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Here is my battle with giardia for 15 months. It started after consuming the water from a faulty cooler in my workplace in India. I had all the symptoms after a week; watery diarrhea, farts, urgency and the eggy burps. I attributed all this to extreme stress at workplace. I put off visiting the doctor as my job was taking up most of my time. Eventually my health started affecting my efficiency at work. This went on for six months, I still had diarrhea and the other symptoms, but I had not lost any weight yet.I thought that it was nothing serious and will resolve on its own, It did not. After two more months, I got dysentery type diarrhea lost 3 kg weight. All this seriously affected my performance at workplace, so got fired. After getting fired I thought I’ll give a chance for my body to heal, it did look like I was getting better…After a month my dad got severely ill and was hospitalized, He had multiple-organ failure, so my family's time went on looking after him. All this while I rapidly lost weight. From 50kg, I weighed 40kg now. After my dad's health stabilized, I went to a GI and was diagnosed with having giardia. That was two months ago. He put me on nitazoxanide, for 5 days. I have been on 3 courses of it. After each course, I felt like the giardia became more and more resitant. Then I was put on albendazole which had no effect on the buggers. Then finally he put me on tinidazole for three days.. I had put all my hopes on this to finally end my nightmare. It did nothing but give me a terrible metallic taste in the mouth and terrible fatigue. After getting diagnosed, I am on a lactose free, Sugar free, wheat free diet. I am a vegetarian and so my diet is as limited as it can get. I look like a skeleton and feel suicidal and depressed all the time. I have no social life left and am home bound all the time. Now it looks like even the doctors can't help me. I have started taking VCO since a week. Also, fresh coconut and tender coconut water is a part of my daily diet. Does not look like anything's working . My current symptoms are yellow bulky stools 4-5 times upon waking and terrible gurgling stomach, tenderness in the stomach area, flatulence and belching. I would like to know if this going to last forever. All those medicines only gave me temporary relief, so I wonder if there's anything that can help me. Would be grateful to hear from chronic giardiasis sufferers.
- Re: please help!! i have drug resist... dave505
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This is a reply to # 2,013,016hope,
I am very sorry for you man! try being positive as much as you can. I've been there also including losing my job.
please read this carefully !
NO MEDICINE HAS EVER HELPED ME WITH GIARDIA.
for many reason i guess: first the perioad we are being treated is TOO SHORT so this give the bugs the opportunity to adapt to the meds. second giardia becomes more resistant to usual drugs. third its very easy to be reinfested in the familly, water supply or even by yourself.
what has worked for me (still in treatment thou):
- diet as you said: no sugar, easy carbs, diary....
- better hygiene and changed the water supply (we have giardia in city water supply)
- crushed garlic eaten 15 minutes after being crushed (some use it before the meal as a juice with water - I cant)
- olive leaf (10 days), goldenseal (no more than 7 days), propolis (10-20 drops x 3 times per day) for 20-30 days
- echinaceea can help
- warm water with lemon juice in it helps
- wheat germs helps (10 days)
if you are in India I wonder why wont you try ayurvedic they have better cure for that.
3- 5 days of whatever conventional drug is almost no help.
they replicate like crazy.Albendazole is only for children and mild case.
try to be sure its only giardia - very important. could be also something else - i do hope not.
chronic massive giardia can make you lose weight, can make you malnourished, depressed, and also gives you adrenal fatigue.
i would check water supply and wash your hand everytime you put something in your mouth.
good luck,
dave- Re: please help!! i have drug resist... dave505
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,013,025oh, i forgot
try to take these in rotation or one after another not in the same time. or maybe 2 in the same time and after other 2.
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,013,026Thanks a lot Dave505. I had all tests done including the antigen test and it was positive for giardia. All other reports came negative, even the IgA test for antibody. I read somewhere that HIV positive people and others with immunity problems are the ones who develop chronic giardiasis. Would like to know how long you been suffering from this. Now that conventional medicine has failed to treat me, i am looking at ayurvedic or naturopathic cures.
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This is a reply to # 2,013,031maybe for ten years like,
being undiagnosted and it comes and go in flare-ups.
it never appeared in the stool just when i changed totally the labs and docs. this year i have a stool sample taken from an after enema stool. the lab guy told me sometimes is the only way to find it - cause you'are close to the small intestines "material' this way. they gave me metronidazole but i cant take it and it helps you develop candida. i got adrenal fatigue and the worst was i developed leaky gut and candida from long lasting both giardia and H.pilory. Antibiotics of any kind dont help so much.
that's why i was asking is you are sure is just giardia.
the idea with "only HIV or diabetes people develop chronic..." i think its a story. what i think is to remember from here is "immunosupressed" by other factors.
could be a virus or something else. or just bad luck with a lucky strain of giardia.
