Fatty liver/liver toxicity 
risen87
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Hey, so a bunch of people have recommended looking into wether or not liver problems are part of what's going on with me and I'm thinking they might have hit the nail on the head. My symptoms that I have researched are concurrent with liver problems. I have nausea along with my headaches, a just now realized intolerance to fat (I just had olive oil on my rutabaga and got sick right after), chronic worrying about thought processes (and scrambled, fast, or fearful thoughts), insomnia, chronic fatigue and irritability (definitely not exclusive to liver problems for me), recent weight gain, and emotional instability.
What I'm wondering is:
1) What kind of action should I take to cleanse my liver in the weakened state I am in? My adrenals seem very weak right now and I don't want to over burden them and end up worse from doing the wrong type of cleanse. I definitely don't think I could follow one of the hardcore cleanses outlined on this website. Is there something softer I could do to get some relief, and once I make up some ground with my adrenals, move onto a more intense cleanse?
2) What types of dietary changes should I make to support a more healthy liver considering I have chronic candidiasis? I know to limit fat and protein but there's not much room for change since I get flare ups extremely easily, but I know something needs to be done.
3) What types of testing should I ask my doctor to get done, and what can I try to accomplish with her or my naturopath on this front?
Answers will be appreciated, thanks.
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- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity Anthony87
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This is a reply to # 2,011,6292. Eat the potatoes and veggie soups. Could flare up candida a little, but avoidance of protein and animal fats for several days should bring it down. Olive oil is ok..one tbl per day. Veggies are the easiest thing to digest and they are a hurtle you need to jump. The idea that salmon and eggs is protecting you from any symptoms is debatable..because carbs are a necessary part of human function. Turmeric is also good for bile production. Dont eat Sugar which is in fruits, or animal fats. A lot of bland food and time, excercize. You cant undo years of incorrect dieting overnight so be patient. edited by moderator
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- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity #155216
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MoreThis is a reply to # 2,011,633moderator please ban anthony87 for being counterproductive to the liver flush SUPPORT forum. hopefully life will present him with some karmic challenges for his behavior.
- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity Anthony87
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This is a reply to # 2,011,652I helped this user to look at their liver as a source for suffering because salmon and eggs all day is unhealthy by a lot of standards. Mind ya business.
- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity #155216
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This is a reply to # 2,011,671moderator please ban anthony87 from the Liver Flush Support Forum for being anti-supportive.
- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity natway
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This is a reply to # 2,011,671Thanks for speaking the truth about too much fats, Anthony. I've cut my fat intake way down and my liver pains have greatly improved.
One thing a slightly disagree with you about is going too low on natural sugars, like fruit. I've dramatically increased my fruit intake (about 10 pieces a day) and I feel I have a lot more sustained energy, mental clarity and less Sugar and fat cravings. I went an entire day eating nothing but fruit the other day (and a LOT of it to meet my daily calorie minimums) and felt great! My glucose levels were normal the entire time, including the next morning. I think too many people are afraid of fruit just like they've been afraid of carbs.
I think most people's problems here stem from too much fat and protein and too little carbs, greens, and fruits. I see a lot of people simply not getting enough calories per day too.- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity Anthony87
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This is a reply to # 2,011,685Great post natway. Yeah I guess ill bend on fruit consumption depending on the person..what is lethal is carb cutting, taking in excessive nuts and meats. Period. De facto. For sure. Guaranteed. There are a lot of posts on here now to back it up and getting away from that super rich diet is step 1 for recovery. Nutritionists will say veggies over fruits for snacking and to me it makes sense because orange juice can keep people fat.. I encourage a lot of water and tea intake and replacing water consumption with fruit to me is less than ideal. Everything in moderation. I like fruit, but for a colitis plan, I think the basis of the diet needs to be in the squash, yucca, potatoes, etc. depending on the person..but yeah theres no plan that should include this and that oil, high meat intake and high intake of nuts. The sooner we all agree the sooner most of us get more control of our lives.
- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity natway
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This is a reply to # 2,011,706Thanks.
I would agree that eat whole fruits and not overdue it on fruit juices, especially because they are 99% cooked/pasteurized and not raw, but do you think people are drinking that much fruit juice to gain weight from? An 8 oz serving of orange juice is only about 110 calories.
It's more likely people are drinking fruit juice with foods that don't digest well with fruit and/or those people still eating to much fat which are the highest form of calories.
8 oz carrot juice = 80 calories
8 oz orange juice = 110 calories
1 tbsp olive oil = 120 calories - Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity Purehealth282
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- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity lalobear
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This is a reply to # 2,012,326I haven't been on this forum that long......why is everyone so ticked off at Anthony?
- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity natway
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This is a reply to # 2,012,346Because he speaks the truth......and is kind of a jerk about it. lol!
- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity natway
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- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity lalobear
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- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity natway
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This is a reply to # 2,012,323Now that I'm on a low fat diet, I've increased my fruit intake from about 2-3 pieces a day, to about 10-15 pieces a day and starting to feel a LOT better! More energy and mental clarity. I feel I was so glucose-starved on the low carb diet.
Fruit is your friend.- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity #155216
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This is a reply to # 2,012,370here we go again, another crazy diet and Sugar addict in the making.
normal people have a few pieces of fruit a day, not 20 or 30.
eating 30 pieces of fruit is like being a junky, and then the mental problems start.
you can always spot the addicts because they never give balanced advice.- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity natway
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This is a reply to # 2,012,397People are only addicted to Sugar because for one, glucose is our main fuel source and yeah, the body craves it, and a lot of people are simply not getting enough Sugar into their cells, being blocked by eating too much fat, thus causing the body to crave Sugar even more. That's why hyperglycemia and diabetes is becoming epidemic.
Normal people are eating that many pieces of fruit per day. The average person is not.
Healthy = normal. Unhealthy = abnormal, or the current average person in the U.S.
You can always spot an unhealthy person, they are eating too much fat and not enough fruit.
- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity natway
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- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity Anthony87
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- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity Anthony87
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- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity fectoid2
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This is a reply to # 2,011,633Liver Cleanses turned me around almost overnight. I did lowfat, no red meat, high vegetable dieting for years. Lowfat = minimal vitamin A,D,E&K absorption which leads to skin, hair and nail issues. The USDA recommends 50% caloric intake from carbs, 25% from protein and 25% from fat. 25% of daily caloric intake of fats is about 1/4 cup of olive oil which is only half of what's used for a liver flush.
The Liver Cleanses gave me the energy to exercise, which, of course, leads to additional benefits. Now I run marathons, and trust me, without a functioning liver and absorption of fats, I wouldn't be running anywhere.
A number of elements can lead to cholestasis, or impaired bile flow, which can then lead to candida and other organisms taking over the digestive system. Antibiotics , birth control pills and pregnancy are just three of the potential causes for cholestasis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001263/
Thankfully it is reversible.- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity #155216
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This is a reply to # 2,011,707spot on! and great post.
the main cause of fatty liver is low fat diets which lead to bile stasis. otherwise we wouldn't have hundreds and perhaps thousands of people being cured with the liver flush.
these people recommending low fat diets are leading people in the exact opposite direction - most unfortunate for the gullible who believe in the wrong information.
- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity natway
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This is a reply to # 2,011,908Low fat = fatty liver?!? Can't help but giggle on that one. My liver and gallbladder issues started with a high animal protein/fat diet and has only gotten better switching to a near-vegan low fat diet.
When people here with all these issues are asked to write down what a they eating, almost all (if not all) of their diets are high in fat, especially those who have done a ton of oil flushes and complain about how they are not working.
I just don't see your evidence around here to the contrary.
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- Re: Fatty liver/liver toxicity #4957
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This is a reply to # 2,012,083This is a support forum for liver flushing. Please go to the Liver Flush DEBATE forum with negative comments. Also, stop the name calling or you will be banned from here.
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