I wonder if it is true? I mean honestly, people can write whatever they like here and Water Fasting is a very threatening concept to many many people. People who rely, for their income for example, on health products and concepts that would become obsolete if the truth about the real healing benefits of Water Fasting came out.

I just find it hard to believe this person has "liver damage", etc. and almost died. If they were anorexic beforehand, perhaps? Yet they do not mention this or any other reason why this would happen to them and nobody else I've ever heard of.

It's crap.

Obviously not enough info, but your organs do not "rot" when you fast. Quite the contrary.

Ignorance is bliss.

I have no way of knowing whether the poster was telling the truth or putting out a bogus post, but to the question of whether a Water Fast can be dangerous, the answer is YES!!! Let me relate to you my experience with water fasting, which only happened last month. I have been seriously into alternative medicine for 4 years, posting on cure zone since the summer of 2006. My main symptoms are bad circulation, food allergies , massive brain fog and bad anxiety. I had juice fasted before and felt incredible. My brain fog would disappear after a few days and my mental clarity was exceptional. I am very into kinesiology (muscle testing), Last year I found out that my pituitary was almost turned off - I was able to turn it back on with a homeopathic (it probably took six months). Juice fasting did nothing for this problem, in fact in some ways it made it worse, although this was only temporary. All in all, my experience with juice fasting was great.

I started a Water Fast during the second week of January. I started going down hill almost immediately. My brain fog worsened (which I didn’t think was possible) and my circulation tanked. My circulation problem is mainly to my extremities, but during the Water Fast my core body temperature fell through the floor. I was in a heated house wearing thermal long underwear and a wool hat and was shivering. After 5 days I switched to juice. Almost immediately these symptoms lessened and within a day or two I felt like I had before the fast. After 3 days on juice I went back to water. BIG MISTAKE. I went downhill again, although not as quickly as before. My brain fog was so bad that essentially I was a walking zombie. Luckily I had an appointment with my kinesiologist already scheduled and when I told him what was happening he immediately suspected my thyroid and he checked it and I was MAJOR hypothyroid. I am actually glad I did the water fast because it brought this problem out in the open, but the water fast was shutting down my thyroid function, maybe even my hypothalamus. My kinesiologist used muscle testing to diagnose me hypothyroid, but I went that day and had blood drawn and major testing done. Not only did it come back hypothyroid (low t3 and low tsh), but my liver enzymes were VERY high, signifying liver dysfunction/damage. My uric acid levels WERE THROUGH THE ROOF. I was essentially diagnosed with gout. My co2 was very high also - the doctor told me that this meant my body had become very acidic. All of these things happened because of the water fast. I have good health insurance so I have blood work done frequently. I probably check my liver enzymes 3-4 times a year (for at least 4-5 years). They have never been high. My kinesiologist could muscle test that my thyroid problem was causing liver problems, and that when my thyroid problem cleared the liver points cleared as well. The water fast was causing parts of my endocrine system to shut down. Thank god I stopped it. I was not hungry or feeling particularly weak. In my mind, if I had carried on I very well could have done permanent damage to my body. If I carried it on for an extended time I could have died, although I certainly don’t want to suggest that I was near death. But I can’t stress enough how brutal the fast was to my system, and it was not detox, although I certainly was releasing a lot of toxins.

I am not telling people that they shouldn’t water fast. What I am saying is that it is not a guaranteed cure all for all problems. That is silly. It is the mindset of the western medicine magic bullet. The human body is way to complex to have one simple fix for all problems. Not a fast, not a liver flush, not a single homeopathic etc. I know it sounds great - do a fast and let the body heal itself, but I am sorry, it doesn’t work in all cases. Maybe some, but not all. Water Fasting is very extreme. It should be used with caution. I was talking with a longtime cure zone poster whose name I will not reveal, except that she is probably one of the most respected posters here, and while she has done a decent amount of juice fasting and some master cleansing, she told me that she would probably not water fast unless under the supervision of a naturopath. Again, I am not going to tell people what protocol to follow, as I think there is validity to fasting, but posters here on this forum, especially longtime, experienced posters, need to step up to the plate and warn newbies of the risks. I am constantly seeing very overweight people with bad habits and very little knowledge of alternative health come to curezone and say they are going to do a 40 day water fast and come out the other end a brand new person with all of their bad habits in the past, and the usual response is, “Good luck! Keep us posted!”. Their bodies and major organ systems are already under tremendous strain from years of unhealthy living and tons of extra weight. THEY ARE NOT GOOD CANDIDATES FOR AN EXTENDED WATER FAST. They need to build very slowly up to a water fast. Anyway, I will reiterate that I am not against people fasting. However, just because someone else solved all of their health problems with a fast does not mean you will. Use common sense when you embark on these things. Water Fasting is very extreme and if it affects your body in a bad way then those results can be extreme as well.

