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Gary Null suit vs. supplement manufacturer claims Gary Null's Ultimate Power Meal nearly killed him
Gary Null claims the manufacturer of Gary Null's Ultimate Power Meal overloaded the supplements with Vitamin D.
A controversial alternative health guru is suing after a taste of his own medicine nearly killed him.
Gary Null - described on quackwatch.org as "one of the nation's leading promoters of dubious treatment for serious disease" - claims the manufacturer of Gary Null's Ultimate Power Meal overloaded the supplements with Vitamin D.
The buff "Joy of Juicing" author, whose products include Red Stuff Powder and Gary Null's Heavenly Hair Cleaner, claims he suffered kidney damage and was left bloodied and in intense pain from two daily servings of the supplement.
"Null continued to take the Ultimate Power Meal, all the while thinking that it would help him, and relieve his condition; instead, it made him worse," the suit says.
The suit filed in Manhattan Supreme Court accuses Triarco Industries of causing Null's "near-death experience" by botching the testing and manufacturing of the supplement.
Null, who also owns an eponymous food shop on the upper West Side, contends he was hit last December with "excruciating fatigue" that left him unable to walk and forced him to fly back to New York and cancel lectures, counseling and filming.
"Null would later be told that if he had not flown back to New York and seen his doctor, then he could have died within a short period of time," the suit says.
"Null then sequestered himself and fasted, only consuming massive amounts of water as he was told there was no medical treatment to lower the amount of Vitamin D in his system."
The suit accuses Triarco of inadequate safety testing that led to six consumers being hospitalized with severe kidney damage. A company representative did not return calls.
"Null, in the midst of all this, while he was suffering in bed, had dozens of his customers calling him, along with condemning and threatening him," the suit says. "In fact, they threatened that they would never buy any product of his ever again."
A lawyer for Null declined to comment, but did say the tainted supplies of the Ultimate Power Meal have been pulled from store shelves.
The suit says Null, 65, is still suffering the effects of too much Vitamin D.
"Even now, Null's condition is questionable as he continues to occasionally urinate blood," the suit says. "Unfortunately, there is no medical treatment for this as it is a matter of waiting, watching and observing what develops next."
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/04/28/2010-04-28_my_health_mix_almos...
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- Re: Too much of a good thing nearly ... InnerCalm
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,614,365This is just another reason why unnatural supplementation sucks. Go with raw living foods. Nature cannot be improved upon. Greed and ego believe otherwise.
- Re: Too much of a good thing nearly ... parazapper
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,614,377I entirely disagree!
You do not get sufficient vitamin D for optimal levels from foods (except such as cod liver oil on which you can overdoes too), only sunshine.
You can not get enough Niacin for optimal health from ANY natural source.
Other things that are not in sufficient quantity for optimum human health are methylcobalamin and CoQ10.
The point is to get the right amounts, not excessive as was the case in the article. The product used was claimed to be all natural.
- Re: Too much of a good thing nearly ... InnerCalm
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This is a reply to # 1,614,406I respect your right to disagree, however if one uses a raw living foods based lifestyle and has food grown properly (in soil with micro-organisms and a wide array of minerals(the critical missing component in most raw food diets), then you will not have any issues. The trouble is agrifarming has depleted most soil (even that which many organic farms attempt to grow produce in), so people have nutritionally deplete diets. By educating oneself beyond these pitfalls, you can easily supply all the nutrition you need from your food. Even just growing your own sprouts and grasses will take you far, far beyond even organic produce. Most sprouts are between 10 to 30 times more nutritionally dense than the best organic vegetables for instance. Also by utilizing algae and ocean vegetables such as dulse you will go very far beyond any supplementation.
Another important issue here is that most supplements are unnatural and actually stress the liver. They also require extra energy to attempt to break down and remove from the system. They are not recognized by the human system and are treated as an invader. Most supplements cause an immune response as does most cooked food (scientifically documented). Most do not break down and end up in the septic system anyway.
If one thinks they need supplementation while rebuilding an unhealthy system (where there is poor absorption and organ function) then the optimal way to do this is from food based supplements such as green food blends. One must do there homework in this regard because there is a wide range in quality even in green food supplements.
This opinion is based on many years of both personal experience backed up with lots of research. In the end we must all decide what is right and true for ourselves.
What you are suggesting in your statements would mean nature screwed up. I personally believe that just as most animals in their natural habitat are healthy (especially compared to their domesticated counterparts) humans have this same capacity if they also utilize their ideal environment along with ideal nutrition.
