Hi Ikota.

I did a dry fast for three days then merged into a water fast. I posted in the Fasting : water forum. I was told that it was dangerous and could cause damage to the organs ect.

I had done some research and what I learned was that day 4 was considered a critical juncture ( point of no return). Not sure if the literature I read was talking about organ failure or what not. I have read that some very experienced people have dry fasted for 7-14 days, but there have been cases where people have died on less than that. I took a graduate physiology course, and in it we were taught the human body could not survive beyond 5 days without water and 50 - or 60 days without food. New theories point to the fact that nutrient reserves and levels of hydration and fitness of the human and the diet the individual maintained may or can alter those estimates. Needless to say I believe it can be risky and one should not compromise their health for experimental sake. If you were to try this , you should consider very close medical monitoring of blood ,kidney hydration etc by a medical professional.


Yes I experienced the heat you mentioned.. Parts of my anatomy were very warm , almost like inflammation, but the tissue was healthy. What is interesting to me is that after I merged into Water Fasting I never experienced the cold chills that most water fasters report.

IF you have any new information or the information that you are talking about , I would be interested in reading it. Maybe you would care to post it.

I hope you post your fasting dry or water to the board, it would be interesting to follow.

Good luck to you.

ikota, I would like more information on dry fasting. I have never studied it and I am not sure how I feel about it. It sounds dangerous.

According to Herbert Shelton , "Voluntary or involuntary the faster must have water." He conducted fasts for 45 years.

According to Dr. Joel Fuhrman, "One quart of water per day is usually sufficient for most individuals, but some need to be encouraged to drink two or more quarts, depending on their laboratory parameters."

Also, vomiting and nausea during a fast are caused by dehydration. I have experienced vomiting while water fasting. I was told by a doctor that I was dehydrated. I have also went through periods where I do not want to drink water while fasting.

I am going to be starting a Water Fast this Saturday.

How is your lung cancer?

If you fast, water or dry, I will look forward to reading your posts!

Wishing you abundant health...

Thanks for your great information on dry fasting. It made me feel really good to read it. I experience the sensation of heat when fasting, too. I instinctively dry fast somewhat but do drink water. I am struggling to learn to fast long-term (several days or more) to alkalize my colon and (thus) heal my food addiction (and my life). Please e-mail me if you would like to. I am seeking support for the mental challenges that always get in the way off my fasting beyond about 2 and 1/4 days. Hope to hear from you. - Lauray

Hi ikota I hope your fasting is going well. I learned about fasting first through a rare book written by a doctor who strongly advocated and supervised hundreds of dry fasts through his practice in a country town in Victoria Australia, including serious illnesses such as one case of tuberculosis. It was the book that first excited me about fasting and although my first long term fasts were 10 and 30 days, they were only on a glass of water a day rather than the larger amounts I have seen suggested for water fasting.

Since then I have done three 5 day fasts, one of 6 days and my longest was 7 days just recently. I can atest to it both being more effective than water fasting, and just as safe- in that I have not experienced any worse detox symptoms on my dry fasts than I have on water fasting. I personally think that Liver Cleansing and lengthy Colon Cleanses beforehand are unnecessary seeing as how the body will cleanse what needs to be cleansed during the fast istelf. However the cleaner you start any fast the easier at least the start of that fast will be, I have found.

Dying of thirst after 5 days is very conservative. The longest I had heard man could survived without water before reading about dry fasting online recently was 10 days. Now I have read a few accounts of fasts up to 14 days. On the other hand trying to find a better water supply for my fasts recently I was reading one website advertising their water and commenting we can only last 2-3 days without it. Having now gone 7 days easily without water I find that comment laughable now.

Of course you could die of thirst much faster, if the body was already depleted of it before a fast, if you are in hotter climates etc. It is something to be vigilant of during a dry fast but not to be afraid of. I have been fasting and eating raw for an equal amount of days for the last two months and have gone into all my recent dry fasts (including my current dry fast- this is day 2) completely hydrated. The last two dry fasts before this one I have felt completely hydrated- even up to a moist mouth with an almost lingering sweet taste- for 4-5 days or more.

The first dry fast I did at the beginning of this period though a couple of months ago lasted a little over 5 days. That one was pretty full on but again not dangerous at all, just very hard work. I HAD NO PREPARATION FOR THAT FIRST FIVE DAY DRY FAST. So you can see why I don't agree with the need for lengthy preparations, fasting is it's own preparation. If you want an easier beginning to your fast, eat raw food for as long as you can prior, or have a shorter fast followed by raw food then dive in to a longer one.

I liked reading your discussion on this topic and felt my personal experience might be of interest.

Again, I hope things are going well for you.

Take care,

Andrew.

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I would be interested in joining you on your dry fast. I would like to with a partner for support and to have someone to talk to. I have tried fasting alone before and it much harder; especially towards the end of the fast where most of the healing actually takes place. I do not wish to go to a fasting center because of the high cost. So yeah, if you want to fast as well, and want a partner, let me know.