Well we have to realize that we are not in a normal christian setting here. We are bombarded with different ideas and opinions with very little periods of fun time in between just being christian friends. We don't have a leader here, like we have at church. So everything is just the opposite in our own lives...or at least I hope it is with everyone. I'm just amazed, and think it's a miracle we are still friends after all these years and after all these debates.