How to make the rest better - some tips

Hi metaphysical,

You can have stones in both the liver and gallbladder which are not detected by ultra sound because they have not calcified. The stones originate in the liver and are merely trapped in the gallbladder. Removing the gallbladder will not solve the problem. The stones continue to form in the liver, and the loss of the gallbladder has serious implications for health problems later in life.

I`ve done more than 60 flushes with no gallbladder. I`ve experimented a bit, and have also experienced a lot of gallbladder attacks before the gallbladder was removed. I`ve also experienced some of the results of having no gallbladder, such as Arthritis and migraines (present before gallbladder removal but greatly exacerbated 2 years later), and allergies (appeared 2 years later). I am actively working to avoid diabetes, which tends to occur 20 years following surgery. Both my parents have diabetes II.

Some ideas in answer to your 4 questions:

1. To increase bile production before, consume dandelion, particularly the roots; add turmeric to your food; eat beets, particularly the roots. To increase bile pressure within the liver during a flush, avoid all meats, dairy, seeds, nuts, and other forms of fat. I`ve discovered that even beans contain fat and this can activate liver contraction, even though they are not animal-origin fats. Avoid fats of all kinds the day of the flush, before drinking the Epsom Salts or OO/citrus drinks. Also, try to avoid high-impact or moderate-impact activities the before the OO/citrus drink. The Epsom Salts are the best form of magnesium to use during the flush, as described by another poster above.

2. Timing - I use the Moritz flush, which is similar to The Clark Flush in the main steps. I`ve discovered that it doesn`t really matter when you start the flush as much as keeping the timing the same for the two Epsom Salt drinks and the OO/citrus drink. ES#1, wait 2 hours, ES#2, wait 2 hours, OO/Citrus, sleep. After that, as long as you have at least 8 hours before starting on the morning Epsom Salts , you can wait a little longer. The 3rd and 4th Epsom Salts drinks should be spaced 2 hours apart for best results. Moritz recommended the same starting times as Clark because it is timed for when the various affected organs are typically active - but if you are a night person, your personal eating/work/etc habits will likely have modified when your organs are most active, even though the sun/moon does affect your body`s cycles as well. So, timing is more flexible regarding when you start, but should be kept at the same intervals between drinks for maximum effect.

3. Cleanses: The tabs at the top of the page can take you through a thorough series of cleanses. If you haven`t done colon, parasite, and cleansing yet, I strongly recommend that you do them soon. A quick series of cleanses might take about 2 months. I haven`t visited this forum for a long time so I`m not familiar with your pre-flush cleansing. There is one point which could help you with your kidney issues: Do a search, both in Curezone, and online, for BANABA TEA (notice the spelling - it`s not the yellow fruit! It`s the leaf from a tree). It can remove kidney stones in just a few days, and cleanse mildly at the tissue level if you continue to drink the tea over the course of the month. This tea is cheap, you can get it online, and it can save you agony from clogged-up, toxin-permeated kidneys. Regardless of what you use to cleanse your kidneys, I strongly urge you to do a kidney cleanse right away, and after that, every 4-6 flushes. Toxins released from the liver pass through all filtering exits from the body - lungs, skin, colon, and kidneys, and the kidneys seem to take the hardest hit. (I don`t sell Banaba tea, but I`ve benefited. Tastes like oolong x green tea.)

Water is extremely important to reduce the strain free-floating toxins play on your system in the 10 days following a flush. Neither Clark`s nor Moritz` flushes talks about this much, but you should drink lots of water before, during, and after the liver flush. You can drink water within 1 hour of any of the drinks. To increase the amount of fluids (taking toxins out) from your body, you could also take extra magnesium supplements to build up the levels of magnesium in your body, so the epsom salts are not absorbed but instead act, in part, to draw water into the colon so that the stones and toxins find their way out asap. It also helps strengthen the force of the flush if the epsom salts are not absorbed to resolve a magnesium deficiency you might have, and are instead allowed to act on the ducts and sphincter between the bile duct and intestines to the maximum effect.

4. Like you, I`m a confirmed omnivore, despite my sympathy for animals. I simply cannot stand being without meat long. I have O-type blood, and some people say that individuals with O-type blood need protein, and especially meat, more than the other blood types. I don`t know much about blood-typing and metabolism, but I do know I get horrifically cranky, anxious, and uptight without meat. I suspect there is a correlation between what our bodies need (because our bodies are unsuccessful in absorbing the nutrients from these things) and our cravings. Look at diabetics and sugar. So, like you, I can see both sides of the vegetarian/omnivore issue and would like to be vegan, but cannot.

