What should I do? I called Ortho MD on call and he wants me to go to ER. That wound on my leg looks infected today and a smelly odor is coming from it. I think the paper towel and masking tape I put on it daily infected it. MD says he thinks I need to be on anti biotics for this, or I could possibly lose my leg. He wants me to go to the ER.
I put Turmeric on it. I have garlic and cayenne too. Can I heal this myself or is it too risky?
I'm so sorry Joe! I just posted the slippery elm poultice to you in another thread, I've had the window open all morning and didn't check the forum until after I made that post.
Only you can make the decision of going to the ER, but I can tell you what I would do if it were me. I don't remember if you said you were out of Echinacea or not but I would start taking lots and lots of Echinacea and garlic. I'd take it every couple of hours or so if it were me and I'd also put the Echinacea tincture directly onto the wound and I would not (edited) be covering it up with a paper towel.
I cut out one part of a post Uny had made about the SE poultice for your other post but she also talked about taking care of an infection internally in that same post, so here is what she said: curezone.com/forums/fm.asp
I once helped a gal that had a botched breast removal, that had required massive skin grafts. One of the areas where a graft was taken (on her thigh) was infected almost identically to what you are describing about your aunt (red, hot, inflamed, oozing fluids & pieces). Antibiotics? no benefit. Internal & external Colloidal Silver? Temporary results (and in her case, diarrhea from the disruption/death of the gut flora). Application of some type of 'anti-infection goop' & special bandage from doctor? The oozing pus just 'pushed it off'
Here's what we did -
--#1 4-8 droppersful of a *quality* (MUST be organic!!) Echinacea tincture, 4x daily (you can get this from our Herbal Apothecary here:http://marketplaceadvisor.channeladvisor.com/StoreFrontProfiles/DeluxeSFItemD...
(4oz for $30) or on the 'net from Dr. Schulze, Health Freedom Resources (2 oz for $28) or Herb Pharm). Echinacea is (most people don't know this) a "specific" for staph infections (likely what this is), but even if the infection is not 'staph', Echinacea bolsters the immune system (incredibly effectively). How strongly does Echinacea bolster the immune system? Native Americans used it regularly to beat rattlesnake bites and rabies.
--#2 Raw Garlic - 3-6 cloves of organic garlic daily. Some (few) can chew a clove - but the easiest way to get it down is to chop it finely and mix it with 1-2 'gulps worth' of juice (Tierra recently found that mixing hers with coconut oil made it very easy to get down). Garlic is THE strongest and most effective antibacterial, antiviral, antifungal & antiparasital agent on the planet). It has been used for centuries to beat the most severe of infection (throughout WWI/WWII it was used extensively 'in the field' when antibiotics weren't available).
--So with the garlic/echinacea duo, we've got the internal battle won.
Can I heal this myself or is it too risky? The answer to part one of this question is a resounding YES, you CAN heal this yourself, without a doubt! My answer to the second part of this question is, everyone has to decide what the risk really is. For me, the risk would be putting my precious body into the hands of anyone in the medical profession, without a doubt. For me, there would be no option but to heal it myself.
Blessings,
Willow
hey Joe--
"and I probably didn't remember to wash my hands before I touched it and picked at it, and then I wrapped it in non sterile new clean paper towel"
yeh. You know you did not take adequate care of yourself, so no need to harp on that.
"Can I pass on the Anti Bs?"
well, you know, I would. But that's me, at the age of 54, knowing what I NOW know. But unless I hear you saying you are doing EFT, OR that you have regained your trust in your own deserved well-being, and the countless beings who are supporting you to be well, seen and unseen; then, maybe you ARE among the few that are actually suffering from an AntiB deficiency. Kidding with you.!!!
"That Ortho MD hung up on me, he said I was "arguing with him". I asked him if I could take garlic and cayenne instead of oral Anti Bs."
yeh--I experience that same thing when I was "arguing" with n MD about the pros and cons of Prednisone, on top of other meds.
I've never heard if you realize (or remember?) that I have been in a hospital/rehab situation with my partner all summer... and have seen a lot. To be honest, you almost always sound like you can't see beyond your own situation. I say this ONLY to tell/remind you, MD's pick up on that, and they rely on that blinkered fear state to bully people.
(and protect the MD society, etc...)
And frankly, it IS bullying, although they are not aware of it, being themselves a part
of the Big Machine... so yes, "arguing" is what it's called, when you question authority.
