Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu joined over two dozen Republican lawmakers in calling on Attorney General Eric Holder’s to resign over Operation Fast and Furious, the gunrunning program that saw the ATF deliver some 2,000 guns directly into the hands of Mexican drug gangs, labeling the scandal worse than the Watergate cover-up that brought down the Nixon White House.
http://www.infowars.com/sheriff-fast-and-furious-bigger-scandal-than-watergate/
The fundamental attribution error, also called the correspondence bias, describes the tendency for observer’s to attribute other people’s behavior to internal or dispositional factors and to downplay situational causes (Gilbert & Malone, 1995).
Every day people make causal explanations for their own and others’ behavior, as well as for events in general. These explanations, or attributions, are a crucial form of information processing that help explain the situations and behavior occurring in the world around us (Kazdin, 2000). Psychologists have come up with multiple attribution theories to describe the different ways people use various pieces of information when trying to explain particular events. According to research, humans actively engage in attribution methods because they have an innate desire to understand, predict, and control what’s going on around them (Forgas, 1998). In doing so, people’s ability to know, and, in some ways, control the social world around them is enhanced.
http://216.22.10.76/wiki/The_Fundamental_Attribution_Error
A federal appeals court has upheld a 55-year prison term imposed on a Utah man with no criminal record who was convicted in 2003 of selling several hundred dollars worth of marijuana on three occasions.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/11/national/11sentence.html
"More info to dispel the suggestion that legalization will relieve the citizens of any costs related to drug consumption."
The word "drug" is not even clearly defined by you or the authoritarian jack boots. There are all kinds of problems with using blanket statements as I have already pointed out. The fact that you ignore it and continue to make blanket statements show the lack of scientific discernment in your posts.
Consider the origin of the word "science".
science
As you can see the Etymology dictionary makes distinction between possible definitions. Why do your messages always seem to use blanket statements, why not stick to the specific point of debate instead of making the comparisions and spurious connections between distinct substances?
Sorry but people use medicine to ease their pain, that is simply reality, when you take away the ability of people to mitigate their pain and put it in the hands of unjust law enforcers and doctor/priests, you also revoke a basic human right of self determination. Next they'll be telling people what jobs they can or can't do, based on a techno-caste system, that's where it goes, and that is the true gateway to corruption and injustice, not marijuana. Evil lies in the hearts of men willing to impose the goals of their distorted perception on others. With the intent to destroy others natural rights on this planet. Evil does not lie in a coca or cannabis plant, they are God given food and medicine. Which can deliver relief in a benign manner when utilized properly, and can supply important chemicals that improve body function simultaneously. With all things taken into account, including agricultural upbringing, minimal processing, and mode of ingestion, the proper methods can be utilized with no ill effect.
Yeah, but you make no distinction as far as "drugs" go in your comments that is the big flaw to your rambling argument. You use a blanket term that is not accurate and infact only brings more confusion. Then you comment about negative side, when the rhetoric you utilize in your messages is a negative side to your inane nebulous argument. Then there are you personal attacks another negative side to your supposed lucid comments. Not very elucidating at all. no specifics only blanket comments of falsehood.
The Real Cost of Prisons Project seeks to broaden and deepen the organizing capacity of prison/justice activists working to end mass incarceration. The Real Cost of Prisons Project brings together justice activists, artists, justice policy researchers and people directly experiencing the impact of mass incarceration to create popular education materials and other resources which explore the immediate and long-term costs of incarceration on the individual, her/his family, community and the nation.
http://www.realcostofprisons.org/
The US rose to eminence by producing value, and by a fair percentage of citizens sharing the wealth. The further the nation has been corrupted from the stability of fairness, the faster our rate of decline. Runaway greed, lust for power, and raw crony capitalism have reversed our national trajectory so insidiously that not just we, but even Earth’s biosphere, are in free fall. Is it more than simple coincidence that such comprehensive decline so closely parallels our prohibition of hemp?
Sure, there was a glitch 5 years after hemp was banned as the evil weed with roots in hell. Top government officials still insist, forcefully, that there is no difference between “marijuana” and industrial hemp. With that in mind, please compare marijuana propaganda and hysteria that heralded hemp prohibition and haunts us to this day, with the government’s own film, Hemp for Victory, produced in 1942. We needed hemp to “win” WWII, so under duress, the feds resorted to truth.
So what changed in those 5 years? Certainly not hemp, exactly the same resource extraordinaire that has served humanity for at least 12,000 years. Priorities changed, propaganda changed. And hemp didn’t change when the war ended and hemp reverted to our enemy. You might wonder, whose enemy?
Arguably, hemp is the most useful member of the entire plant kingdom. So how could nature’s premier converter of sunshine and water into value, a superstar of the biosphere and powerful supporter of life on Earth be considered an enemy?
War is our enemy. Nobody wins in war, everybody loses...except the “money changers”. Ever since Jesus ran them out of the Temple with a whip (remember him, the Prince of Peace?), they have relentlessly, progressively embedded as a certain subspecies—psychopaths born without conscience, without any sense of right or wrong, without a soul; beings to whom truth and justice are alien concepts, to be in any way so much as acknowledged only under extreme duress. So yes, all of humanity loses in war, there are no winners. And coincidence has nothing to do with those at the root of hemp prohibition being the same as those who have blessed us with perpetual war.
