Heavy meat-eating could be part of an overall unhealthy diet or unhealthy lifestyle
Yes, and therein likely lies the key. As we pointed out before, comparsions mean little if the meat eating group has people who live an unhealthy lifestyle and eat unhealthy processed meats and meats from animals subject to growth hormones and antibiotics. As a whole, people who eat less meat tend to be more health conscious and active.
I hate to see these studies that don't take into account the types of meat eaten and the overall lifestyles of the meat-eating group, and end up giving the wrong impression that meat eating in and of itself is unhealthy - which is no more valid than it is to say that eating vegetables is healthy in and of itself. That is about as valid as it would be to take a group of sedentary people who ate mostly GMO vegetables grown in depleted soils and comparing them to people who ate healthy meat and were active and health conscious. As is true for vegans, the source of the food is key, as is the overall diet and lifestyle.
What do you suppose a study might show which looked at people who ate only healthy organic free range type meats and were as active and health conscious as a group of mostly vegan people would be? Perhaps not only less weight gain, but actual weight loss. Eating only or mostly healthy meats might itself cut down meat consumption - as Griz has pointed out, when you eat healthier meats as a part of an overall healthy diet and lifestyle, meat consumption tends to come down anyway.
By all means, promote the health benefits of consuming goodly amounts of healthy vegetables, fruits, seeds, nuts, legumes, etc. But don't make meat itself the culprit. Instead make what humans have done to meat, the same as what they have done to our vegetables, the real culprit.
Of course it can vary by individual. On the other hand, virtually no one should eat NO carbs! At least some healthy carbs are essential for good health, especially over the long term. A lot of people who bought heavily into the no-carbs diet as publicized by the Atkins group will find problems down the road, the same as will a lot of people who have bought into the idea of eating only vegetables without carefully managing their diets will ultimately find problems due to long term nutritional deficiencies.
It is all about balance and the kinds and quality of food items consumed. One can be more on the meat eater and low carbs end or more on the vegan end and still be healthy over both the short and long term, but for virtually all of us the healthiest equilibrium will be found in a diet that includes at least some healthy meats and some healthy vegetables. We have developed for eons eating both meat and vegetables. Attempting to get too far away from that model is fraught with risk.
You may well do better to get most of your veggie content with little or no grains and perhaps avoiding heavy consumption of fruits (due to the fructose content).
I never met a vegetarian or vegan who didn't have an agenda!
I happen to be a vegetarian because it suits me, and I don't give a rats azz what you or anybody else eats.
Studies while maybe informative never take the whole picture into consideration. They tend to be like statistics. You can focus on any aspect of the study to get what statistic you want while disregarding everything else that may alter the outcome.
This study was about meat eaters gaining more weight, but they didn't mention the way the meat was prepared, or the food that is eaten with it. When is the last time you just had a piece of meat without any side dishes.
How was the meat raised? Was growth hormones and other chemicals injected into the animal? Was it chicken fried?, Barbecued forever with a sauce that had lots of brown sugar in it?
I didn't see any of this mentioned in the study, so you shouldn't "come out of the bag" about vegetarians having an agenda just because somebody posts an article of a study that you don't like.
Read between the lines.
But ya keep posting these patronizing, faulty and demeaning anti my diet articles
You said, now post where I said anything "anti" your diet.
BTW, Omega 3 comes from various sources including vegetarian.
Also I missed your humor, did you mistake it for vitriol?
Duh look at the title of the thread! Animal based Omega3s the brain needs them IC obviously!
Duh, you better check again, it's not the title of the thread I'm posting on. The joke is on you, go ahead and laugh.
"Omega-3" generally is not a proven brain-booster, but one omega-3 fatty acid (DHA) and one omega-6 one (ARA) are essential components of the brain, and it is therefore a no-brainer that some DHA and some ARA are better than none. However, they do not possess a magical dose-responsive ability to boost brain size and power, and the amounts required are probably fairly modest for infants and even more modest for grown adults.
Since you didn't post where I made an "anti" your diet comment, I will assume you had a brain fart, and haven't had your animal Omega 3 today. LOL
if you're gonna bash my way then you will open yourself up to criticism ,get over it ,its part of life!
There you go again. Post where I bashed your way. You bashed yourself by not posting what you accused me of doing. You couldn't, because I didn't.
Think before you write. It really does matter, I actually read what you post.