I agree--I would try one of yours if I needed one, but until then I can't honestly say that I know. If I refer the askers to try yours, it starts up that whole we're the same person crap, so I thought I'd back off that for a while--see if it made any difference. I assume anyone here actually not just trying to drive people away from zappers, but really wanting one will see your posts and find out for themselves hopefully.