As in the words of humanity’s Rosthschild malignancy: “We own you. We will take everything.”
Greed is Not Good
Remember “Morning in America” (mourning?) when “greed is good” pealed like church bells? Reaganomics was born that morning. Even after decades of wealth gushing ever upward, hardly any of it ever seems to trickle back down. Imagine that, shucks, the whole concept sounds so...Reagan. Millions of fossil Americans can still get misty at any mention of “Dutch”.
Despite reality (real reality, not Bush, or reality TV kinds), the GOP (repugnantcan party) clings tenaciously to this fiendish canard even as we approach midnight in America. Trickle-down theory...Reaganomics.
Greed is the glue that sticks wealth to wherever it rises. Greed is also the essence that keeps hemp our enemy. Hemp has every potential to spread wealth down through the workers who actually create wealth, potential to energize regional economies—perfect antidote to the plague of globalization, that concentrator of wealth into, as George H. W. Bush described, “...higher, tighter and righter hands.” Same hands now steering humanity toward hell; hands with the stickiest fingers, and the greatest distance from those passé concepts: humanity, and commonwealth—or common good.
War is All Hell
Keeping track of all our current wars gets increasingly difficult, especially with CorpoMedia so focused on future targets, such as Iran, Pakistan, Syria, Lebanon, Russia, China...even, as certain tea-party princesses have said, the “country” of Africa.
After so much of our manufacturing base has been gutted, fully one third of it within the first decade of “America’s century” (four-fifths of that during the Bush/Cheney nightmare); and with so many other good jobs herded offshore, it might seem that war and financialization are becoming our primary industries. Plunder and casino, rape and manipulation, destruction and parasitism, murder and financial malignancy...the future is so bright we’ve gotta wear headlamps.
The farcical War on Terror is a dream come true for the money changers. The war against a ghost that could never surrender because it’s, well, a ghost. Forever war. And the slimiest war mongers of all feverishly masquerade as hardcore fundamentalist Christians. The Prince of Peace would puke.
Almost seems we can’t engage anything without declaring war on it. And talk about (intentionally?) miserable aim. The War on Terror, besides being a lurid excuse for pirating resources, especially oil, and “spreading freedom and democracy”, it cloaks a maniacal assault on our Constitution (with or without “boots on the ground”) to render the US a police state. Such irony might have only one viable competitor....
The War on Drugs
Somehow, it might not seem quite so bad, a government waging war against its own people to eliminate the scourge of drug abuse; but when that same government is the world’s top drug trafficker...rather exceeds the term irony, transcending into the Twilight Zone.
If more people knew how much the Taliban’s eradication of opium poppy production had to do with why we invaded Afghanistan, and have stretched it out to our longest war ever...well, it probably wouldn’t matter.
It’s sensible business, filling our increasingly-privatized prison system with marijuana smokers to capitalize on a huge, reliable slave-labor pool. And after all, as president Calvin Coolidge said:
“The business of America is business.”
Bad business is one thing, but, the worst business...guess that’s why we’re Number One. When you’re the Boss, anything you might say or do is right; hard right, nowadays, as hard as the righteous wing cherry-picking scripture...and through the most twisted, tortuous exegesis, all but actually saying—indeed, platforming: “In the beginning, God created corporations....”
Of course that’s not quite correct. Hemp came way before corporations. Hemp is even older than money—has actually been used as money, the real kind, not faith-based money (fiat). In early America, taxes could be paid in hemp. Nowadays our tax dollars feed the rounding up of marijuana offenders and packing them into work prisons. Yes, our taxes perpetuate the drug war cash cow (that would wither without marijuana), and insure that hemp will not threaten the status quo in this corporate-controlled home of Big Oil.
Wisdom Versus Cleverness
Our star, Sol, the sun...it gives us all the real-time energy we might ever need. The challenge is harvesting that energy as elegantly as with growing hemp. Luckily...or perhaps exactly the opposite for us—and even more unluckily for our progeny—Earth has been very good at fixing solar energy into fossil energy.
Millions of years worth of solar energy mostly sequestered from the biosphere; toxic, biocidal energy, black death safely isolated from Earth’s life processes.... Perhaps fossil energy is some grand test of human wisdom, along the lines of: If you’re clever enough to significantly tap fossil energy, are you wise enough not to disrupt the biosphere with it?
Cleverness is plentiful—the human brain is magnificent...except for the wisdom deficiency, which so dependably invites disaster. Cleverness often breeds destruction; wisdom involves nurture, greater awareness and esteem for what gave us life and keeps life going, and utmost respect for the future. Wisdom versus cleverness influences being born into heaven, or hell.
Wisdom feeds the creation of value. Cleverness too often engenders a world controlled by parasites who create no value, but instead, employ every form of violence, murder, destruction and manipulation to usurp value from those who create value. Hemp is a paragon of wisdom—of fitting perfectly into and furthering Earth’s living energy systems. Hemp could shield the wisdom in humanity from the parasitical cleverness driving us down the road of perpetual war, toward utter biospheric collapse.
Where will we, and the rest of Earth’s species live after human cleverness collapses our biosphere?