Tommy

If it's true it would have to mean that she went past the point of true hunger and continued on a fair while after. It's unlikely though, or the doctors have dramaticised the damage because I don't think even a starving body will damage the heart until the very last. And as someone has already said going to a hospital where they know little or nothing about fasting could be the worst thing to do. If you get in strife get to an experienced fasting doctor or fasting retreat if you can. Breaking a long term fast with the wrong foods is the most dangerous thing that you can do, and hir statement that he/she still has no appetite probably supports the likelihood that he/she had broken the fast incorrectly before it was meant to be finished rather than fasted beyond the point of true hunger. Certainly the body is telling them to fast again in any case.

I certainly can't imagine our body rotting on a fast or off it unless the rot is started from food that has been sitting around too long undigested. Apart from food the only other thing I know would cause rot inside the body is death itself. Living tissue just does not spontaneously rot.

Anyway, the lesson if any to learn here is to listen to your body always and break the fast correctly when you need to. :)

Andrew.

I think that fasting can also attract people that have a tendency to be bulimic or even hypochondric (sp?). It's very easy to look here for support even though you may not be the ideal candidate for fasting.

When I think of the 2-3 year old and how susceptible a small child would be versus an adult, I feel more re-assured. At the same time, I disagree with fasting a child of that age, their neurological systems need plenty of nutrients and you can't just count on the body having that inside it that early in life. Look at what happened to the minds of orphans in Romania. That said, it's obvious that the child was fasted because of an existing condition that could not be remedied using conventional medicine.


One thing that struck me is that the posters that seem to be susceptible to these conditions seem to be going to the doctor to get blood work 4 times a year and who knows how many times outside of that. I hope this does not get taken personally but I feel that the more you go to the doctor the more you associate and focus on the negative. This obviously precludes people with existing serious health condition. The problem is that I know too many people that will blame their anxiety/stress/headache on an imagined cancer.

Also it is not hard to get a doctor to agree with you and medicate you. The world is filled with stories of people that have lived their lives medicated more so because of their ability to cope than their true physical condition. My friends mother has been using a crazy cocktail of meds most of her life. She was finally convinced to try herbal alternative treatments and she feels better than ever.

The placebo effect is VERY REAL and can be observed with REAL physical changes.


The way I see it, your mind is the government of the cells in your body. If there is corruption in your thoughts it trickles down to the lower levels.

A person that is scared worried about this fast SHOULD NOT DO IT. First take your time and educate yourself about all previous cases and nibbles of information so that you are armed well for when the challenges occur. Bottom line is that we are conditioned to believe that if we don't eat we will die, that primal fear manifests itself very easily with other symptoms. Believe it or not a person can will themselves to be sick or worse.

This is scaremongering of the highest order.

Quote....."my body i'm sure was not trained for it. as well they said the inside of my body had started to rot...my heart was deteriorating..my liver has damage now..the muscles in my legs are VERY weak im gaining my strength back"

No one has to "train" to undergo a fast because it is a natural biological process.
The body does not "rot" while fasting anymore than while eating, which is complete & utter nonsense.
The Heart muscle does not deteriorate either, or any other organ come to that, and fasting cannot damage the Liver.

The only way the above scenario could apply is if the "starvation" period had been reached, but there is of course a world of difference between the processes of fasting and starving.................

http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020127shelton.III/020127.ch6.htm


Anyone thinking of posting this kind of nonsense in the future, please refrain from doing so, unless backed by solid scientific evidence.......of which there isn't any..

Regards

Chrisb1

Thank you everybody , good that I have you !
I really got a little bit worried , what is ( Dr. Shelton says) the worst thing during the fast.

But I'm good again !

Here is a new messege from "50days"


"I was going to the regular doctor for routine bloodwork...my tongue had not cleared and i had no hunger return..and still dont, but i am eating any ways. well when i got there they did vitals, and my pulse was 140..resting so they admitted me to the emergency. it makes complete sense when you dont eat for so long, no vitamins no nothing for that long why things would be out of whack. everyone is different but i know its nothing unheard of..they said i was starving, and i was getting my energy from my muscles breaking down and organs breaking down."

I thing he sad to the doctors that he/she fast for 23 days and then they make him crazy and he got a quick puls .I am going to ask him to come to our forum .