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Here goes with another question - wonder where this one will lead.
Im on day 11, Ive followed everything to the book so far. I did three weeks juice feasting encorperating psyllium and Bentonite clay and enemas every other day or so before I started the MC. So far I have had relativly few detox symptoms on the MC. Im still not sure if the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) is working as well as it could be and Im not sure ive found my right level of salt yet to ingest. I seem to pass a lot less fluid than what goes in top end and its always taking 1 and a half to two hours to start coming out. The herbal tea has got me out of bed to have a BM every night except 2 (last night I slept right through with no noticabl cramping) mostly around 5 or 6 in the morning or just after Iv got up and started moving around but one night at 2 in the morning. This morning there was no BM from the tea the night before. On reading many other folks experiences I decided to try drinking around half a liter of water about 15 min before this mornings SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) to see if that would increase the flow through me. I did pass something of a similar consisency to what normally comes out first thing before the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) liquid but then nothing else after that. I had had two 20oz drinks so far and I was driving home from a friends house and started to feel a slight stomach cramp and slightly nausiouse. As I got home my mouth began to salavate profuseley as does when the body is preparing to wrech so I ran to the bathroom and went for it. Nothing came out at all but I brought up an enormous amount of gas that seemed to come from very deep down inside of me. This happened a few times and then I felt fine after that and the tummy ache went away. I drank lots of water after that and Im just drinking my next 20oz drink of the day now - tummy feels a little funny again. Im burping a lot.
Any light on the situation or anyone else experienced this sort of thing. Am I using too much cayenne perhaps (around 1 heaped teaspoon per 20oz drink). Was the gas from stuff that never got moved through properly this morning? How much should come out the other end - it certainly dosent feel like a liter to me.
Other than this everything is going really well and I was intending to continue to around 25 days when I judge the maple syrup will run out. Iv had slight aches in by back here and there which I assume comes from the kidneys which I also read to be common but nothing that lasts for any amount of time or difficult to live with. And I am pretty cold a lot of the time
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Gas generally comes from some sort of fermentation or rapid oxidation so something musta become dislodged and while making it's way out it was oxydating rapidly and causing all the gas not to mention that it's prolly toxic matter also thus making you feel sick and nauseous. You mention having done the BP shakes during your juice feast. The BPs are great at what they do but on a juice fast not having other solid matter to help push it out they can become very dehydrating not to mention absorbing a lot of the nutrition from what ever juices you are drinking unless you are very judicious and only do them one hr before or after your juices and then on top of that you hafta drink lots and lots of water because both of the highly absorptive nature of the B&P and to keep things well hydrated to push the stuff out. I mention all this cause if you weren't very judicious as I mentioned before according to Andreas Morrits the B can become plaster like when doing a liquid fast and could very be that you might have formed some kinda small blockage and you just turned loose some of it. Now all of this is simply an educated theory it could just be plain ole detox.
Having said all that the real issue at hand is to get you back on track and the first line of defense is always to up your liquid intake significantly to make sure you are well hydrated and the system is not trying to hold on to all fluids and to keep any toxins diluted and moving out. You can also try cutting back on the cayenne. That stuff is pretty powerful at dislodging mucous/toxins which is a good thing but when more stuff is getting loose than the system can handle it overloads the system with toxins and you can a have a Herxheimer reaction from too many toxins released at once which can make you feel ill nauseous and make you wanna hurl. If you are not really well hydrated it can cause the dry heaves.
You're already hip to doing the water 30 mins pre SWF so keep doing that and just significantly increase your fluid intake both water and lemonade and see how it goes. At least for me and in many cases that have been discussed here the SWF can take 1hr to 1.5 hrs before starting to go through you so empirically that seems to be a norma thing. The other thing I do is if by 1.5 hrs I don't have any out put or significant output from the SWF I'll chug a qt of water.
The MC is also considered a kidney cleanse so it's pretty common to have discomfort there. I suffered from kidney stones pretty bad to the point of being hospitalized a coupla time till I started doing my annual 40 dayers. Now that I mention this one the indications I would have when stuff was beginning to get loose in the kidneys was nausea and my body going into evacuation mode out of every orifice. Is there wasn't anything to vomits or poop out I would just get the dry heaves and stomach cramps so you might have loosened some sediment in your kidneys. Just to reiterate the issue now is to get you back on track and the first line of defense is to increase fluids
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This is a reply to # 1,773,055Thanks for that reply. I think I second guessed quite a bit of it already.
I was pretty on the case with timing whilst on the PB shakes and did drink lots of spring water whilst doing it.
I diddnt drink my usual litre of water chaser this morning that I usually have similar to what you advised, to hydrate and move the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) along about an hour after Iv had it. I drank plenty of water after heaving, and felt generally fine since then.
Interesting about the kidney stuff. Thats the one area I have yet to do any specific work on. Done bowel cleanse, parasite cleanse, extended juice feast, 3 gallbladder flushes so far. Released 6 stone in two years feeling great(Im now sitting at the heavier end of what would be considered normal for my weight so although I still see excess fat on my body in my eyes it might be that Ive reached where Im supposed to be).Im still not great on the excercise front so perhaps thats where I should be turning my attentions next, Its pretty nice living in my body nowadays and I know deep down inside that it could feel a hell of a lot nicer if I excercised.