For at least 12,000 years, humanity’s wisdom embraced hemp as an indispensable ally. For 74 years (except for those few years of Hemp For Victory!), cleverness in this nation now become the greatest parasite the world has ever seen has kept hemp our enemy. But wisdom hangs on in the more than 30 countries treating hemp as the supreme natural resource it has always been. Those countries feed the annual $450 million retail hemp business in this country—business living exclusively on imported raw materials.
Nothing compares with hemp in terms of powering good jobs that cannot be offshored—millions of acres of hemp, an agricultural revolution creating an expanding spectrum of gainful employment. Nothing could touch hemp in terms of impacting the near total dominance of corporations in virtually every aspect of modern America.
Hemp offers many thousands of superior products that perpetuate living systems, instead of killing them as the fossil-energy empire is doing—a whole new industry of vast scope, creating value, virtually independent of the corporate fossil empire. Only hemp has such fantastic potential to wrest power from the parasites and spread it among their victims. Hemp could turn Power to the People from a trampled cliché, into glory!
If you believe that marijuana realistically had anything to do with the prohibition of industrial hemp farming in this world’s most powerful parasite...please try to not judge me too harshly. I’m simply advocating wisdom.
For further reading about hemp, and its prohibition, please go here.
http://www.activistpost.com/2011/10/hemp-versus-status-quo.html
http://www.latimes.com/la-me-doctors-marijuana-20111016,0,179189.story
Pot should be available over the counter at every grocery store and corner market. By making it illegal America has made international organized criminals wealthy and entire governments corrupt. This is simply a repeat of prohibition which was never enforced.
As an aside, one acre of hemp produces four times the amount of paper that an acre of trees but the Fear Mongers of the 1930s (also known as corporate logging interests, competitors of hemp) frightened the hell out of everyone and they still do it. We currently import hemp products costing the USA millions of dollars while it could be home grown. Hemp, if I remember right, has about 1/100th the amount of TCP of marijuana.
As an ancient old fart I have never used marijuana and never intend too but the absolute mess that we've made out of it and the idiocy of anyone trying to ban it while saying nothing about alcohol is absolute insanity. Take down the unregulated prescription serotonin reuptake inhibitors which only benefit the bit pharmaceuticals - FIRST.
http://www.marijuana.com/drug-war-headline-news/134203-usa-related-health-cos...
USA: Tobacco-Related Health Costs: $800; Booze-Related Health Costs: $165; Pot-Related Health Costs: $20
Health-related costs per user are eight times higher for drinkers than
they are for those who use cannabis, and are more than 40 times higher for
tobacco smokers, according to a report published in the British Columbia
Mental Health and Addictions Journal.
According to the report, In terms of [health-related] costs per user:
tobacco-related health costs are over $800 per user, alcohol-related health
costs are much lower at $165 per user, and cannabis-related health costs are the
lowest at $20 per user.
The review, authored by researchers from the Centre for Addictions Research of
British Columbia at the University of Victoria and the Canadian Centre on
Substance Abuse at the University of Ottawa, stated: Alcohol is used by a
very large number of people with the vast majority of these using in low- or
moderate-risk ways. Conversely, cannabis and tobacco are used by far fewer
people. The majority of cannabis use is low- and moderate-risk, however, while
the majority of tobacco is high-risk.
The study reported that social costs applicable to marijuana are primarily
enforcement-related.
The authors concluded: The harms, risks and social costs of alcohol, cannabis
and tobacco vary greatly. A lot has to do with how the substances are handled
legally. Alcohol and tobacco are legal substances, which explains their low
enforcement costs relative to cannabis. On the other hand, the health costs per
user of tobacco and alcohol are much higher than for cannabis. This may
indicate that cannabis use involves fewer health risks than alcohol or tobacco.
These variations in risk, harms and cost need to be taken into account as we
think about further efforts to deal with the use of these three substances.
Efforts to reduce social costs related to cannabis, for example, will likely
involve shifting its legal status by decriminalizing casual use, to reduce the
high enforcement costs. Such a shift may be warranted given the apparent
lower health risk associated with most cannabis use.
According to a recent Rasmussen national poll of 1,000 likely voters, Americans
believe by more than two to one that alcohol is more dangerous than
marijuana.
Hearst in its era was the News Corporation of its day. "Hearst newspapers introduced the word "marijuana" into English and inflamed the public with outrageous stories of drug-related violence."
http://www.lightparty.com/Energy/Hemp5.html
INDUSTRIAL HEMP NOW
"Make the most of the Indian Hemp seed and sow it everywhere." - George Washington, 1794
1. "Since 1937, about half the forests in the world have been cut down to
make paper. If hemp had not been outlawed, most would still be standing,
oxygenating the planet." - Alan Bock
2. Historical tradition, if not current federal law, favors hemp. The U.S. Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, The Gutenberg Bible, and Old Glory (our nation's first flag) were all made from hemp - as was the favorite fuel of Henry Ford, the reading lamp oil of Abraham Lincoln, the paints used by Van Gogh and Rembrandt, and the parachute webbing that saved the live of George Bush.
3. Hemp canvas covered the Westward-bound wagons, the tall sailing ships, the bi-planes and zeppelins of World War I, and provided the original Levi pants worn by California goldminers in 1849.
4. Hemp was so crucial to colonial America that its cultivation was mandated by law.
5. INDUSTRIAL USES: As an agricultural commodity, hemp is arguably the world's top renewable resource for fuel, paper, cloth, paint, plastic, protein, soap, oil and over 25,000 other products.
