Re: I wanna knock out this pressure and pain now...

I had this started a few hours after you posted and finally got it finished (so I haven't considered adding to what you/other posters have shared...

:::copied from the bottom of the post:::>>> I haven't taken any Valium in 6-7 days now.  Wow!  I'm guessing this means you're finished with your tapering and you're finally off (?).  If so...WOOHOO & MAJOR CONGRATULATIONS!!! 

Frustratingly, the end of a protracted taper has the potential to trigger all manner of harsh benzo withdrawal symptoms (and a few tough & expected emotional issues, too).  And if you're like most, your last cut (maybe your last few cuts) were far bigger than 10% of the previous dose - causing this last cut to be 'extremely extreme' with the resulting symptoms.  :::going back to check last known benzo-status now:::

Okay, you were at .6 mg on 10/2 and you're off on 10/30...but a standard "cut of 10% of the previous dose every 2 weeks" would put you down to .3 mg, six weeks after 10/2 - so yeah, you have to be dealing with some seriously rough symptoms from cutting that fast.  In fact, there are many (not all) that would react to a cut from ".6 to 0" in less than a month very similary to a cold-turkey withdrawal.

it's been like 6 months with it, at first everyone blamed the liver, did flushes and they didn't help. probably cause it wasn't liver, it's the colon. my bowel movements have become very thin. I can't tolerate the IF1 it causes pain, my doctor thought it was an ulcer.  'Not sure what to say here...  I'm assuming you know that your symptoms consistently add up to parasites & liver compromise; you also know that liver compromise causes 'thin stool'.  I've told you that it's very common for those with liver congestion & flukes/parasites to get good results & relief from their first few flushes (this is because the first few flushes typically clean out the gallbladder and push the liver debris forward into the flukes) and then find they're up against a major clog & congestion that requires they be extremely aggressive to break through.  You reported great relief/results from your first few flushes, and then you got worse.  That may or may not be what has happened to you - but it sure is common and certainly matches the symptoms you report.  

What I may not have mentioned (fwiw) is that it happened to me; because I didn't parasite cleanse before and during my initial liver cleansing, I actually created a huge clog (since I had liver fluke tails hanging throughout the biliary ducts, aeverytime I flushed I pushed more stones & debris forward into all the flukes...but the stones & debris couldn't get past the flukes :(  Once I finally determined what was wrong, I opted to be extremely aggressive to remedy the situation (heavy on the garlic/parasite herbs while doing 1-2 CE's daily and flushing every week for around 6 weeks).  Then it took several more bi-weekly flushes to 'get back to normal'...so I could effectively complete my series of flushes.

my doctor thought it was an ulcer Your doctor "thought" you have an ulcer.  You know what I "think" (and know) about that kind of guesswork. 

I've tried slippery elm, it didn't help. went threw bags of it. So you know that 'lack of slippery elm' wasn't part of the problem.  so perhaps it's bacteria or parasitic based inflammation. That's certainly a possibility; parasites cause congestion, and in the liver that congestion is typically followed with bacteria (and sometimes candida).  And if you're still being bombarded with the Number #1 cause of "inflammation" (EMFs & EMRs), that IS making EVERYTHING worse.  Check this out if you don't yet "get it": http://www.justproveit.net/content/biological-impacts?q=content/biological-im...

it's mainly under right rib cage.  That's the liver/gallbladder zone - and the duodenum.  But duodenal ulcer pain is typically 'centered' and reported to be 'pain in the stomach' (similary to heartburn).  When you put all your reported symptoms together, they heavily tip the scales to liver/gallbladder/parasites - even though you report a couple-three that might indicate an ulcer.

  I wanted to do if1 and if2 but the if1 causes too much pain. I will barely have a bowel movement without it though so I didn't wanna take the if2 without something.  If you can't take IF#1, then you could try triphala (wait, c'mon memory - be there for me) I think you recently mentioned using that.  Either way, the best way to ensure bm's while assisting the liver is CE's.  Another thing is prune juice.  Dr. Schulze always laughs and says something like "just drink a quart, and then tell me you're constipated!".

any ideas? I took a break from all those diets that were killing me. 'Didn't know you'd been doing "all those diets" .

seems any grains or roughage causes problems.

Yet you recently posted this >>>The pain went completely away yesterday doing a salt flush, eating only oatbran/rice bran and kefir. and taking slippery elm <<< ???

Sometimes it seems to me that anything 'causes problems'--and many times it's very correlated to your benzo schedule/status.  I'm not 'accusing you' of anything (benzos & withdrawal cause all KINDS of digestive issues); I've just been through too many 'benzo hells' with folks to not notice the correlations.  Everybody's different - some correlate

Speaking of correlating - checkout/reread your posts in this thread http://curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1999969#i1 (posted the same day/after your last cut & final dose?) - and you took charcoal which would have immediately soaked up the Valium in your blood, bringing on even harsher w/d symptoms.  You're attributing the symptoms in that thread to the use of the zapper.  Sure, killing parasites can cause some extreme symptoms...but cutting from .6 to zero in less than a month (and taking charcoal!) and posting virtually the same symptoms you've had in the past from cutting more than 10%, generally indicates ____________?

You already know that heavy roughage & cayenne can irritate the ICV issues...but that wouldn't typically present as 'under the right rib cage'.  The one diet I consider to be "perfect" is Dr. Christopher's; have you tried it? Here's a Word file you can download & check out: http://curezone.com/upload/_N_Forums/Natural_Heali/MucuslessDietDrChristopher...

once I get a handle on this I can do a liver flush again, I don't think I should be doing them if I have intestinal inflammation.  On the other hand, you might not ever be able to 'get a handle on it' without first decongesting your liver & eradicating the parasites.  The only thing that could possibly cause inflammation (if you have inflammation) is the ES.  Olive oil & lemon juice don't cause inflammation.  Salt water flushes = OMG inflammation.