Generally a bit limited on what I can afford to use but interested in applying some herbs to support kidney detox once Iv finished the MC.
Iv been basing my daily intake of the lemonade drink to 8 of the recommended (I started with six and upped it to 8 when I did not loose any weight in case I wasnt getting enough- I have only lost around a pound so far on 11 days but did shed a stone and a half whilst juicing on the 3 weeks leading up to going on the MC.
I was hoping to do it for around 25 days based on the maple syrup supply I have got and drinking the 8 drinks per day. Do you think it would be better to up the amount of drinks and do it for less days. I am not feeling at all hungry or lacking energy on the 8 per day and I felt fine on the 6 for that matter.
Also I was planning to do another gallbladder flush when I finish. I was going to ease back out by using the orange juice followed by a further week of juice feasting encorporating the apple juice with the flush at the end. Does this sound like a reasonable approach or can the flush be done sooner?
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This is a reply to # 1,773,220The hardest thing about exercise is the getting started part and even once you get started will be the initial struggle to get past the muscle aches and pains till you feel comfortable and seeing those result. I promise you it will be well worth any of the effort energy you put towards it. It will be the fastest most efficient way to see those changes. Not just physical but clarity of thought and attitude. The fastest regiment that will give you results is weight or resistance trining. For the not so dedicated folks with busy life styles there is something called Slow Weight Training. If you do it right and don't cheat you ony hafta do it once or twice a week. An easy read book on this is called "The Power of Ten" by Adam Zickerman. I'm not sure if the name or spelling of the authors name is right I'll look for my book later and correct if different.
I'm sure that you can do some herbs to continue support for the kidneys but anythng in the 3 week range of MC will do a pretty thourough job. The best thing one can do unless you have specific issues that need further cleansing is to drink half your body weight in oz of H2O. For example is you weight 120 lbs you should be drinking 60 oz of H2O daily.
There is a time factor in f or cycles when fasting that can't be compensated by doing more lemonades. There is a very informative post in the FAQs at the top of the page that I posted long ago called Detox Stages. This will give you a relative idea of the fasting time line. If you continue post MC with juices you will still continue to detox albeit at a slower rate but you will be infusing your system with some readily assimilable mega nutrition including vitamins, minerals and live enzymes. This has become my standard routine for the last 3 40 dayers I've done. At least 21 days MC then switch to green juices for the remainder. Love it!! the feeling of well being is fantstic!! I'm currently waiting to finish a project to start a much needed cleansing routine.
On the longer fasts including if you switch to juices you need to take more time breaking the fast than that outlined in the MC book. You should take a good 7 10 days breaking the fast. Wait till you're back on solids and having regular eliminations before doing the liver flush. This allows the system to build up some bile and you'll have a more productive flush.
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This is a reply to # 1,772,999I am not an expert and don't know the answers, but my *guess* would be that's too much cayenne pepper. It's an awful lot, and this is your second thread reporting symptoms of gas that never happened before you started with the cayenne. People have successfully cleansed using the lemonade recipe for decades, using less pepper than you are. Listen to your taste buds!
Something that helped me with salt water flushing was, I hate to admit it, a Pepe tip about drinking lots of water about an hour afterwards. It helps gravity do its job. I agree though that sometimes not as much comes out as goes in. This morning I'd gained weight after flushing last thing yesterday, and I think it's fluid retention from the salt. I'm a little concerned about it really. I'd like to know for sure that the Sea Salt all gets expelled safely from the body.
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This is a reply to # 1,773,189Hi Psycheopteryx, nice to see you and Pepe on a thread started by me, not arguing lol! All opinions valued and considered by me.
My taste buds currently loving the amount of cayenne iv been using but will probably use a little less from now on. Ive wondered about the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) too. I resolve to chug lots more water tomorrow.
The gas I had right at the beginning with my period, I was only using a very small amount of the pepper at the time and built it up in the days following. Im wondering if it was simply (pleasant subject) that as I had had my tampon in all night while I slept, that there was some sort of gas build up. This may have happened to me before but Iv probably never noticed as i wasnt looking for it. When I noticed it i was lying awake experiencing the effects of a laxative tea for the first time in my life lol!- I think we're play fighting. :-P #138533
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This is a reply to # 1,773,228Well, sometimes in the bath or randomly, there can be a bubble of air/gas from the vagina, it being open to the air and then closing up again. Sounds logical.
Enjoy the extra water and remember you can squeeze a little lemon in there too. :-)- Re: I think we're play fighting. :-P The Welsh Raw Bit
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This is a reply to # 1,773,260I got up this morning and had my half litre of water about half an hour before my SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) and then followed up with 1 litre of water about an hour later. RESULT! It kept coming out for about 6 hours! I drank lots of extra water through out the day too. Yay!
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