6. Anything made from oil or wood can be made from hemp.
7. Hemp biomass can be converted into fuels (methane, methanol, gasoline) more efficiently than fossil fuels (coal, oil) and without the sulfur or acid rain.
8. Hemp fiberboard is stronger than wood; hemp houses are as strong as cement houses and better insulated.
9. Plastic, rayon, cellophane made from hemp are biodegradable; plastic and nylon made from petrochemicals are non-biodegradable. Grocery shoppers given the choice between paper or plastic bags must decide between cutting down trees or spewing toxic chemicals. In landfills, both biodegrade slowly if at all. Visualize a third choice: biodegradable cellophane bags made from hemp. The paper industry uses nearly half the world's timber harvest. According to the USDA, hemp produces four times the paper/acre as trees, and grows in all climate zones of the contiguous 48 states.
10. Hemp paper will last up to 1,500 years; hemp cloth is stronger than cotton. Cotton requires more pesticides than any other agricultural product (39 million pounds in 1993).
11. Hemp grows without pesticides. Hemp's long taproot improves soil quality and reduces erosion.
ERADICATION CONSPIRACY: During the 1930s, machinery was developed for separating hemp fibers from the stalk, thus making widespread industrial use feasible. Popular Mechanics called hemp a "billion-dollar crop."
12. Hemp's future looked promising but this was not to be. DuPont had just obtained patents for making nylon from coal, plastic from oil, and paper from trees.
13. Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon (an oil baron) was DuPont's chief financial backer. The Hearst newspaper empire owned enormous timber tracts. The oil, synthetic fiber, timber and cotton industries stood to lose billions if hemp was not outlawed.
14. Secret meetings were held. Treasury Secretary Mellon appointed his nephew-in-law to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics. Hearst newspapers introduced the word "marijuana" into English and inflamed the public with outrageous stories of drug-related violence.
15. Anti-marijuana films (Reefer Madness and Assassin of Youth) fanned the flames of hysteria. The strategy worked. In 1937, Congress outlawed hemp by imposing a prohibitive tax - just as DuPont's annual report predicted: "... the revenue-raising power of government may be converted into an instrument for forcing acceptance of sudden new ideas of industrial and social reorganization."
16. DuPont Corporation, 1937 As a model of deception and orchestrated media manipulation, the anti-hemp crusade constitutes one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetuated on the American People. Few public relations campaigns in history can match its success in eradicating competition while transforming citizens into unknowing pawns of big business. The legacy of Reefer Madness lives on today. Industrial-grade hemp is worthless as marijuana since its THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) content is so low, as little as 0.06%.
17. Industrial-grade hemp varieties poses no psychoactive effects. In contrast, high-grade marijuana strains can have THC contents exceeding 10% but are worthless for industrial purposes.
18. This vital distinction is lost on those caught up in the anti-drug frenzy currently fashionable in this country - a frenzy perpetuated by vested interests. The New York Times, for example, owns a pulp mill in Canada and benefits from wood pulp paper production.
19. DuPont, Monsanto, Dow Chemical and Standard Oil are protected from competition by the marijuana laws...as are the cotton, coal, timber, chlorine, polyester, latex paint and vinyl plastic industries. The major considerations blocking hemp's utilization are not agricultural or botanical, but political.
20. PATENTED HEMP At least 18 European and Asian countries now grow industrial-grade hemp. France, the world's largest producer of industrial hemp, recently patented a hybrid strain containing only 0.4% THC.
21. This ensures ongoing seed purchases from France. French hybrid hemp requires fertilizers, growth stimulators and pesticides.
22. Patents promote the cultivation of inferior seeds which adversely affect hemp's overall commercial value.
ENERGY CONVERSION Global climate change is the most threatening and intractable of all environmental problems we face. Carbon dioxide (CO2) is the most crucial of the greenhouse gases contributing to global warming. Since pre-industrial times, CO2 levels have risen by almost 30% due to deforestation and fossil fuel combustion.
23. The U.S. currently burns fossil fuels for 93% of its energy needs and consumes 25% of the world's supply.
24. One tank of gasoline generates up to 400 pounds of CO2. During the 1930s, Henry Ford grew hemp on his estate to demonstrate the efficiency of methanol production. Both Henry Ford and Rudolph Diesel (inventor of the diesel engine) intended to power their vehicles with plant-based fuels.
25. Hemp biomass grown for fuel would reverse global warming by converting
CO2 into oxygen during the growing cycle. Hemp is one of the richest biomass
sources. Each acre of hemp yields 10 tons of biomass (1,000 gallons of methanol)
in 4 months.
26. The gas turbine generates cost-competitive electrical power using biomass
fuels. Researchers at Princeton University estimate that biomass fuels combined
with advanced gasifier-gas turbine technology could compete in cost with coal,
nuclear, and hydroelectric power in both industrialized and developing
countries.
27. If vehicle fuel efficiency were doubled, biomass energy could replace all fossil fuels now used in cars and all coal burned for electricity in the U.S. To maximize efficiency, plant-based methanol, plastic, rayon and electrical production could occur at the same facility. In 1982, U.S. nuclear power plants consumed 540 tons of nuclear fuel, and coal-fired power plants released 2,772 tons of radioactive uranium and thorium into the environment.
