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Can you help interpret what these results mean? You can see them here:
http://iodineresults.wordpress.com/
I did the spot test, then took 50mg Iodoral and collected urine for 24 hrs.
Iodine.
The spot test seems higher than normal. So this means have have enough Iodine in my system? I don't currently take any Iodine supplements.
The 24 hr Excretion seems normal.
The % is normal too at 92%.
Bromide
The spot seems normal.
The 24hr Excretion seems high. Does this affect Iodine availability in my body as bromide can take over cell receptors right?
Fluoride
Both spot and 24 hr excretion is high. Does it take over cell receptors too? I just started distilling my water so I won't be taking in fluoride for now.
I know taking Iodoral will detoxify the bromides out of the body but will it help the fluoride too?
Could you let me know what all this means? I'm wondering if I have enough iodine in my body but it's not getting to the cells? I may be completely wrong. I'd appreciate any advice.
I should mention I have been sick 25+ years. I have systemic candida, adrenal exhaustion (sometimes), hypothyroidism plus 40 symptoms. I'm exhausted and in pain all the time. (CFS/FM). I recently did a hair analysis test and the Frequent Dose Chelation yahoo support group figures I have mercury toxicity because my minerals were deranged. So I'm detoxing right now with DMSA, will add ALA soon. I've spent a great deal looking into candida and endocrine issues with no improvement in how I feel. Also got side tracked with the mercury issue as even though I thought I might have it whatever I took never worked or I didn't take enough, also on any test it showed no problems but have recently found out because the way mercury metabolizes in the body it will often not show up on tests. So I'm going to give it a good try and detox following Cutler's Protocol.
Edit: I've always been addicted to salt. I crave it all the time and thought maybe I had low aldosterone levels from the adrenals but now I wonder if it's to do with iodine. I need tons of salt everyday! It's like my body doesn't retain it.
Thanks,
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I cant help you with the test or chelation; as others at the forum are much better at it.
But; your story is similar to what I had; systemic candida for 20 years, hypo T and adrenal fatigue.
You may look into borax for your candida; I got rid of mine with it.
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1864194#i
Your craving for salt is probably your adrenals needing it; I also have this craving.
I would add 3-4 grams of vit c, divided into 3-4 dosages, this will help the adrenals. I also take a few herbs designed to support them.
magnesium is also great help for the adrenals and sleep.
so are Iodine and companions.
to much fluoride may be part of your fatigue and pain;
http://poisonpaste.com/fluoride-and-fibromyalgia.php
You will definitely need iodine, here is a good start to educate yourself;
//www.curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1862500#i
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This is a reply to # 1,946,367Hi Gina,
Thanks for your reply. I will look at the links you gave me. What herbs did you use for your adrenals? I've tried lots of things with no relief.
Forgot to mention earlier I have cherry angiomas. I seem to be getting more all the time.
I hope someone will come along and interpret the results for me. I'm curious to know what it all means and how much this affects my health. I feel like I've been run over by a semi truck each and every day. :(
Cheryl
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I haven't seen one of these test results before. It's interesting. About the only thing I know a little about is the 92% iodine excreted. Since you're not supplementing, the 92% suggests a problem utilizing iodine, as they point out on the sheet. Generally, Vit C 2-4 g and Optimox ATP Cofactors (B2 and B3) are both recommended, since we can't be sure which of the problems you have. Vit C helps the first one, and Vits B2 and B3 help the second one.
If you're wanting more explanation than the numbers provide, are you allowed to consult with anybody at Hakala? Otherwise, Cougar is our poster most versed in this testing.
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This is a reply to # 1,947,041There's a long ingredients list in the Optimox ATP Cofactors, including magnesium stearate. Does this matter to any of you though? Or am I just overly worried since I read it may block absorption of other nutrients?
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I'm okay with the small amount used. You need to be comfortable with what you take, though.
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This is a reply to # 1,947,041Hi there,
Thank you for your reply. I recently emailed Hakala Research labs to help with interpretation and I got this message from Abbey who is the co-owner.
"Spot Iodine shows the amount of Iodine in your diet.
The 92% Iodine excretion is probably an overestimation due to high bromide and fluoride levels. Both will block the absorption of iodine into the cell thereby causing increased excretion.
Bromide blood levels are generally double urinary levels, would be nice to see that number closer to zero on both the spot and 24hr collection.
I would suspect that fluoride will come down when you stop using fluoridated water, keep in mind that 90%+ of fluoride is trapped in the bones so detox is a slow process.
Iodine will speed the excretion of both bromide and iodine.
A good program for supplementation, developed by Dr. Abraham, can be found on our website http://www.hakalalabs.com
under the orthoiodosupplementation program."
@Just thinking
I still kinda find the results confusing. It's like the Iodine is in my body but it's not getting to the cells due to the bromide and fluoride I guess. And I find it funny I have just over normal amounts of iodine in the spot test cause I think it comes from all the salt I add to my food cause I have such bad salt cravings.
I'm already taking the Vit C and some supplements on their own so will have to compare what I'm taking and what's Optimox. Thanks for the suggestion.
Would having these kinds of results make someone feel like crap? I describe my illness briefly above.