I have been taking licorice root and white oak bark, but it's too early to tell if it's working.  Why are you taking them?  working on what?  And if you've changed your diet or other significant things (like making your final benzo cut), there's a good possibility you couldn't tell 'anything specific' because you'd never be able to determine what's doing what.  I always suggest: 7-10 days of being 'stable & consistent' with diet/lifestyle/therapies, add only one thing if you want to truly know the effect of that 'one thing'...and even then you might not know for a few days.

if I can't get results from some natural therapy I'm doing a colonoscopy, I'm tired of all the natural stuff that is so extreme it's killing me. Uh, pardon me...but dontchathink-maybe it's kinda nutzo-crazy-illogical to say that 'natural stuff' is extreme, so you're going to drink a chemical blend that'll rip through your gut like a razor (ripping out all the gut flora you've worked so hard at repopulating), screwing up your electrolytes from the diarrhea, and polluting your body with the chemicals.  The go to a horrorspital filled with life-threatening superbugs (and likely pulsing with toxic EMF/EMRs). Then have (likely) a benzo-twighlight anesthesia so they can 'comfortably' shove a 'scope up your ass that's so 'gentle' and 'non extreme' that's it's statistically known to cause bleeds severe enough that people DIE.  And while you're 'out of it' there's always the risk of scaring you into having 'whatever they find' "cut off or out" before you have a chance to really understand what's happening.

Oh yeah, avail yourself to the 1st leading cause of death in the US (allopathic medicine) to get away from the 'extremes' of natural healing.  I'd say some EFT about logic, fear/panic, frustration and benzo-withdrawal is definitely called for asap (at the very least).  

all the crazy diets were starving me. Nope! No diet 'starves' you and causes weight loss unless it doesn't contain adequate calories (or contains substances to which you're reactive or allergic).  Your benzo addiction and compromised physical condition is/was causing you to "starve" (not assimilate or utilize the nutrition you ingested).  It seems to me you've always ingested MORE than enough calories to maintain your weight.  However I don't know what-all 'crazy diets' you tried - so maybe they did cause some additional weight loss. 'Anorexia' IS a symptom of benzo use & withdrawal (along with parasites, liver compromise, candida, hyperammonemia, and, and, and...)

I've done multiple parasite cleanses with unusual formula or humaworm. Humaworm's got a good blend of herbs, but it's not nearly 'enough' to get rid of a major infestation in a child.  I don't know what 'unusual' formula/s you tried.   Throughout the parasite killing, what have you consistently done to ensure the rotting carcasses are out of your liver/body? 

I got sick during last cleanse and backed off but I was thinking it was causes by ammonia.  Hmmm, was that the 'cleanse' where you took 10 GRAMS of glutamine along with scads of other unnatural chemicals?  Let's be sure not blame 'natural healing' when you're taking UNnatural chemical isolates.

I'm not really taking anything except the licorice root and white oak bark. I haven't taken any Valium in 6-7 days now. I was in a circumstance where I had to eat regular food lately and have continued it to gain some weight. I hope that doesn't mean "toxic" food.

going to maybe try the specific carbohydrate diet when I get some money again, it seemed to help a lil bit but I only did the intro diet for a day before I was forced to eat regular food.   wish I could do the if1 and 2.

Consistency it not just the name of the game, it IS the only winning game!  

This--->>> maybe I'll try this; I read this might help this/that symptom; after all that reading, now I think I have "abc" & "xyc"so I'll try a bunch of different things for those things; kefir is great for me; kefir is horrible for me; this/that "diet" is good for this, but bad for this; I tried this a few times and got good results, but then decided it wasn't helping anymore so I decided to quit (or that I didn't need it)... NEVER WORKS and ALWAYS MAKES US WORSE!

The cause of all dis-ease within the body is fundamentally the same...lack of flow & congestion (from the smallest cell to the largest organ, including emotional/mental and spiritual congestion).  Stop doing what caused all the congestion; unclog it all, get out the putrefying crap & build-up (that causes the pathogens & mental compromise to be able to live & grow) and give yourself herbs, foods & juices in their most pure & whole-some form to 'fund the process'...and anybody's body WILL restore itself (as long as it's healing schematics haven't been brutally altered, ripped out or destroyed). The healer's clinical work (that this forum is based upon) and many other healers throughout the century have proven it to be true gazillions of times!    

jboy, you have 'kicked butt & taken names' navigating through Benzo Hell (as well as knocking out/back the ileocecal valve issues), and a few other 'minor issues'.  But we simply can NOT expect our bodies to undo two decades worth of damage in a year or two when that year or two is dominated by Benzo Hell...and sometimes jumping around like jack-rabbits on a trampoline with our diet & protocols.  

Trust me, I understand pain and I understand desperation (and it ain't from reading a book or hearing about it from others).  I know it inside & out from personal experience.  I understand that pain & desperation typically induces panic, fear & jumping around inconsistently...but I KNOW that these reactions only worsen the problem.  The very first thing anyone should do when they feel panic, fear & desperation is slow down and "ground & center".  Thorough knowledge based on solid empirical evidence and consistency IS the only winning strategy!

We can never read/remember this one enough! (which wolf wins?)

There's not a smidgeon of a doubt in my mind that you have the ability to knock out your health issues and become the strong & vibrant man you were born to be! 

FEED THE WINNING WOLF!

Blessings -

Uny