28. Hemp biomass farms would abate foreign oil dependency, soil erosion, acid rain, air pollution and global warming, while laying the groundwork for revitalized rural communities. Rural pasture land (7% of U.S. acreage) could produce enough biomass to end U.S. dependence on gas and oil.
29. By converting cotton, tobacco, sugar and cattle feed production into biomass, energy independence would be within reach. The least valuable hemp product is biomass fuels. Each acre of hemp grown for fiber and pulp is worth $750 - considerably more than each acre of corn or wheat.
30. In 1994, President Clinton issued an executive order naming hemp in the National Defense Industrial Resources Preparedness Policy.
31. In 1995, the Hemp Production Act was introduced in Colorado, and the Governor of Kentucky appointed a hemp feasibility task force.
32. Several American companies are using imported hemp to produce clothing, paper, oil and other products. Hemp ice cream, cheese, cookie and pancake mixes are now available. In each case, demand outstrips supply. Domestically-grown hemp products would generate new job and business opportunities that benefit the environment. Innovative economic and environmental programs can benefit communities. When Oregon restricted logging in 1991, a state restraining program turned timber workers into auto mechanics, cabinet makers, health care workers, or accountants.
33. Similar programs can retrain workers now employed in the chlorine, pesticide, bleached paper, cotton, tobacco and coal industries. In the long run, every American job depends on our natural resources. Let us uphold our forefather's traditions by restoring hemp to its rightful place as this nation's top renewable resource. Let us use its bountiful harvest to heal the mistakes of generations past and ensure the quality of life for succeeding generations. The transition of our economy from petrochemical-based to plant-based will ease the conversion to a chlorine-free economy. Both conversions should be planned and coordinated simultaneously. During World War II, America's prohibitionist hemp laws were suspended to meet pending material shortages.
34. Our government asked Kentucky 4-H Club youths to help in the war effort
by growing hemp.35 Farmers were encouraged to grow hemp through the USDA film
"Hemp for Victory." Critical environmental pressures call for these
laws to again be set aside.
Cannabis has been around and used for thousands of years, the vision you put forth only spans a century at most, this shows how infantecimal the perception put forth in your messages is. Along with all the other mode-earn psyentists it is as if documentation is only reliable for less than a century, and anything before that is myth, when in fact data in this day and age is massaged and manipulated in order to create a false perception. It is generally covered in marketing classes at major colleges, "How to lie with statistics" comes to mind.
Cannabis never destroyed a society in the past, and was only deemed a scourge less than one hundred years ago. And that was based in part by the wealthy TPTB that wanted to control industry. With industrial hemp legal, they would have never been able to accomplish the iron grip they now hold on society. Welcome to the corporate fascist reality that is now and realize drug prohibition and especially the prohibition of cannabis is indicative of the current jack boot system. When it is once again legal, they(TPTB) will continue to try to control it, but it won't work free society will slip through their grasp. Natural law will be triumphant, because it is based on life not money and power.
violation of the TOS
I don't get "high" from cannabis, I get normal, that is, I am not in pain and suffering to the same extent, and I actually have a healthy appetite also as a result. And generally I like not to smoke it, as it is more affectively delivered in different manners.
for example: www.phoenixtears.ca
drug free56 "Well. You may be thinking I am attacking you but that is not the case.
As I said before:If you do have a legitimate medical condition and marijuana helps you then I do not oppose the use of marijuana for medical use."
Thats not what you said last message. Your messages are flip flopping.
Here is what you said.
drugfree56 "You smoke the hemp that gets you high because that is what you want more so than any relief you get from the chemical substances that are in the marijuana for medical purposes.
Will you always be addicted to the drug and your everyday existance revolves around the habitual high you get from the drug???
Kind of pitifull really."
That's attacking the messanger and not the message, plain and simple. You are utilizing a hypothetical without stating it as such. Here's how it works.
Will you always be ignorant of the facts, your everyday existence is not a lucid one, but one of foolish ignorance.
Kind of pathetic don't you think?
Is that a personal attack? What do you think?
Then comsider the flip flops of the field.
Fluoride As A "Therapeutic" Neurotoxin?
Now that it has been established that fluoride (F) exposure contributes to the calcification of the pineal gland, the question remains: what are the subjective affects of these tissue changes to those who undergo them?
Prozac may represent an archetypal example of how fluoride affects the personality/soul. This drug (chemical name fluoxetine) is approximately 30% fluoride by weight and marketed as an "antidepressant," even while a major side effect of its use and/or withdrawal is suicidal depression. Modern psychiatry often treats depressive disorders - the "dark night of the soul" - as an organic disorder of the brain, targeting serotonin reuptake by any chemical means necessary. Fluoride and fluoxetine, in fact, may accomplish their intended "therapeutic effects" by poisoning the pineal gland. Animal studies confirm that when mice have their pineal glands removed they no longer respond to fluoxetine. Source
Perhaps the primary reason why Prozac causes a favorable reaction in those who are treated (poisoned) with it, is that it disassociates that person from the psychospiritual conflicts that they must normally suppress in order to maintain the appearance of sanity and functionality in society, i.e. it is control and not health that is the goal of such "treatment."