6 years raw and my niacin levels, b12 levels etc are optimal. B12 can be synthesized in a healthy gut. North American lifestyles destroy this innate ability and it takes time and knowledge to rebuild function. Cultured vegetables and SBO's will do the necessary rebuilding.Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 1,614,474But Cholcalciferol (Vitamin D3) is Cholcalciferol, whether ingested by mouth or manufactured within the skin via sunlight. The benefits are the same.
Sunlight manufactures approx' 10,000ius of Cholcalciferol in the skin over a half hour period: the body then stops production at a level determined by itself.
Supplemenation at this level is therefore identical when sunlight is absent.
The same can be said for Manufactured Ascorbate, which is chemically identical to its natural counterpart and which has been used at very high doses (Orthomolecular Medicine) in the complete cure of Eisenmenger Syndrome (amongst other diseases and ill-health conditions).
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This is a reply to # 1,614,487So I guess in the case of getting enough vitamin d and in a safe manner one could just...
..go outside. ;-)
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This is a reply to # 1,614,489Actually, this only works fully in Florida, and southernmost states in the US and only during full sunlight exposure in summer.
New levels of vitamin D have been determined for optimal health and they are much higher than previously suggested.
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This is a reply to # 1,614,498I live in a northern climate. Maybe I'm an anomaly.
Just for the sake of benefit of other views who happen on this thread. Another thing to consider that ties in with optimal health along with exposing skin to sunlight is sungazing I highly recommend people do this. Read up on it to do it properly.
One more thing is to walk barefoot on ground as much as possible to ground. This actually helps charge cells with earth electricity. (that's the short explanation).
Anyway nice chatting with you guys.
I hope things go well for Mr. Null.Advertisement
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"I live in a northern climate. Maybe I'm an anomaly.
Just for the sake of benefit of other views who happen on this thread. Another thing to consider that ties in with optimal health along with exposing skin to sunlight is sungazing I highly recommend people do this. Read up on it to do it properly.
One more thing is to walk barefoot on ground as much as possible to ground. This actually helps charge cells with earth electricity. (that's the short explanation).
Anyway nice chatting with you guys.
I hope things go well for Mr. Null."We were designed to live in Africa and we were designed to live without clothing. In the Northern climes we don't get enough exposure to proper light, let alone just the sun. The only way you can get enough sunlight up north - and Florida too for that matter, is to leave your clothes at home!!!! (Or get active in nudist groups, which I've done at times but even then in the winter we had to have our activities indoors.) Otherwise to get one's sunshine you can either do as the heart healthy and virtually cancer free Inuit do - eat almost all meat and fat and very few veggies, and then only in the summer. It is known that the Inuit Diet is the healthiest natural diet known to modern man. Blubber and fish are high in omega 3 and fish oil is also high in vitamin D - and none of it has minerals from the earth.
I agree with an earlier post you made that said that each one has to find what works for them. Here on Cure Zone there is a very mistaken notion that one must consume lots fruits and vegetables to maintain health - and it's a total lie, but if it works for ya, have at it.
A know that walking barefoot has many benefits including a form of reflexology. But you do not have to go barefoot to run your earth energy. Your earth energy begins in the arches of your feet - your foot chakras, and run up your legs. Just open them up and draw the earth energy in and you will not only feel the "electricity" (its actually the energy of the planet) you will activate your grounding which keeps you as spirit attached to the planet so that you can do what you want to do - instead of what others want you to do. You can run your earth energies (both feet and legs) and be grounded while at 40,000 feet - I know, I've done it. In fact, I keep that energy going at all times even while asleep. You can also maintain a golden sun over your head all the time which will bring cosmic energy down through your channels and energy system - without having to look at the sun. Try it sometime, it is very refreshing.
http://discovermagazine.com/2004/oct/inuit-paradox
The Inuit Paradox
10.01.2004How can people who gorge on fat and rarely see a vegetable be healthier than we are?
“Our meat was seal and walrus, marine mammals that live in cold water and have lots of fat. We used seal oil for our cooking and as a dipping sauce for food. We had moose, caribou, and reindeer. We hunted ducks, geese, and little land birds like quail, called ptarmigan. We caught crab and lots of fish—salmon, whitefish, tomcod, pike, and char. Our fish were cooked, dried, smoked, or frozen. We ate frozen raw whitefish, sliced thin. The elders liked stinkfish, fish buried in seal bags or cans in the tundra and left to ferment. And fermented seal flipper, they liked that too.”Patricia Cochran, an Inupiat from Northwestern Alaska, is talking about the native foods of her childhood: “We pretty much had a subsistence way of life. Our food supply was right outside our front door. We did our hunting and foraging on the Seward Peninsula and along the Bering Sea.
