re: anxiety 
cr8iveart
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Anxiety levels fluctuating wildly after this first big die-off/kill. Is this normal? Varying from morning to afternoon, some more intense than others. Feels like I am going crazy.- Re: re: anxiety WannaSeeWorms
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Yeees.... I felt like a total lunatic during the first three flushes. Emotional rollercoaster! What a lot of poison circulating around. Make sure you are pooping, drinking water, or do some coffee enemas. A few months in I have started dumping grief out of my liver bigtime too.
Some other stuff:
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1137134#i
http://www.curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=781465
- Re: re: anxiety awakened
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,238,344Welcome to the begining of the end. I am sure doc will address this. He went through alot of emotional stuff...he wrote about it in his book which I would recommend to everyone. All the bugs create waste which affects the mind, and the body has no way go get rid of it. That is why it is so important to get the elimination organs working FIRST...It can be a real roller coaster ride...doc had one story he wrote about while detoxing, and his wife scared him and spent the next 12hrs back in vietnam...doesn't sound like fun. He say you will retrace where you picked up the bugs/chemical poisions as you expell them but only for a short time. Hang in there.
- Re: re: anxiety UserX
16 y
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,238,344Yeah,, Cr8, this could be from the detoxing, or it could be from the die-off of the bugs. Doc says you can take an ornithine ever hour for 8 hours in the day till the anxiety goes away a little. There WILL be anxiety from the benzo as you come off it, so that might be whre you at at right now.
I also mentioned the Anxiety 24 formula that comes from the Pain and Stress Center. Do you have some of that? That has some calming herbals in it as well as GABA. If you have been on the drugs any length of time, you are depleted in GABA and B vitamins. I also took the B vitamins along with it. Doc took a lot of the B vitamins when he was putting the program together. That helps with the anxiety. Standard Process at
http://www.naturamart.com
if you dont find a professional who can give them to you.
Lots of distilled water will help get rid of the toxins.
This program is an emotional rollercoaster ride in and of itself, and getting off a benzo or other mind-altering drug is no picnic, so you might have cut the benzo a little too much, but if you don't have to go back up on it, i would try to ride it out. It probably just hit you on one of it's intense times when it comes back and really causes symptoms to increase. It wil get less and less over time.
With the die-off from the bugs, it is hard for me to know just where you are, so just take what you can tolerate at a time and make sure to add the replacement nutrients as you go.
This is just a few thoughts thru cyberspace as to where you might be at right now.
EDIT: on the Anxiety 24, (if you have it) You can take up to 8 capsules a day, divided. This was a tremendous help to me because it did, indeed, stop a lot of the anxiety and make life more bearable when I was coming off the drugs.
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- Re: re: anxiety cr8iveart
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,238,485I have the orthinine, especially this afternoon and this evening. I am down to a half each of the Klonipin and the Seroquel. I haven't gone down on those any more, started with the Humaworm about two weeks ago. Didn't feel like I was having any reaction to it, till I went back and looked at some of the pictures: the alien thingies kind of spread out with multiple arms?, potato skin like things, "rice," and little white dots, what ever they are. The anxiety skyrocketd yesterday and has fluctuated wildly, especially with my sister's diagnosis. Guess that I am very narcissistic - it really scared the stew out of me that this maybe cancer again, for me too. Trying to stay focused and not jump out of my skin. It is hard when she is talking one minute like it is a done deal and she is at the end, then the next like there is nothing wrong at all. When I suggest natural stuff, she just pooh, poohs it. I feel very alone in all of this. Only one other person I know believes in the power of this stuff. So, little or no support from friends and family. Just one person and this forum. Would you rather be sane in an insane world or crazy in a sane world? Too bad I don't think that we have a sane world.
- Dealing with feelings of aloneness UserX
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This is a reply to # 1,238,517Hi, again, I saw your post and can identify with your feelings of aloneness in doing all this. I can also tell you that there is a LOT of support here from people who have gone before you, conquered the drugs and conquered a very bad liver situation. I am still working on getting my pancreas back in line, too, as well as my liver. What you are doing is a VERY difficult thing. It is going to take a lot of courage, but what I alsways told myself was, "this, too, shall pass", Not very easy when you are going thru it, tho. Cancer is gone when the bugs are gone and the liver and colon is back on line. Doc has said the cancer is gone in 6 months time into this program. Sadness comes when you tell your friends and family they don't have to be sick or die, and they just can't begin to understand what you are talking about. I have found that they make their own choices, and we have to let them do it. I chose to save my own life. You are going in the right direction. Fear comes from looking far ahead of you and becoming discouraged. I have been there on the drugs. Please know that we are many of us who are following your progress. Know that we will be here for you as best we can and that you WILL make it, if you just do the "getting mentally tough" thing and stay that way. STAY MENTALLY TOUGH! I kept telling myself I WOULD beat the drugs, no matter what. When I started this program, I knew that I had no choice--it was do it or die. That was my "innate" feeling. I took it one day at a time, worked the details of the program, stayed on here reading all the back posts getting a lot of good information and keeping myself focused. I knew there would be a lot of people who would help me thru this. I wasn't wrong! I found out keeping myself focused on something I enjoyed or was educationsl would take my mind off what I was doing some of the time, and was very essential in keeping me on the right track. The same can and will happen to you if you keep up with that "mentally tough" thing you gotta do all the time to get thru this and, try to stay focused. Keep us posted!