If Prozac and other sources of fluoride in our environment deposits within the pineal gland, accelerating the transformation of functional pineal tissue into calcification, is it possible that it works by dehumanizing and flattening the affect of those who are under its influence?
http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/fluoride-calcifier-soul
BROUGHT TO YOU by the "L-AWFUL" entities of corporate power. Government enForced medication via drinking water.
"I could try to smoke some marijuana and learn if it relieves me of my pain and discomfort but I am 99.99 % sure that the marijuana is not going to address the associated problem with the knee itself...rather the marijuana is going to simply relieve me of the discomfort and make me feel comfortable and at ease with the condition."
See how you are ignorant of the proper use of cannabis. You could simply use a cannabis salve, That would make the pain go away and you wouldn't have to smoke at all.
"I take the formula and the condition "does go away" because the ingredients are part of the associated knee function and relative to the associated problems of cartilage degeneration."
Well is that formula really essential?
"I envison all the more people turning to marijauna to solve their medical conditions when that is not the correct way to address the medical condition and solve the associated problems of the condition."
You can envision whatever you want, thats not going to make it true.
"It will become way to easy for people to smoke some marijuana and then claim they feel better while stoned on the marijauna while not correctly addressing the root of the problem."
Pure speculation, and all that would be able to be addressed if cannabis was legal.
" envision legal medical marijuana becoming just one more quick fix drug used and recommended by people and or physicians to relieve people of what ails them rather than understanding that there are better natural choices and or lifestyle choices that can eliminate the problems or relieve the patient of the problems but not by way of a drug effect type of substance administered to the patient."
Cannabis is natural, been used thousands of years, envision all you want, but please take reality into account.
"Once the drug becomes part of the mainstream medicinal products available for consumers to choose you can be assured it will be misused and abused and corrupted and touted as a cure all for what ever ails you rather than practising better health and better lifestyle choices."
Thats right no drug will change peoples choices, which is counter to what you have been stating.
"The scam artists and con men are waiting in the shadows for this one to become a regular mainstrem medicine to be sold to the public."
You mean like hundreds of years ago when it was legal and was commonly accepted as a medicine? They wouldn't be called scam artists and con men if they push something that actually helps.
"If it is proven that specific elements derived from cannabis can be applied to the patients medical condition then then I would support it, of course."
That is the whole problem with Mode-earn drugs. They are not natural, they are refined substances which are not complete. Marinol is the perfect example of a failed pharmaceutical that tries to mimick a natural herbs potency.
"Anyhow...if it is drug you can expect good intentions to run amuck more so than most other substances."
Any time money is involved we can be sure there will be problems.
For the Love of money is the root of all evil.
Welcome to mode-earn society.
"As I said I am 99.99 % certain that marijuana taken in any way is not going to address the core problems associated with the knee joint degeneration."
Well you are ignorant of the facts then.
"For relief of the pain...to make the pain go away ...while consuming the marijuana in any way and while stoned, very well could be used to make the pain go away but I know for sure marijuana is not a cartilage support and cartilage generation substance that is going to reverse the condition.
Other substances have been proven to address the core problem..not mask the problem and cover it with pain killing abilities."
You are wrong on this one.
Arthritis
Arthritis refers to any more than 100 inflammatory joint disorders characterized by pain, swelling, and limited movement. Arthritis involves the inflammation and degeneration of cartilage and bone that make up the joint. Experts estimate that more than 31 million people in the United States alone suffer from various degrees of the disease. Common forms of arthritis are osteoarthritis and rheumatoid arthritis. Emerging evidence implies that cannabis can help alleviate symptoms of both conditions.
Cannabis' pain reducing properties are well documented and emerging evidence indicates that it holds anti-inflammatory qualities. Dale Gieringer, author of the paper "Review of Human Studies on the Medical Use of Marijuana," cites three animal and laboratory studies documenting cannabis' potential anti-inflammatory effects. In addition, a 1988 study by an British research team found the cannabinoid CBD (cannabidiol) ameliorated inflammation in mice.
More ignorance.
"I dont need to be stoned on pot all the time or any other drug while seeking to remedy a common condition."
Cannabis salve doesn't get you stoned. Enjoy your degeneration.
"I imagine you consume marijuana for everything that ails you and I imagine you recommmend it to everyone as a means to cure their ailments."
You may as well smoke pot if you are going to have a delusional imagination like that.
"While the drug helps you in certain aspects of your condition it could also be causing problems in other aspects but in your mind the drug can do no harm so any negative side effects that could be developing or maybe exist at present are not to be recognised and simply ignored.
You have self diagnosed yourself and proclaimed that marijuana is the ONLY substance that can resolve your medical problems and there is no need now to look any further for other possible choices."
More delusional rhetoric, you have no idea about what I do. Your making this all up in your mind.
"You carry on taking your wonder drug called marijuana and I will carry on taking substances that do not have a drug like, intoxicating effect on me after I take the drug"
Cannabis salve does not have an intoxicating effect.
"What I take is not a drug but what you take, although it works for you, is still classified as a drug and always will be and the scientific community is not going to be persuaded by you and your arguement that the marijuana you consume is NOT a drug...just because "befurther" says so and the pot heads of the world attempt to convince us it is not a drug."
I am not concerned with what the priest/scientists believe and the scientific community is basically run by money grubbing control freaks who are concerned with the bottom line. You can consider it to be a drug, I consider it to be a unique substance with its own use, which is far more scientific a stance then a general term "drugs" that lacks a definitive meaning.
