Clarity

Hi folks,
I thought it would be best if I elaborated just a bit on the issue of "off-topic", as WY puts it. ( When I posted the forum subheading, it was in the interests of a simple reminder to anyone--it's very easy to *not see* what is directly in front of one day after day, if the whole tenor of the surround is allowed to 'morph' into something it isn't, or rather, wasn't.)

I -and I think some others too- ( :-)) have no issue with what is "off-topic", when it relates to the broader context of Natural Hygiene, or whatever better name anyone can come up with;let's say, the lifestyle that embraces the water fast, and contributes to it, as well as benefiting from it.
Myabe it would be good now and then to put "off-topic" into the heading, but usually people DO put something there that would alert others: like "just thinking". And this kind of musing is often really wonderful.
It's when the general dialogue, (and guidance shared) begins to be coming from a context of calorie-counting, weight loss primarily, and a numbers fixation (all these befitting the "weight loss" forum, or the "fasting debate" forum, as this forum subheading advises) that the whole thing falls apart. There are countless hours that many people have devoted to this forum in the interests of leading people out of deception.

What I see with some of the (frankly off-topic) postings is that they are off-topic from before the beginning. Please give this some reflection. If you are someone posting who continually has to state that others do not agree with you, or are someone who believes that sugar-substitutes are fine on a water fast, as long as it's "0 calories", you owe it to a sense of respect for a proven tradition(and, to self-respect)
to take your posts to the appropriate forum, where you are not undermining the fabric and integrity of this one.
You will know the truth of where you stand on this, by just honest reflection.(Not the reflection in the mirror, which NH has taught us, is a transient and ephemeral thing, but by looking "within". That kind of honest self-reflection.)
Of course, this might sound like paramilitary policing(to WY for example, and others)but that doesn't mean it is. People have been fooling themselves since forever--and yet, even many of those have seen another way, seen a whole 'sea change', after completing a water fast according to their visions of one! This post is just a call to the ability to discern enough to put apples with apples, oranges with oranges.

I won't be back to this thread, but others will, so please do not post something in reply in anger, or from an imagined personal insult or attack. This post of mine is arising from my wish to partially pay my 'debt' to others who've come before, (yes, and after!) and who've given, as they have learned, pure and selfless -and most important, true- guidance to others, even at the cost of being 'liked', or seen.


best to all, C