Having said that, there are some things I found that were more likely to bring on a gallbladder attack, when I had a gallbladder. Processed meats and fatty meats were the worst. Do not eat hotdogs, processed/sandwich meats, or hamburger. Stick to low-fat meats. Be careful with eggs. Once you get your liver/gallbladder problems sorted out, you will find that eggs are among your liver`s best friends (best raw), nutritionally, but until you regain your health, be careful with eggs. Also, avoid cheese, and try to avoid dairy products. You should also assist your digestion by taking digestive enzymes, and might even supplement with ox bile if you are going to eat a very fatty meal. Oh yes, beans and avocados - healthy, but they both contain a lot of fat.

Another poster had a good idea. They said you should check into food intolerances . food intolerances indicate that you lack the ability to produce enough or any enzymes to digest a particular kind of food. Two examples are gluten intolerance (can`t digest wheat, rye, barley, and sometimes oats, among other grains) and dairy (milk, butter, cheese, yogurt, ice cream). food allergies are when food activates your immune system, with swelling and rashes being the most common symptoms. A famous example is peanut allergy. Both have different origins in physical causes and probably emotional origins. You could try an elimination diet. Start by eliminating the most common intolerances - gluten and dairy - for a few weeks. See if your symptoms persist. If they go away, add one of those food types you might be intolerant to and watch for symptoms. Then, eliminate it and try the other. There are a lot more foods people are intolerant of; to find out more, you`d have to search.

Personally, by the sounds of your symptoms, it sounds like you are having liver issues, and the gallbladder is merely the repository of the stones and other irritants.

Also, I strongly urge you to do a parasite cleanse. No matter how clean our food and water supply is, and how sanitarily it is prepared, there is always the chance that there are parasites which are blocking biliary ducts and not allowing toxins and stones to pass as they might otherwise be able to do. There are a wide variety of parasite cleanses you could try. I`ve had good success with Clarkia . I recommend you look for whatever is most practical for you.

When I had a gallbladder attack (a stone was caught in the main biliary duct), I experienced these symptoms: A pulsating, throbbing pain which began between my shoulder bladders, and which later resolved into a pulsating, sharp pain in the solar plexis area (just below the breast bone). I felt like I was being kicked in the stomach. After about 10-12 of these, digestion became uncomfortable. I felt nauseous during some of these attacks. I`d have 5 weeks of peace, followed by 2 weeks when an attack could happen after any fatty meal. After about 18 attacks (2 years) I felt a bar of grinding, low-grade pain across the bottom of where the ribs join at the front, and my back was stiff from below the skull to the top of my hips. It did not seem to matter how much meat I ate, although after awhile, I didn`t eat much meat. Any fatty meal - including non-meat meals - could set off an attack. I also felt pin-points of aggravation under the right side of my rib cage, sometimes deep inside, sometimes closer to the middle-inside edge of the ribs at the front, always on the right side. Just before I had the surgery, my skin changed to a light coffee-colour. I was never diagnosed with jaundice, but I think it was a close thing.

Now that my liver is missing a gallbladder, you would think that these symptoms have stopped. A few have. I`ve only experienced the severe pain of a "gallbladder attack" once, when a stone got lodged in the biliary duct between the liver and intestines during a flush. An extra glass of water with epsom salts and that was gone within 30 minutes. I often get pin-points of irritation - where they used to occur before. Now, I know I need to do a maintenance parasite cleanse (rarely) or a flush (95% of the time), and with the next flush, the pin-point of aggravation is gone. If I don`t do a flush, the aggravation goes away after a few days - the stone has moved into a more "comfortable" spot - but I still do a flush asap, because otherwise the irritation will reappear in a new spot later. I no longer get the pain between the shoulder blades but I sometimes do in the solar plexus area, but nothing like it used to be, and it always goes away with a flush.

I hope that my case is rare, that most people can deal with getting rid of stones easily when the stones are small, if they just do a proper series of flushes until they get 3 stone-less flushes in a row, and then do maintenance flushes a few times a year. I listen to my body. When I get the twing-irriation feeling in the liver area, it`s time for a flush. I do one every 6-8 weeks, and I will for life. Thanks to flushing, I only get 1 migraine a year now, and the allergies and Arthritis are 95% gone. Some people need to give their livers this extra boost to stay healthy.

I hope this very long email helps you, both with some tips and symptom description.

Good luck!

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