"I asked before: Why do you not consume the commercial kind of hemp that does not have the intoxicating abilities."
I do consume hemp seed oil and protein, and it is all part of the proper consumption of cannabis.
"There is a very good chance the elements found in the commercial variety of hemp are the same elements found in the intoxicating variety of hemp."
Yeah well, the THC and CBD content is not as concentrated in the industrial hemp. Also the industrial hemp strains are grown for specific use, for example certian varieties are better for rope and clothing. Regardless it is not legal to grow industrial hemp in the US, so it is virtually impossible to obtain unprocessed hemp seeds in their whole form. Which would be ideal to benefit from its raw state.
"I surmize the reason is: You like the "high"."
I already told you I don't get "high". But not surprisingly you are now ignoring what I said. That is mighty "lucid" of you.
"You like the intoxication that marijuana consumption gives you and even if you did not have the medical condition you have then you would be one of that percent of citizens that likes to be stoned / intoxicated all the time any how."
You don't know me. And you are drawing your own delusional conclusion.
"Go ahead...I choose to live a drug free life and live without being intoxicated all the time on a drug substance and do not support or advocate the use of drugs...any drugs and especially the ones that are classified as illegal recreational drugs."
Sure you are "drug free", I don't believe that for a second. You even admitted you eat chocolate.
"Have I taken the available pharmaceutical drugs over the years?
Yes, as they are available but I would rather not take them and I would rather try to find other choices and yes , if I had to choose marijuana over most of the nasty pharmacuetical drugs then I may consider marijuana."
See! I told you, you weren't "drug free" Good job contradicting yourself within a sentence.
"However if the pharmeceutical drugs did not intoxicate me the way that I know marijuana will intoxicate me I may very well decide to take the pharmaceutical drugs.
I dont want to be high / stoned / intoxicated by any substance that I ingest for any medical condition that I may have or could have."
OK.........That is nice, you could always get runners high, by running long distances. Or you could get high off your adrenaline if a car almost runs you over. Or if you are going to make an arrest you might get an adrenaline rush like police do.
"My first choice will be living a heathier lifestyle including excersising"
You should exercise your spelling. Then when you are done, you can go get high off of you endorphins you get from exercising.
"including changing my diet and or first trying Vitamin and Mineral supplements and or all the hundreds of non drug kinds of natural remedies( non intoxicating) including products that originate from the hemp plant, which I have bought and consumed before such as hemp oil and hemp powders."
Anything, even the vitamins and minerals you take can be intoxicating if you take them improperly. Therefore according to your "non intoxicating" reasoning, they are drugs as well. Hemp oil and hemp protein contain minute amounts of THC as well, so you do take drugs, contradicting your statement above once again.
"Those hemp products do not come with the intoxication effect."
Only because they have low THC levels. Regardless Hemp is still illegal to grow in the US. All because of the draconian drug laws and fascist control freaks in power.
"Yes I want to be ....drug free, without the intoxcity!"
Intoxicity isn't even technically a word...seems to me your messages are talk-sick.
"Why would Marijuana as a legal drug substance not also be utilized that same as other drugs that people want and use for a quick fix.
You explain to me exactly why it would not, to an extent, be used that way and believed to be a "cure all" and quick fix like so many other drugs that are touted and used as such.
Why…because you say so?"
That's not the point, the point is to be able to use natural herbs without a fascist government and a bunch of control freaks trying to tell people what is best for them. It's called free choice.
"You can assure me that is not going to happen at all?"
HUH?
"I know differently from researching it on the internet."
I know differently from personal experience.
"Cannabis is also a drug! The consumption rate of the drug back then as compared to the volumes consumed now were far less in times gone past and it was far less potent in times gone past."
Prove it! More speculation.
"The new potency is stated and confirmed by many of the pro drug websites and the anti drug websites."
Those studies are flawed and I have already pointed out why.
"Not to say it does not have any medical benefits, I know marijuana has numerous medical benefits but once it becomes legal then why would there be a need to have it regulated as a medical substance when you can simply go buy it in its various strengths from the many legal suppliers selling it for recreational uses."
Those doctor/priests shouldn't have a monopoly on peoples health. I have done the research and know the health benefits, I don't need a doctor to try and tell me what to do. And neither does any one else with knowledge.
"How is your new system going to account for the medicinal aspects of marijuana after it is legalized verses the recreational use of the drug."
The same way it worked when it was legal in the past.
"If marijuana is to also be sold as a medical substance, will it have to be supplied and sold separately from the same drug that is being sold as a recreational substance??
What is your answer to that?"
It will be sold as the substance that it is, a natural herb. Just like cayenne, chocolate, or nutmeg.
"Your know it all answer to that will be interesting to read. Explain what is it that will stop anyone that wants it for medical purposes from simply getting it from the recreational purposes suppliers."
Hey it's their choice, they live on this planet and they aren't hurting anyone by taking natural herbs. Why are their so many control freaks that want to lord over people with their ignorance? It's going to be interesting to hear, The know it all response to that question.
"You explain to me in detail why those that are legally allowed to sell marijuana would be or should be allowed to advertise its known or supposed health and medical benefits and why they should not be restricted with laws or rules relative to how it is promoted and advertised as such??"