"i'm pretty sure" its not so sure in my opinion. i was working as a manager in offices mainly but meeting many people "helped" me getting some critters. i was washing 15-20 times a day all the time but i've got giardia and piworms and viruses. I've got a bronchitis from the air conditioning system - nobody gave that directly, and the water supplier was almost sued by another company cause they found bacteria in the recipients they bring in the company.so...i would be much more aware of...
i would try ayurvedic. crashed garlic with wheat germs and ayurvedic sometimes makes wonder. keep poste dif you try some...oh, i forgot also...it is said to avoid fatty food when trying to kill giardia as the bile helps it to transform into cysts and its harder to destroy.
best,
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This is a reply to # 2,013,039Thanks again Dave. Can't imagine putting up with this for so long. Will definitely try crushed garlic and will let you know how my ayurvedic treatment goes.
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This is a reply to # 2,013,040I would follow Briboys advice and get tested again with different labs using different methods. Find a Dr that can do a sigmoidoscopy parasite test. The best lab I have used is called Labion and is located in Brazil and they don't do sigmoidoscopy. There are good labs out there that can detect without sigmoidoscopy but in my experience, regular labs give false negatives often. It's possible you have other bugs then Giardia.
I think furazolidone was one of the drugs that had the most effect on my Giardia problem. It's possible that Quinacrine can be used if the other meds don't work. Furazolidone is nasty and Quinacrine can be worse if taken for more then 5 days. Do research, talk with drs and be careful.
As for natural or alternative medicine.
I did have some positive results from pippali rasayana which contains Piper longum and Butea monosperma (palash). I read that Piper longum can work against amoeba in some cases (30%?) and It might have given me relief for amoeba and not Giardia because I don't think i had giardia when I was taking it (but I can't be totally sure)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9201614
My experience with pippali rasayana //www.curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1784004
I wrote about furazolidone in that post but I don't think I had giardia at that time. My success with furazolidone was in 2010 before that post.
I have read that Grapefruit-Seed-Extract (Grapefruit Seed Extract) can work against Giardia and I have some good experience with it.
Unfortunately none of the alternative treatments have really worked for me. Don't be disappointed if none of the alternative or natural treatments mentioned in Curezone don't work. As you already know, protozoa can be VERY hard to kill. I have been dealing with this for 7 years and I must tell you from experience that a lot of people in curezone don't know what they are doing. Be careful with suggestions from curezone because you don't want to get hurt or make the bugs even more resistant.
All the best
Jazzy
Disclaimer: Like most people here, I'm not a doctor or health care professional. My posts are for informational purposes only.
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This is a reply to # 2,013,039Hi there,
I also got sick in India and it turned out to be Entamoeba Histolytica and not Giardia.
There is a different treatment for EH than Giardia. I would redo mend finding a doc that can do a sigmoidoscopy and then culture the sample ASAP.
Cheers.
Brian
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This is a reply to # 2,013,025The water that i use for drinking and brushing my teeth is boiled water that is purified by an R.O purifier. So I am pretty sure that I am not getting reinfected. I also use sanitisors and disinfectants all the time. So it looks like that I have pretty stubborn critters inside of me.
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This is a reply to # 2,013,016I was diagnosed with "Establish Giardasis" in late 2009. I suffer still,...but I got aggressive without chemically killing the buggers! I use the herbs, clays enemas, zappers, and such. Your liver is telling you to listen to it! Yellow stools are always a red light,...'check engine' sign my friend. It's either your liver or pancreas. You can take that to the bank! I know,...those two organs almost killed me with cancer the past three years!
Please consider coffee enemas to open up your common bile duct-ASAP! Get your liver to let out it's toxins! Easy-peasy,....gross, Yes,...but you won't believe how much better you'll feel QUICKLY!
Sorry to hear about all you've lost with this,....and being alone. Same here,...same here. But getting MUCH better now!
Hope you do too my friend! :-)
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This is a reply to # 2,013,090Hi Jill,
I also have chronic giardiasis - we have it it the city water supply. Did the coffee enema helped you? organic coffee?
I have also cholestasis (enlarged and lazy gallbladder)and enlarged liver. I've read giardia could sit very well in the gallbladder and also block the pancreas and liver?
What herbs were you using? I used goldenseal 7 days, mashed garlic, olive leaf ...stuff like that. some said it's ok to have also wheat germ togheter with garlic. but how long?
I just finalize another cleanse and passed out some of them pinwormsthis time. Some said there is a strain of probiotic that keeps giardia away from sticking to the gut linning - l.Johnsoni
Do you have a no Sugar less carbs diet?