Cochran’s family also received shipments of whale meat from kin living farther north, near Barrow. Beluga was one she liked; raw muktuk, which is whale skin with its underlying blubber, she definitely did not. “To me it has a chew-on-a-tire consistency,” she says, “but to many people it’s a mainstay.” In the short subarctic summers, the family searched for roots and greens and, best of all from a child’s point of view, wild blueberries, crowberries, or salmonberries, which her aunts would mix with whipped fat to make a special treat called akutuq—in colloquial English, Eskimo ice cream......... (more at the site)
Also ------
http://www.naturalnews.com/022868.html
Taking a Closer Look at the Inuit Paradox and Cardiovascular Disease
(NaturalNews) Cardiovascular Disease (CVD) is rare in Inuit people who continue to eat their 'traditional' diet. But how can eating a diet predominantly consisting of seal meat, fat and blubber and almost completely void of greens, fruits and fiber be 'preventative' of the very disease which plagues the entire western world and for which medical orthodoxy blames on diets high in saturated fats and cholesterol? Also, by adopting medicine's low-fat, low-cholesterol diet and drug regimes, CVD continues to increase with no cures in site. Herein lies the paradox... if high fat and high cholesterol diets cause CVD, then what is 'protecting' the traditional Inuit, which has thrived on a diet rich in both?..... (more at the site)
- Re: Too much of a good thing nearly ... grzbear
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This is a reply to # 1,614,583The key here is... if you live in a northern climate, eat as you should in the north.
If you live in the desert, eat as you should in the desert.
If you live in the rainforest, eat as you should in the rainforest.
>>"We were designed to live in Africa and we were designed to live without clothing."<<
I agree with the live without clothing part... but not that *we were designed to live in Africa*.
LOL...
That is why lighter skinned people do better than darker skinned people in northern latitudes at making *D*.
We were designed to live in the environment we populated by eating local, properly grown and raised, seasonal foods.
And running around naked as the seasons permit.
Simple as that...
Anyone up for streaking?
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This is a reply to # 1,614,695Would you believe me if I told you I am naked at this moment?
It is the naked truth.-
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"We were designed to live in the environment we populated by eating local, properly grown and raised, seasonal foods.
And running around naked as the seasons permit.
Simple as that..."The Out of Africa theory is currently the prevailing view among research scientists. That has been substantially supported by the recent field of mitochondrial DNA studies. (You and I and everyone else on the planet have African ancestors.) That view is held by the authors of two books that I have - "The Vitamin D Cure" by James Dowd, MD and "The Power of Vitamin D" by Sarfaz Azidi MD and both point out the subsequent difficulties that everyone in the northern climes have creating vitamin D from sunshine. Azidi has a practice in Los Angeles and is also an associate professor at UCLA and he says the vast majority of people he tests (he tests all his patients) are vitamin D deficient. They both point out that sun provides very little vitamin D production for most people, and dark skinned people living in the Northern Hemisphere in particular have an even higher incidence of vitamin D deficiency because of their built in sun blockers. Both books say that we in the Northern Hemisphere have significant vitamin D deficiencies and have the diseases and conditions associated with that shortage. They both recommend significant supplementation with vitamin D3.
We did not evolve on local flora and fauna. I'll stick to my guns. The healthiest natural human diet found in real time on the planet is - the Inuit Diet. Their cardiovascular and cancer rates are far lower than any other population and their eating and medical statistics have been documented - before they and their offspring turned to the typical Western diets. To prove that it is the diet that is beneficial a couple of researches ate the Inuit way for three years in their home country in Europe while under medical monitoring - during the 1920s, and were found to be healthy living that life style.
What I did learn during my nudist experiences is that - there is no such thing as a perfect body. In fact if I were running things there wouldn't be a "dress down" Friday, there would be a no clothing Friday where you couldn't be at your job or anywhere in public with a stitch of clothing on. If we could do that it would blow the Madison Avenue/Hollywood air-brushed pictures and associated propaganda about bodies clearly out of the water. Some folks think that nudity is immoral. They've got it backwards.
Carbohydrates kill! So does clothing. lol
- Re: Too much of a good thing nearly ... grzbear
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This is a reply to # 1,614,730>>"The Out of Africa theory"<<
point is... it is a *theory*.