Why bother?
"No……it will have to be based on scientific research and proof and until the public buys into that proof and or the governments and people in positions of accountability and authority are convinced the product is safe "eneough" as a medicinal substance for mass consumption, then that aspect of marijuana consumption will remain in question."
The substance has been used for THOUSANDS OF YEARS! Plenty of knowledge already available. Sorry you do not accept that knowledge, but it is all well known and documented.
"If they do want to promote it or sell it as a legal, scientifically proven medicinal substance then the substance will certainly have to come under the FDA rules and regulations."
We should get rid of the FDA. It is corrupt to the core.
"You may say: Nope, it won’t go that way but I would be willing to put my money where my mouth is and that is what will happen."
Exactly, even when it becomes, seemingly legal it will still be manipultaed by the "nefarious" and "lucid" people that get into government. The control freaks that claim they are "lucid".
"The FDA will not allow you or any company to advertise and or sell it as a "medicinal substance or medicinal value product""
Ultimately people should strive for inter-independence, where we all help one another become independent, so we don't have to rely on so-called "authorities" or "experts" that try to hold a monopoly onliving life in their control freak mentality.
"If you do you will be in violation of all kinds of rules and regulations and laws and the penalties are surprisingly harsh.
It is not an approved product by the FDA and they enforce their rulings."
Oh no! They are going to continue to try and persecute me with their continued injustice, I never expected that!(sarc)
"Also...if some of the consumption of the drug is to be used specifically for medical purposes then how is that going to work when it is legal to walk into any place that sells it legally for recreational purposes that can supply the same marijuana to be used for medical purposes???"
Remember how it used to be legal all those years ago....same thing, it will work the same.
"I AM NOT TAKING ANY SIDES ON THIS PARTICULAR ASPECT OF THE DEBATE ..."
That is a lie, according to your former messages.
"I AM JUST POINTING OUT ONE MORE VERY LARGE PROBLEM THAT WILL BE ALL THE MORE OF A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE CONCERNING LEGALISED MARIJUANA RELATIVE TO ITS STATED TO BE MEDICAL USES AND THE FDA POSITION."
Wouldn't be a problem if it was really legal.
"YOU CAN NOT EXPECT IT TO BE LEGALLY SOLD AS A MEDICINE UNTIL IT IS SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN TO BE AND ACCEPTED AS SUCH BY THE FDA, REGARDLESS OF THE MANY EXISTING SCIENTIFIC STUDIES THAT PROVE IT HAS CONFIRMED MEDICINAL USES.
IF YOU CAN NOT GET THE APPROVAL OF THE FDA THEN IT WILL NOT BE ALOWED TO BE ADVERTISED, PROMOTED OR SOLD AS A MEDICAL SUBSTANCE.
IF YOU ARE DEALLING WITH THE FDA THEN THE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND LAWS MAY BE FAR MORE OF A HEADACHE THAN THEY ARE WORTH, SO MAYBE, BETTER IT REMAINS ILLEGAL IN THAT RESPECT"
FDA should be shut down it is corrupt.
"I can assure you not all will be well in the world of legalized marijuana consumption and I envision the pot heads and habitual consumers of pot in the future complaining about legal marijuana consumption and reminiscing about the “good old days†before legalization and angry about all the a**ho**s that had it legalized when it was just fine the way it used to be."
More baseless speculation.
"Do you live in the past or do you live in the year 2011.
What happened in the past is not always significantly relevant to what is happening now."
But in this case it is relevant.
"The legal substance known as marijuana will also be prey to the low lives and crooks that will market the products with all kinds of hype and promotion and take the money and run."
At least it will be able to be addressed in a legal forum at that point. A step in the right direction, that is for sure.
"If you can derive certain elements from the cannabis plant(s) and use them for medicinal purposes, without the drug effects (intoxication) then there is no real argument against the use of cannabis derived medicinal products."
It is already well known that it can be done naturally with minimal processing. One way is to make cannabis salve, which lessens the intoxicating effects new users feel. Another way which works and lacks the effects of "intoxication" I have mentioned before it is laid out at
http://phoenixtears.ca/
"Again, where will marijuana fit into the scheme of things as a medicinal product and or a recreational product??"
As a natural herb would be ideal. However we know that the control freaks won't allow that.
"Well…..as I pointed out before…drug money is some of the most sinister money around and I would not be so quick to use that Phrase:
For the love of money is the root of all evil"
"Drug money" is a loaded term. To evil people that lust for money, it matters not the source, only the quantity. To them Money is money.
"However, when it comes to the illegal drugs then the drug money or the money from drugs attracts the most nefarious nasty types more so than other money making enterprises."
The nastiest people are the ones that are above the law, they work in intelligence agancies, and they selectively enforce the "law" on whoever they want. They send young men to foreign countries to kill innocents and control poppy and oil fields. They inject people with experimental vaccines in the name of science. They slaughter people with unmanned aerial vehicles. They chop off peoples limbs for being part of a different tribe. These are nefarious people you deem "lucid" because they do not seemingly take "drugs".
"Even when the drug is legal I would confidently surmize it still attracts more sinister types than other legal businesses.
You can disagree if you want and I near expect you to anyhow."
Absolutely I disagree, because what you have stated is unfounded and lacks a back bone.