Since it includes 5,000 IU, I just need 5,000 IU more to total 10,000 IU. Once my levels are back to normal, I will need 5,000 IU instead of 10,000 IU. This vitamin also contains 120 mg of zinc and 10 mg of copper so I do not know if I should take additional supplement for zinc/copper.
To convert Vitamin A as retinol:
From IU to mcg: IU * 0.3 = mcg
For example: 5000 IU * 0.3 = 1500 mcg
From mcg to IU: mcg / 0.3 = IU
So, yes I believe 10,000 IU is equivalent to 3,000 mcg. The nutritionist told me to take it daily WHILE I have a Vitamin A deficiency. When my levels are back to normal, I can decrease the dose to 5,000 IU, which is 1500 mcg.
Why don't you at least have a standard blood test for Vitamin A and Zinc now just to know you have a deficiency before your level increases with supplements. I would fast for the blood test so the Vitamin A from food or supplements will not show a higher level of Vitamin A circulating in your blood than you have...at least that is what my hematologist to me to do whenever I took a blood test for iron.
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