Did you have results with zappers? do you mind to tell which brand and the protocol?
many thanks,
dave
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This is a reply to # 2,013,785Hi Dave,
I have started taking the following ayurvedic medicines:
Vidangarishta (supposed to be anti-parasitic)
Kutaj tablets (for improving digestion)
Sanjeevani vati tablets (for the farts and strengthening the immune system
Also i am taking lots of fresh coconut, dried coconut, tender coconut water and Virgin coconut oil for their anti-parasitic properties. VCO especially seems to help me a lot as it does not need bile to digest. I am also taking garlic capsules as I cannot handle raw garlic.
My G.I doctor has given me the following medicines to be had for 10 days to be followed by colonoscopy and X-ray of the small intestine
Satronidazole, Rifaximin, Stelbid and a probiotic and prebiotic called velgut
Hoping that a combination of allopathic and ayurvedic medications do the trick.
Fingers crossed!
Hope you are seeing improvement in your condition
Cheers
Hope
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This is a reply to # 2,013,785Oh Yes Dave,...you nailed it with this: "I have also cholestasis (enlarged and lazy gallbladder)and enlarged liver. I've read giardia could sit very well in the gallbladder and also block the pancreas and liver?".
WOW! Like seeing my last four years in reverse! I got all of those things,....and it blew out my gallbladder, (had to have it removed-nearly toxic shock blue organ),...in 2009. Then, within months my pancreas and liver were as bad off as my gallbladder HAD been! Within months, I had cancer in both organs, liver and pancreas! So,...YES,..this needs to be cleared up for you Dave!
I am on a no Sugar diet,....mostly raw,...all veggies, very little fruit, some nuts, lots of seeds, sprouts, juicer going all the time. Beans and legumes for protein,.....very much the Gerson cancer idea,....without any meat or fish.
I take latero-Flora BOD strain probiotics, as well as Vitacosts two brands,....and digestive enzymes too. I use Colloidal Silver to fight the infections that these nasties can leave in the wake!
I use cheap Grocery Outlet coffee for my 3 daily enemas,...yes, organic would be better, but I'm a poor girl! :-)
My zapper history is about 2 months now,....started with CTBusters.com- $35 cheapie,...(And I LOVE it!)
Then bought the Terminator for $110, from Amazon.com....and I find myself using the small one more! I use it during the coffee hours (3) CE's (Coffee enemas),....they make my common bile duct open right up,....and my sick liver is not sick and congested anymore!Dr. Hulda Clark s advice is PERFECT and simple. 7 minutes on, then 20 off, for three cycles. Takes about 1.5 hours to do! THEN,...do an enema,....and see how right she was! Plus, take the zapper in with you, hold it to your kidneys,...WOW. I am getting well! :-) (Sorry this is TMI),....But like I said the other day on here,...this is ALL TMI! :-)
I also attend to my pH Dave! Baking soda-1-3 times a day,....1 tsp in a glass of distilled warm water,...everyday. These critters leave acid toxins in their wake also!
Sorry this is choppy,....I am slammed rushed! But,...I simply had to respond!
Cheers my friend! Go get 'em! :-)
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This is a reply to # 2,013,016Hey there,
I had really severe giardia for 8 months and while stumbling across curezone I made a promise to myself that if I got cured I would post on here so that others might find some hope from it.
Explosive diarrhoea, constant nausea, stomach cramps, fatigue, and a chemical taste in my mouth stayed for 8 months and I thought I'd never be normal again.
I tried natural methods first, raw garlic, ayurvedic herbs, a dapper, a Balinese healer, energy healing etc then decided it was time to move onto the hard stuff after diagnosis so metronidazole, tinidazole, albendazole, then a combo of albendazole with tinidazole, all under different Drs supervision while I travelled. After 6 months my body was taking the toll, I'd lost 12 kg and was thin to start with.
I returned to the UK after 2 years travelling in Asia and went straight to the London Tropical Medicine Hospital (the Drs there are amazing). I had a report of theirs on resistant giardia and the only drug with a 100% cure rate noted on their report was mepacrine(quinacrine).
I took mepacrine under the supervision of a Dr at the Tropical Medicine Hospital I believe for 7 days. Just to be sure the buggers went I also visited a naturopath and took black Wormwood at the same time. I took Alocilin max tablets for a couple of months after the Antibiotics as well as probuotics and MSM.
It took a while after finishing mepacrine for my body to start feeling normal again. I actually thought the treatment had failed because I didn't feel I instantly better, but after so long the body needed to clear all of the crap out and get working again.
I realise the original post here was many years ago but I know it's still searchable so if anybody is suffering I just wanted to let you you know that mepacrine worked for me. This was early 2017.
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