- Re: Dealing with feelings of alonene... cr8iveart
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MoreThis is a reply to # 1,238,565Thanks, I appreciate the supp0ort, all of the support. It makes me want to down a whole bottle of Dewormer!!! lol, I won't do that, but that is the way that I feel right now.
- Re: Dealing with feelings of alonene... cr8iveart
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- Re: re: anxiety WannaSeeWorms
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This is a reply to # 1,238,517I'd rather be alive.
After that, I'd rather be alive and not suffering.
Having a nice photo of 18" of spaghetti dark brown roundworm goes a long way to changing the minds of the relatives!- Re: re: anxiety UserX
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- Re: re: anxiety cr8iveart
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This is a reply to # 1,238,622I haven't passed any of those yet. I am sure there is more fun to come. And, the Orthinine really knocked out the anxiety - oh, my heavens, what an incredible difference. Guess that clinches it, bugs!!!!!!!
- Re: re: anxiety cr8iveart
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- Re: re: anxiety UserX
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- Dealing with feelings of aloneness UserX
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- Re: re: anxiety cr8iveart
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- On the replacement nutrients UserX
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Hi:
One thing that is important to say about the replacement nutrients that include the amino acids is that it will take 3 months of being on them to see the depression lift. That is what I was told by the orthomolecular doctor who prescribed them for me. She was right. The drugs cause depression and anxiety and depletion of the nutrients that keep us from getting that way in the first place. I think it was stress from the bugs and the anxiety they caused that was my initial problem, then the drugs made it even worse.
Hope this helps.- Re: On the replacement nutrients cr8iveart
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,238,607Glad to know that. I have really felt that all of this started as a nutritional issues. I have never thought that depression, bi-polar, etc was nutritional imbalances - setting the terrain for the parasites to get out of hand, then, drugs which made things worse, then, stress, then, disease, all the while treating things with pharma, which was all that I knew at the time. No time for regrets, it is time to move on and deal with what I need to do. Crap on the prescriiption meds!!!! They definitely make things worse.
- Re: On nutrients - screwed up what ... cr8iveart
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This is a reply to # 1,238,750I meant to say that I have never thought that mental issues were diseases, I have always thought that they were nutritionally based.
My mother feed us lethichin and cod liver oil, we had no sugar in the house, lots of fruits and veggies.I wish I had stayed with those. I wish I could say that there was no white flour stuff but that was quickly taking over everywhere. Funny, she knew all of the right things to do but wouldn't quit smoking cigs. I have gone back and forth with healthy eating and healthy oils. I think there were things missing for me in childhood - I was always thin and anemic. We had tons of animals growing up and I usually slept with my cat or dog. Probably not a good idea. So, I probably have old, old worms in there.
- Re: On nutrients - screwed up what ... cr8iveart
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- Re: On the replacement nutrients cr8iveart
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- Re: re: anxiety knows
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This is a reply to # 1,238,344On "The rest of the story" on my CD I get into the problems with doing this program and deciding to be healthy. The alienation of friends, family, doctors, even preachers. Not an easy road to go down. Seems there's no help to be had. And when I was putting all this togehter there was indeed no help. But us Combat guys are crazy anyway and like doing things alone so that part of it wasn't a problem.
I thought the emotional roller-coaster ride was just me because of the war stuff but when I started teaching this to others I discovered everyone else that was seriously ill went through the same thing.
Hang on it does get better but it is indeed something you have to go through.
When you come out the other side you'll have your complete complimant of emotions back unincumbered by drugs or dogma.
It IS a once in a life time deal. Only have to do this once. Thank God. But once healthy you'll see that there was no other way to accomplish this.
And the second time around is much, much, much, much, better. It's just fun...
Doc Sutter
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- Re: re: anxiety cr8iveart
16 y
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This is a reply to # 1,239,038Thanks for the support, Doc Without the forum, I would be SOL. I do have a couple of friends who don't think I am a total nut case, but they are definitely in the minority. I have read everything you have on your web site - all of the essays and listened to you mp3. I probably need to buy the book just to keep all of this straight in my head. I use books to keep me sane sometimes by rereading things over and over to imprint it in this brain. But, I truly don't know that I could stay the course without the knowledge of all the people here and the couple of friends that I have who are supporting me. It really puts you out of the main - I never really was in the main, but this really throws one over the edge. But then, it is a matter of one's health - not anyone else's!!!!! I just feel really tired sometimes. Funny though, it is not the bone-crushing tired that I felt when I had cancer before - it is just I feel tired - of anxiety, insomnia, pills, not absorbing my food, not knowing what this is, just tired.
- Re: re: anxiety cr8iveart
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- Re: re: anxiety WannaSeeWorms
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