Grandma

It seems you were a amle or perhaps a macho Grandma in your other posts

and this is perfect CZ

Treat your wife like when you married her, man, give her gifts and of course always the Bible with you

Spare the rod and spoil the child sayeth the Grandma/pa!

That is a little one sided

which CZ is known for!

and this idea that a forum entitled EMOTIONAL HEALING
would have a mod, or a "support" person of CZ (or in your case a queen;]),

that would "support" posters looking for emotional healing with violent advice:

high camp

or complete theater

or such awful cruelty that it is unfathomable and certainly not supportive

I see you rarely if ever (at least as Ali ) stand on your own

BTW, the 2 are separate issues, for me at least.

Oh please....talk about high drama. Perhaps you are just mirroring your own situation. You seem to be a bit too sensitive. You are definitely defensive, and opened the floor up to that kind of discussion.

The reason our young man got into this abusive situation is most likely due to self esteem issues. And continued abuse by loved ones causes further damage to self esteem. Vicious cycle. Been there, done that.

Discussing this with you seems to be like hitting one's head against a brick wall. Obviously you are floating in some dream world of delusion. On your planet, people are sensitive creatures that are completely capable of sorting through the pain of love and life without any help from others. All we should do is allude to helping them, while not giving them any meat.

But there are things to consider in life. There are hard core issues such as the law, finances, social implications...you know...reality? There is also being faced with someone who is taking you to the cleaners, throwing infidelity in your face, mocking you and treating you as if you are not worthy of respect or compassion. Despite the emotional aspects of this kind of treatment there are other things to consider. Such as, should you leave your home in the hands of this person in escape, just think about the financial aspects over and above the emotional ones.

I've had many friends unhappy with marriages do this. They leave to escape their utter sadness or abuse, sometimes leaving children, home, possessions. The law looks at this as abandonment in some states. You can solace these people, and I've had my share of hand holding up close and personal. Many hours of validating their feelings and helping them deal with emotional distress. And I've seen them get screwed by the legal system and their former spouse. I have a girlfriend in that situation right this minute. It's very sad.

So, while you might think the advice is harsh, the one thing that many people need when emotionally they can only deal with grief is core issues. The reality of the situation and all its future implications. If you are going to have to deal with the grief of loss of love, you need to do it so that you don't compound it with the loss of everything else. I've know of some people to lose custody of their children during this escape. Now that's reality here on my planet.

I have no idea where you are coming from. It seems that you just intensely dislike some of us here, and I don't think it would matter one bit what we posted. Oh well, your cross to bear.

But while we are discussing this, I looked back and don't see one instance that you gave solace or advice. So makes me wonder what your purpose is here. I will reserve the right to use the "T" label if you do not start posting anything of value other than demeaning those that post to support. Perhaps you are someone who does post regularly, but are hiding behind your number because of fear of what?

Enough said. I tire of this discussion.

Molly