Edit: where I'm at now is I CAN'T make anyone else 'bad' or wrong', without making myself wrong too--nd all the Best I can imgine nd take refuge in--So, let's send love, okay,
to everyone we come across. And go a little further, even. I don't mean in stupid, wishy way, but in a real, proven way. May I recommend a book here--? a very 'grounded' book called The Diamond Cutter, by Michel Roach. Check it out...
end edit.
I'm glad you missed your cats in ER--they are playing the part of emissaries of the True-- and the good. And they need you, to be able to learn more from them, and set the world where it belongs. :-)
So, get well soon!!!
One clove of garlic is good, but try five or six. Try the Master Tonic, if you have it. I have kept all super bugs at bay all summer, and it has been stressful. I keep spooning the stuff onto rice, or bits of bread.
Please don't think I am chastising you, btw, or criticizing. (I know, too, at elast I know a little of what it is to be 'in the throes' of dis-ease. and meds and so on...)
I just -personally- say No to doctors. (Oh, but I'd love to be sitting at the 'same table', if such a thing could ever happen!) And it's been quite the education to ba among them, and physio people, nd "patients", and "nurses" all summer. (Hey, Remember the mindless "war on drugs" commercials? Substitute unknowing MDs--and, God Bless them--they need it.)
Joe,
Garlic is likely THE strong antiobiotic on the planet (it even beats the 'superbugs')...but you have to take enough of it to make sure it's effective. I suggest at least 6 cloves (minced) daily. I'd take them 2 at time 3x daily, but you can 'get them in' however it works best for you.
Expect some GI "urpy burpy" (if you're not used to taking that much) since you know you have liver/GI issues There's many (many!) great benefits to garlic (it's very beneficial for your liver/HPC)
>>>That Ortho MD hung up on me, he said I was "arguing with him". I asked him if I could take garlic and cayenne instead of oral Anti Bs.<<< We must ALWAYS remember our "Dr. Schulzisms" (why would we ask an allopathic MD that has zero herbal knowledge/training about 'herbs'?). Besides, talking with an MD about herbs & natural healing is like getting into a belching match with a hog...you will always annoy the hog; you will always lose, and you will always (always!) end up covered in hog schitt & slop.
Also, cayenne internally (at this point) is basically for the great circulation (so yes, you want to take it to circulate the garlic-containing blood to the wound). Cayenne IS anti-bacterial, but I wouldn't depend upon it to be a strong antibacterial force (taken internally) for an external wound.
Info on the pharmaceutical you mentioned below.
Blessings,
Uny
The data below is taken from a pay-site for practitioners called eHealthMe. This site compiles ACTUAL data from actual adverse effects reported directly to the FDA. The FDA officially states that only 1 in 100 adverse effects are ever reported, so you can multiply the numbers in the data below by 100 for a clear picture.
The results below (when the numbers are multiplied by 100) give a fairly clear picture of the adverse effects...but it doesn't show the myriad of negative events that happen within the body to bring about the symptoms.
Name | Number of reports | |
1 | Nausea | 596 |
2 | Pain | 523 |
3 | Vomiting (Nausea and vomiting) | 484 |
4 | Vomiting Nos (Nausea and vomiting) | 474 |
5 | Headache | 452 |
6 | Headache Nos | 450 |
7 | Anxiety (Stress and anxiety) | 446 |
8 | Dyspnoea (Breathing difficulty) | 439 |
9 | Dyspnoea Nos (Breathing difficulty) | 432 |
10 | Fatigue | 431 |
11 | Diarrhoea (Diarrhea) | 423 |
12 | Diarrhoea Nos (Diarrhea) | 416 |
13 | Pyrexia (Fever) | 403 |
14 | Asthenia (Weakness) | 397 |
15 | Rash (Rashes) | 385 |
16 | Anaemia | 381 |
