What is your connection to the company? Commissioned sales?


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I just wanted to let people know that my sleep is better and that I can fall back to sleep easier since drinking the JELWM water again.

Also, I was again for the first few days had a cleansing type effect going on but as of today everything has normalized. I am just about out of water and will need to make some more.

>- the pH of the distilled water was 6.5 neutral it is not acidic or alkaline.

pH 6.5 is absolutely and definitely ACIDIC.

pH 7.0 is neutral by definition.

Maybe next time you'll do a test involving "good science", instead of giving us anecdotal evidence from one person (you). Good Science involves things like, oh, let's say, a double blind study of 50 people, (half who have done the john ellis water regimen and half who didn't) might be considered "good science" but your anecdote only tells me you have convinced yourself that the water helps you. This is what is known as "The Placebo Effect, and Big Pharma has made billions and billions of dollars off of these placebos, (the SSRI anti- Depression meds are the biggest scam in the drug industry today) so why should people like john ellis miss out on the big bucks that these corporate liars are raking in? Did you get any medical help from a real doctor in the year or so that you went without this wonderful water? Gee, maybe that helped, or maybe your symptoms subsided because of other factors that you don't understand. Let me tell you about a conversation I had with my sister-in-law. She is a big proponent of that supplement that you take before getting on an airplane, (I've forgotten the name) and it supposedly helps prevent you catching a cold or flu bug, and it was "invented by a teacher". I asked her how she knew it worked. She said "because I have never caught a cold on an airplane since I started taking it". Then I asked her how many times she had caught a cold on an airplane before she took the supplement, and she refused to give me an answer. Gee, I wonder why. Incidentally, the scam artist (the "teacher")that invented the product had to pay millions of dollars in fines for lying in his advertising. Did he go to prison? hell, no. He's made over a hundred million dollars off of his lies, and the fines were just the cost of doing business. Just because john ellis hasn't been convicted yet doesn't mean he isn't an accomplished liar. Medical "cures" are the easiest scams to get away with because it's so hard to prove the lie, and apparently john ellis has figured this out. He makes claims that the water has been tested by a school of medicine, and Dole foods, yet he provides no proof of these claims on his site. He writes in an odd style, with whole sentences where all the letters are capitalized, as if he has to yell at you to get his message across. I've seen that kind of sentence composition on Conspiracy sites, and people who write that way always sound unhinged. His sentences drift on, don't even make sense at times, and I wonder if he's suffering from dementia or something similar. He's fond of hanging up on complainers who say his product doesn't work, so apparently he can't defend his statements or he wouldn't hang up on unsatisfied customers. It sounds to me as if he's made a fortune off of desperate people ready to believe anything.

How do you start a new topic on this site? I can't find where to click and I have a used LWM4 for sale that I want to let folks know about.

Ive had a much different experience,

John Ellis Water Machine Experiment

Wed. Day 1 Prepared for first run February 22th 2012

Thurs. Day2 Made first batch in small 375ml bottles approx. 16 Feb 23

Fri. Day3 Handed out one each to PaulB,and JoanB, PaulS and MikeS, Hansi, Tony, Oma, Toby, Thomas, Leslie so far three with metallic aftertaste experience, four I did not witness first taste

Sat. Day4 Made another batch approx. 11 L distillate, brought upstairs and filled container for drinking water regular use, filled cat dish also for first time. Noticed urine flow stronger, also sex better than usual!

Sun. Day5 Drinking water regularly, water makes me feel fuller in the stomach. Dull ache in my head seems to be dissipating a little. This is great news as this ache has been an ongoing issue for years and in my opinion has kept me from thinking clearly and more intelligently for years. Urine flow even better.

Mon. Day6 Noticed I didn’t have to get up at night for a bathroom visit. Normal routine was just about every night. Mind feels, “clearer”. Whatever blockage I experience in the head has changed, for the better. However not 100% yet.

Tues. Day7 Mind feels, “clearer”. Whatever blockage I experience in the head has changed, for the better. However not 100% yet.

Wed. Day8 Urine flow is now what I would consider normal. Only when smoking does the flow revert to not as fast. Smoke one cigarette a day occasionally none.

Thurs Day9 Joey (8yr old Boxer) loves the water and drinks fully. Even more than usual. Both dogs on raw food and usual don’t require that much. Larry (8yr old Boston) drinks very little. Haven’t seen him drink yet. Dogs left for home.

Fri. Day10 All water for drinking is 100% Light distilled now. Previously mixed 50/50 with RO filtered (remineralized w coral calcium) water. Old cat(20+)refuses to drink. Only wants to drink from toilet. Trying to keep doors closed to toilets.

Sat. Day11 No changes in people. Perfected techniques that ensure water is properly distilled. First batches were run through to hot.

Sun Day12 Started giving water to Tia for lunch at school. Toby still wants apple juice. No obvious changes in kids or mum yet. All of us are in good health.

Mon Day14 All those I first gave water to had no positive feedback. Probably because of machine running to hot. Gave out more of the “good stuff”.

Tues Day 15 No changes, Taking all supplements with 100% distilled

Day 16 No Changes

Thur Day 17 No Changes

Friday Day 18 Spoke with most of the people I gave water to and most feel no difference. Others were insignificant

I continued drinking only John Ellis distilled water for a total of 3 months with no changes to diet. Approximately two months in I felt my joints aching more than usual. At 3 months my nails were brittle, joints ached incessantly and I felt as though my health was rapidly deteriorating. At this time I injured a tendon in my foot which still has not healed. Suspecting the water I started to add a high quality mineral solution back into the water(60PPM) and taking joint supplements. It is now mid July 2012 and I am having difficultyt getting back to normal health even after juicing for the last four weeks

My Opinion,

There are benefits to ingesting pure distilled water temporarily in order to flush out the urinary tract and body. Also the dull ache in my head has gotten better. However the distilled is leaching more minerals from the body especially from the skeletal structure than are being replaced through food. The rate this happens is dependant on the quality of food also. However I believe good food will only delay the onset of mineral depletion in the body.

Mr.Ellis’ water machine does not do what he claims it will. In my opinion 90% of the health claims made are outright lies.

Although distilled is easily available, distilled from a plastic container has already been compromised. Due to its solvent action large amounts of impurities are leached from the plastic that cannot be checked for with a TDS meter. In order to make pure colloidal solutions one needs to start with pure distilled water. I was unable to get the JE machine to produce pure enough water even when using RO water as a supply. The JE machine is a mediocre distiller at best. It has some quirks and I wouldn’t use it to treat extremely dirty water as it will let significant amounts of dissolved solids through. The UV light is good if you have bacteria in the water but I don’t think the LM-5 with two lights is worth the huge extra cost seeing as it will not make any more water per hour and is actually the exact same unit with two UV lamps.

So if you have a need for a water distiller I can’t recommend the John Ellis LM-4. If you are looking for a cure all water miracle you will have to look elsewhere. Also recombining both the overflow water and distilled is pointless. Why purify water only to recombine it with the same effluents you just distilled out.

The claims about water structuring is in my opinion pure marketing fantasy. I am of the opinion that the John Ellis Water Machine I tested is a fraud along with its’ inventor.

In Truth,

Thomas W. Boch

Hi,

It is now 2016, August to be more precise, and I am wondering how things are going with your John Ellis water machine. Have you had breakdowns? Parts replacements? Continued good health? All the controversy about this machine seems to have died down, but the praise has as well.

My best ~