I really need help with this, I'm worried there's more of these living inside me I really need help with this, I'm worried there's more of these living inside me
I really need help with this, I'm wo... 
Palkia
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Yeast is a fungus, so the yeast and fungal forms are the same
This is incorrect. Candida is a dimorphic microbe. This means it can change between two different forms. In this case between a benign yeast and pathogenic fungus. In the yeast form the Candida does not cause any harm because it lacks hyphae and pseudohyphae. These are finger-like projections that allow microbes to dig in to harder tissues such as how mold can penetrate wallboard.
The conversion of Candida albicans between these two forms is pH dependent. In an acidic environment the Candida stays as a yeast and causes no harm. The acidic environment also turns off the Candida growth gene preventing candidiasis. The acids that control this are produced by our acid producing Lactobacillus and Bifidus flora. When we kill off the flora, such as with antibiotics, the pH of the tissues where the flora are normally found become alkaline. This turns on the Candida growth gene and promotes hyphae and pseudohyphae formation leading to candidiasis.
Here are some old posts I did on the subject:
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1452732#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1452747#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1452739#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1868868#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1481419#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1451150#i
http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1552347#i
Well, the main thing I've gotten out of this is to be sure to take prebiotics as well as probiotics.
That is the most important part anyway. The probiotics help to jump start the flora. But they need to be fed so they can multiply and generate their beneficial acids that control the Candida. This is where the prebiotics come in.
Hveragerthi, I am always intrigued by your posts. You are a very wise being. I have read you suggest oat bran or rice bran to feed the good bacteria. I've got some Bob's Red Mill Rice Bran (not sure if this is good or not, perhaps you could suggest another brand), but I don't know how to use it. Is it necessary to cook it? How long after/before do I eat it along with the probiotics?
The bran does not need to be cooked. I used to to eat spoon fulls of the rice bran as a snack just because I liked the flavor.
I usually use the NOW brand of rice bran since it still has the oil in it. And the oil has the other beneficial compounds such as gamma oryzanol. Keep it refrigerated though once the bag is opened.
It is best to wait at least a half an hour or more after taking the probiotics to eat. This way the probiotics have a chance to leave the stomach in case there are any spices or other compounds in the diet that can kill the flora if in contact. If after a meal give it at least 3 hours.
And I would like to hear your opinion on coconut oil effecting good bacteria or not. I eat maybe 6 tablespoons per day slathered on my foods to keep weight on. I just started wondering if this was okay if I'm trying to replace good flora. I hope so, because Lord knows I need probiotics!
No, coconut oil will not affect the bacteria. The active component in the oil are fatty acids also produced by the probiotic flora themselves.
Still I would not take the oil, or the prebiotics, at the same time as probiotics because the oil and fibers will slow gastric emptying meaning it will take longer for the bacteria to exist the stomach. This means more likely to be exposed to compounds in food or higher stomach acid levels that can harm the flora.
It is quite evident you didn't actually read through the entirety of the studies you provided links to, or comprehend the implications and results properly.
For example this one:
PHR2 of Candida albicans encodes a functional homolog of the pH-regulated gene PHR1 with an inverted pattern of pH-dependent expression.
Actually demonstrates that candida albicans has two similar yet inversely related genes that enable it to adapt to both alkaline as well as acidic pH values. When this study removed the PHR1 gene, they basically found the paired-down mutant to have growth defects in the alkaline range. In other words, PHR1 enables candida to adapt to alkaline environments. When they removed the PHR2 gene, they found the paired down mutant to have growth defects in the acidic range. In other words, PHR2 enables candida to adapt to acidic environments.
"The conversion of Candida albicans between these two forms is pH dependent."
Not true. It can convert whenever it wants in order to suit its need, for example when it is in the yeast form and gets consumed by phagocytosis...it can then convert into the hyphal form and kill the phagocyte. Are you telling me this is because the pH of the phagocyte is alkaline? Wake up.
And like I stated many times, a normal and healthy colon has pH 5.5 to 7, which candida albicans can easily adapt to and morph into the fungal form as it pleases. A lof of the studies you are posting are showing normal growth at pH 5.5 to 7.
Alkalinity kills fungus. This is why people that have skin fungus who eat a ton of greens eliminate the fungus. Same goes for parasites.
That's impressive & interesting that they got tapes to come out that way as those bugs are very tenacious. The only thing is, passing some & killing all of them ain't necessarily the same thing. And all it takes is one pregnant one to keep things going. So I say eat leafy greens - the best thing you can put on your plate - but I'll take a side dish of herbicides & a zapper in maintenance daily. Takin' no chances.
Look in to ingesting food grade diatomaceous earth. It not only destroys intestinal worms safely, but their eggs as well.
Mostly anecdotal stories I have heard over the years in person and over the internet, people eating tons of greens, sprouts, highly alkalinizing foods etc and then passing tapeworms. it has to be a high quantity though.
How do you know it was not the toxic oxalic acid (beet greens, kale, spinach, etc.) found in some greens that was not what was getting rid of the worms if the story is true?
The majority of his greens were from simple green and red lettuce.
The majority of his greens were from simple green and red lettuce.