17 | Erythema (Rashes) | 372 |
18 | Dizziness | 331 |
19 | Chest Pain | 310 |
20 | Arthralgia (Joint pain) | 301 |
21 | Depression | 301 |
22 | Abdominal Pain | 285 |
23 | Abdominal Pain Nos | 284 |
24 | Haemorrhage | 265 |
25 | Pneumonia | 264 |
26 | Hypertension (High blood pressure) | 259 |
27 | Drug Ineffective | 255 |
28 | Back Pain | 235 |
29 | Dehydration | 214 |
30 | Insomnia | 209 |
31 | Weight Decreased | 209 |
32 | Cough | 203 |
33 | Fall | 197 |
34 | Abdominal Pain Upper | 196 |
35 | Oedema Peripheral | 196 |
36 | Hypoaesthesia | 193 |
37 | Condition Aggravated | 190 |
38 | Hypotension | 186 |
39 | Renal Failure Acute | 183 |
40 | Injury | 180 |
41 | Urinary Tract Infection | 178 |
42 | Drug Interaction | 173 |
43 | Abortion Incomplete | 164 |
44 | Myalgia (Muscle aches) | 164 |
45 | Bone Disorder | 163 |
46 | Muscle Spasms | 159 |
47 | Pain In Extremity | 156 |
48 | Malaise | 153 |
49 | Sinusitis | 152 |
50 | Infection | 152 |
51 | Confusional State | 151 |
52 | Paraesthesia | 149 |
53 | Sepsis | 146 |
54 | Osteonecrosis | 143 |
55 | Constipation | 142 |
56 | Memory Impairment (Memory loss) | 142 |
57 | Haemoglobin Decreased | 138 |
58 | Emotional Distress | 138 |
59 | Bronchitis | 137 |
60 | Weight Increased | 136 |
61 | Renal Failure (Acute kidney failure) | 135 |
62 | Pruritus (Itching) | 133 |
63 | Somnolence (Drowsiness) | 130 |
64 | Hypersensitivity | 129 |
65 | Suicidal Ideation | 128 |
66 | Tooth Extraction | 122 |
67 | Thrombocytopenia | 117 |
68 | Atrial Fibrillation (Atrial fibrillation/flutter) | 112 |
69 | Dyspepsia (Indigestion) | 111 |
70 | Syncope (Fainting) | 111 |
71 | Convulsion | 109 |
72 | Cardiac Failure Congestive | 109 |
73 | Gastrooesophageal Reflux Disease | 109 |
74 | Diabetes Mellitus (Diabetes) | 108 |
75 | Deep Vein Thrombosis (Deep venous thrombosis) | 107 |
76 | Tremor | 107 |
77 | Dysphagia (Swallowing difficulty) | 107 |
78 | Pain In Jaw | 101 |
79 | Cellulitis | 100 |
80 | Pleural Effusion | 99 |
81 | Staphylococcal Infection | 99 |
82 | Neuropathy Peripheral | 97 |
83 | Decreased Appetite (Appetite - decreased) | 96 |
84 | Feeling Abnormal | 96 |
85 | Menorrhagia | 95 |
86 | Pregnancy (Birth control) | 94 |
87 | Vision Blurred | 94 |
88 | Palpitations (Heart palpitations) | 93 |
89 | Inflammatory Bowel Disease | 93 |
90 | General Physical Health Deterioration | 92 |
91 | International Normalised Ratio Increased | 91 |
92 | Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease | 87 |
93 | Epistaxis (Nosebleed) | 86 |
94 | Alopecia (Hair loss) | 85 |
95 | Haemorrhoids | 85 |
96 | Gait Disturbance | 84 |
97 | Spinal Osteoarthritis | 84 |
98 | Myocardial Infarction (Heart attack) | 84 |
99 | Anorexia | 83 |
100 | White Blood Cell Count Decreased | 82 |
Name | Number of reports | |
1 | Nausea | 4 |
2 | Myalgia (Muscle aches) | 3 |
3 | Muscle Pain (Muscle aches) | 3 |
4 | Muscle Aches | 3 |
5 | Abdominal Pain | 3 |
6 | Abdominal Pain Nos | 3 |
7 | Headache | 3 |
8 | Urticaria | 3 |
9 | Vomiting (Nausea and vomiting) | 3 |
10 | Arthralgia (Joint pain) | 3 |
11 | Stomach Discomfort | 3 |
12 | Lack Of Strength, Muscle Weakness, Weakness (Weakness) | 2 |
13 | Gallbladder Non-functioning | 2 |
14 | Diarrhoea (Diarrhea) | 2 |
15 | Asthenia (Weakness) | 2 |
16 | Drug Interaction | 2 |
17 | Erosive Oesophagitis | 2 |
18 | Diarrhoea Nos (Diarrhea) | 2 |
19 | Haemorrhoids | 2 |
20 | Sensory Disturbance | 2 |
21 | Hiatus Hernia (Hiatal hernia) | 2 |
22 | Ileitis (Crohn's disease) | 2 |
23 | Pain | 2 |
24 | Gastrointestinal Disorder | 2 |
25 | Gastroduodenitis | 2 |
26 | Vision Blurred | 2 |
27 | Loss Of Sensation, Numbness And Tingling, Paresthesias, Sensory Loss, Tingling And Numbness (Numbness and tingling) | 2 |
28 | Euphoric Mood | 1 |
29 | Heart Rate Increased | 1 |
30 | Raised Lfts | 1 |