Would appreciate any more comments by anyone.
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You pretty much got it.
and JT explained it pretty well.
if you are not supplementing Iodine and your excretion is coming out high, it means you are not getting it into the cells. your symporter (NIS) can be damaged ...which is called a symporter defect--it is the molecule that gets the Iodine transported into the cell. Vitamin C in 3-10g/day dosages can be helpful in fixing this. Try, higher doses at some point and see if this helps. often I will do 3g's 1-3x/day.
I will mix it with 1/4tsp of salt and 1/4 tsp of potassium chloride.
the other issue that can be caused by the Iodine not being bound to a protein....which is called organification. As JT mentioned, using B2/3 in the right amounts will fix this problem.
I am very glad to see you are following Cutler's protocol....which means I can assume you have your fillings all out?????
I am just a couple of years ahead of you. It can be a long road and hopefully it will be easier for you than me.
keep posting and keep asking questions, this forum has been so helpful for me to have hope and stay on course.
specific organ cleanses and parasite cleanses can be very useful.
it is late here or I would write more.
Yes, this will make you feel like utter crap.
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This is a reply to # 1,952,957@Cougar Thanks for the clarification. I understand better and I'm going to google some of those terms you mentioned.
Yes I had my fillings out 15 years ago. I felt no different afterwards. I didn't know at the time that you had to detox the mercury. Then nothing ever showed up on tests but I know now that often mercury doesn't. So it's been a long road to get where I am. Seems all my problems are leading back to mercury and Iodine issue plus candida. I always felt I had mercury problems just cause of the symptoms but any treatment I tried I didn't feel better. So maybe I wasn't taking the right things or enough of it? So now I'm trying Cutler's protocol.
I am also looking into other cleanses too.
Thanks for letting me know all this can make you feel like crap (well I know mercury can but wasn't sure about the bromide/fluoride problem). It gives me hope I may be on my way to feeling well again. I just started Iodoral today so I will cross my fingers.
Thanks again.
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Are you taking the companions?
Salt flushes
boron/borax?
cover those bases too.
sorry if I am being redundant......it is late and I am out of town after drinking too much hard cider!!! Ha.....I will probably feel like ship tomorrow but oh well.....
I had my fillings out and the ND i was working with said from his muscle testing that all was well and I really didn't need to do any detox.
then I had chronic diarrhea for 8 months until I realized my food allergies got way worse
now grains and cruciferous veggies don't work....and that was 10 years ago.
so you are already more educated finding this group so good for you!!!!
keep us posted even if it is little updates
if you don't get good answers, ask again
I bailed the first try with Iodine because I was shy when symptoms came up and I went lala into another direction and then came back again and now for two years I am in the Iodine laboratory!!!
it is not everything but it is such an important piece of the puzzle.
you might also see about getting some SSKI .
I am not sure if Trapper is cooking anymore????
sometimes the SSKI is a good adjunct to Lugol's/iodoral
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This is a reply to # 1,955,072Hi Cougar!
Thanks for your message.
I just started Iodoral 3 days ago at 12.5mg. I didn't buy Optimox Co-factors but I bought B2 and B3 separately in the same forms so hope it's OK.
As for the salt, I have to research that. I think some don't bother if they don't have symptoms? I may consider it as I crave salt a lot anyway I suspect because of low aldorsterone levels (still waiting for results) and someone said to put the salt in the boron water. I'm not sure though since the boron you drink 4 days and then none for 3 days. I will see. I don't like drinking a lot of salt in a glass of water. Too salty for me. I don't mind spreading it on my food but I don't know if it's enough even though I'm a saltaholic.
I just got the boron today and I'm excited to try it. I've tried EVERYTHING with no success. I'm still going to do the candida diet just may not be as strict which will make it easier and more enjoyable. Ginagirl didn't do a diet and she got better noticeably in 6 months. I'm so happy she posted to let me know as I was at my wits end.
Please be redundant with me! I need all the help I can get. I've been sick 25 years! I love Curezone. There are so many people here to help you!
I'm glad you're back on the Iodine. I know what it feels like to go down another direction and get sidetracked. I've done it many sometimes. Sometimes only due to not finding positive tests for what I thought I had but sometimes tests just are accurate. As for Iodine I tried Kelp with no difference so thought it wasn't an issue. Then I found out it can have heavy metals in it. And I think Ginagirl had no results either from it. So it just goes to show you sometimes it's good to keep reevaluating things and doing more research if you're gut is telling you you really feel there is a problem.
I'm determine to take Iodine the rest of my life as I see how important it is, regardless if I feel better from it or not but I'm hoping I'll notice a difference.
SSKI is another thing I have to research. I've seen people mention it but I don't know what it was. I thought maybe you took SSKI or Lugol's/Iodoral but looks like you can take them together.
Haha! You better stay away from that cider!!! I know what those nights are like! Thank god I don't have them frequently! :)
Thanks again for all your help. I will post more questions if I have any. I think I'll slowly work my way up to 50mg of Iodoral and then decide if I should taper down or go up to 100mg. Eventually I want to just take the 12.5 daily.
Take care!!!
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