IMO it is incorrect for a variety of reasons I will not get into here... however, you can believe what you will.
We are however, ALL connected, and more closely related, one to another, than by DNA alone.
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- Re: Too much of a good thing nearly ... InnerCalm
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This is a reply to # 1,614,774DNA is nothing more than a changeable media. It is to our bodies what magnetic tape is to a tape deck. It is just a code container. Consciousness is the editor of that code.
On the Inuit theory there are many opposing views. Here is one from Joel's blog...
http://www.diseaseproof.com/archives/diet-myths-are-the-inuit-healthy.html
Also food is but one aspect of vital health. Activity and thought patterns are also critical players. Also influences such as environment, toxins, stress, etc.Advertisement
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>>"The Out of Africa theory"<<
"point is... it is a *theory*.
IMO it is incorrect for a variety of reasons I will not get into here... however, you can believe what you will.
We are however, ALL connected, and more closely related, one to another, than by DNA alone.
grz-"As it applies to nutrition, it's the best that anyone can come up with. That we evolved in various geographic locations as some have believed, is pretty much out of vogue - all due to mitochondrial DNA analysis which has blown holes in archaeologists theories. It's a case where the archaeologists didn't want to meet the geneticists, but they did and they have had to back down. Through that type of research they have also determined that "we" are not evolved from Neanderthals, something that was also believed by some scientists. We're from a different tree. A significant theory is that we began to evolve from primates when we began eating fat. We are all fat heads - 60% of our brains are fat. We need fat in order to survive. Am still holding on to the fact that meat and fat are healthier than veggies - of any kind. (Vegetarians brains shrink at a much faster rate - 6 times - than meat eaters. http://www.asylum.com/2008/09/15/a-vegertarian-diet-shrinks-the-brain/) The Inuit Diet is being suppressed by both doctors and nutritionists because it doesn't follow their low-fat nonsense which continues to produce heart disease and cancer.
If you're taking a "biblical" perspective, I myself see no conflict between evolution and Judeo-Christianity. Chapter 1 of Genesis has a creation of the planet and mankind prior to the Chapter 2 Adam and Eve version. In fact, there could easily be a creation prior to Chapter 1 because it tells the man and woman created in the image of god(s) to go out and replenish the earth - in the KJV.
You and I and everyone on the planet is an eternal spirit - separate from our bodies, and yes we are all connected from the brand new AIDS baby in Africa to Bill Gates, to the International Bankers - that's what we are here to learn. I'm a very slow learner, by the way.
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"Infinite potential. ;-)"
You're still stuck on body concepts. Your body is in control. It doesn't want to accept the fact that it is mortal, but it is. Spirit is separate from body (it is not your mind). We've been through this before and you still haven't discovered your chakras and the rest of your spiritual energy system.
Time and space is an illusion - and so bodies.
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This is a reply to # 1,614,583The wonders of a life based on nature!
The health and strength of the inuit, the reasons for the results of a higher IQ when on a diet of fatty fish, the reasons why they can live so well off of whale, marine mammal and fish fat..
Animals store their self-produced D3 in several different ways, Furry mammals grow it into their fur, pigs, humans and other smooth-skinned critters store it in their fat, birds store it in part in their fat and their feathers, reptiles.. well, I haven't checked that out entirely yet!
What are you eating when you eat fatty fish and marine mammal blubber? Nyyuup.. You tell me!
Here's what I assembled out of the Vitamin D council's comments on how D3 works in the brain:
//www.curezone.org/blogs/f.asp?f=2401
(please do read and review!)
"Vitamin D has a significant biochemistry in the brain. Nuclear receptors for vitamin D exist in the brain and vitamin D is involved in the biosynthesis of neurotrophic factors, synthesis of nitric oxide synthase, and increased glutathione levels—all suggesting an important role for vitamin D in brain function. Animal data indicates that tyrosine hydroxylase, the rate-limiting enzyme for all the brain's monoamines, is increased by vitamin D. Rats born to severely vitamin D deficient dams have profound brain abnormalities."
.. It's all geeky greek until one uses a few evenings on Wikipedia! The link above (PDF) that I provide includes the explanation of the terminologies used (fx, what neurotrophic factors are), and what it means for neurological health.
One of the things I find most interesting is D3's role in stiumulating the production of glutathione in the body- basically what you need to up the production of glutathione is some D3, avacado, a health diet and rest!
God gave us wonderful bodies and all the tools we need to take care of it. I think Science should -benefit- nature and confirm our health and well being.. not pull us so far away from the land as it has done.
Blessings,
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