31 | Lethargic | 1 |
32 | Sweating | 1 |
33 | Restlessness (Agitation) | 1 |
34 | Levaquin | 1 |
35 | Aggression | 1 |
36 | Weight Gain (Weight increased) | 1 |
37 | Severe Headaches | 1 |
38 | Paraesthesia | 1 |
39 | Ringing In The Ears (Tinnitus) | 1 |
40 | Muscle Contractions Involuntary | 1 |
41 | Bone And Joint Pain | 1 |
42 | Exacerbation Of Anxiety | 1 |
43 | Oesophageal Pain | 1 |
44 | Doxycline | 1 |
45 | Anglique | 1 |
46 | Mitral Valve Prolapse | 1 |
47 | Exhaustion, Fatigue, Lethargy, Tiredness, Weariness (Fatigue) | 1 |
48 | Depression | 1 |
49 | Tendonitis | 1 |
50 | Glaucoma | 1 |
51 | Accolate - 10mg | 1 |
52 | Poor Peripheral Circulation | 1 |
53 | Carbidopa And Levodopa | 1 |
54 | Foreign Body Trauma | 1 |
55 | Heat Exhaustion | 1 |
56 | Body Aches | 1 |
57 | Urine Flow Decreased | 1 |
58 | Abdominal Discomfort | 1 |
59 | Nausea, | 1 |
60 | Urticaria Acute | 1 |
61 | Impaired Work Ability | 1 |
62 | Exercise Tolerance Decreased | 1 |
63 | Glomerular Filtration Rate Decreased | 1 |
64 | Polyneuropathy Nos | 1 |
65 | Sweating Decreased | 1 |
66 | Hypersensitivity | 1 |
67 | Chest Pain | 1 |
68 | Blood Bilirubin Increased | 1 |
69 | Pulmonary Embolism | 1 |
70 | Respiratory Failure (Respiratory acidosis) | 1 |
71 | Rib Fracture | 1 |
72 | Erythema (Rashes) | 1 |
73 | Anaemia | 1 |
74 | Confusional State | 1 |
75 | Pruritus (Itching) | 1 |
76 | Rash Nos (Rashes) | 1 |
77 | Dyspnoea (Breathing difficulty) | 1 |
78 | Multiple Sclerosis | 1 |
79 | Cardiac Disorder | 1 |
80 | Somnolence (Drowsiness) | 1 |
81 | Aphasia (Speech impairment (adult)) | 1 |
82 | Mobility Decreased | 1 |
83 | Oesophagitis | 1 |
84 | Swelling Nos | 1 |
85 | Liver Injury | 1 |
86 | Shaking | 1 |
87 | Blood Glucose Fluctuation | 1 |
88 | Tremor | 1 |
89 | Heart Pounding (Heart palpitations) | 1 |
90 | Constipation | 1 |
91 | Renal Disorder | 1 |
92 | Blood Urea Increased | 1 |
93 | Hypoxia | 1 |
94 | Hyperglycaemia (Hyperglycemia) | 1 |
95 | Hypoglycaemia (Hypoglycemia) | 1 |
96 | Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease | 1 |
97 | Alanine Aminotransferase Increased | 1 |
98 | Wheezing | 1 |
99 | Haematochezia | 1 |
100 | Dizziness | 1 |
If gold seal and other herbs make SE poultice anti septic, which, I think removes the possiblity of infection, right?
Nothing compares to Slippery Elm as an emollient herb used for poultices. Dr. Christopher’s well-known poultices for abscesses, boils and even gangrene use Slippery Elm paste as a main ingredient. A paste is made by moistening the powdered bark with a small amount of hot water or raw milk. Poultices vary according to what herbs are added to a Slippery Elm paste. To avoid complications with Slippery Elm poultices, make sure the bark granules do not heal into an open wound as it closes. Sometimes it is better to use an antiseptic infusion such as a wash several times a day until a wound closes and apply the thicker poultice after danger of contamination is over.
An antiseptic poultice good for old gangrenous wounds is prepared by mixing an infusion of wormwood with equal parts of very fine charcoal and Slippery Elm powder. This antiseptic poultice is applied over the affected area and reapplied until the condition clears. Another poultice used to prevent a wound from festering takes brewer’s yeast or baking yeast stirred into Slippery Elm powder and moistened with new, raw milk. Mrs. M. Grieve’s “Compound Bran Poultice is made by mixing hot vinegar, equal quantities of wheaten Bran with Slippery Elm powder.” It is used externally over affected areas as needed for severe rheumatism, gout, joints, synovitis, etc.
Simply adding an antiseptic herb such as plantain and or goldenseal powder to a Slippery Elm poultice makes it antiseptic. It proves to be the best carrier for any herb when used as a poultice.