Re: NEW ideas for Andy Cutler Protocol! tapering off dosages, lenth of cycles , sweating, etc
Quick background of myself:
- I am 20 years old.
- I am mercury poisoned.
- Hair Analysis readout: (3.5 ug/g) Reference Range being (<0.80 ug/g). So I'm slightly over 4x the limit according to Doctors Data Laboratories.
- I have never had any Amalgams. I was poisoned in the Summer of 2009 (just over 1 year ago) from excessive tuna consumption. (2 cans+ a day on average)
- I thought I was copper poisoned for a long time (same symptoms), but later found out it was Mercury poisoning.
-----It could be both. Many people have mercury + copper.
-Discovered it was mercury in May, 2010 (4 months ago).
-From the beginning of June to the end of July (about 2 months) I was chelating with probably the worst set of supplements possible: ALA (300mg twice daily), Chlorella (6000mg-10,000mg/day), Cilantro (about a handful/day).
- Those of you reading considering using Chlorella or Cilantro -> DONT!!!!!.
- All my symptoms have become far more prominent since doing so. Most likely from concentrating the mercury in my brain/liver from improper protocol.
-----Sounds like it's me writing your post. I did the same thing and almost died 6 months ago. Cilantro + chlorella. Then I found Andy's protocol and have been doing it right since. I am young too... just 18 years old.
- I have just started the Andy Cutler protocol. Have done 2 rounds of just DMSA (25mg/dose) 3 days on 3 days off as of Sept 10th, 2010.
-----Good. Keep the dosing between 1/8 and 1/2mg/lb
Ok so there was my breif introduction so you know where I'm coming from.
Now onto the NEW IDEAS!
IDEA #1 - Tapering Off Dosages at end of cycle. For example doing a 3 day cycle you would do everything normal as per the Andy Cutler Protocol, say 75mg/dose. But the twist would be at the end of the cycle during the last 3 doses would go as follows 75mg/50mg/25mg. My thought process on this is that it would reduce the mercury redistribution at the end of the cycles as it would slowly reduce levels of DMSA in the blood rather than just completely stopping all of a sudden. I would LOVE to hear everyones opinions on this as I've never read about anyone doing this and think it would definitely be worth it over the 50 rounds of chelating.
-----Bad idea. Andy says no and it is dangerous.
IDEA #2 - Doing 1 week cycles instead of 3 days cycles. This idea isn't really new as it is listed in Andy's book but I never see anyone actually doing it and was wondering if there is some kind of negative effect of it? In my opinion it would be better because there would be less mercury redistribution because you would only be stopping the DMSA once compared to twice in the same amount of time.
-----1 week cycles are OK. Keep the dose low enough that side effects are tolerable. If the lack of sleep from waking doesn't bother you then it is perfectly fine to do 1 week rounds. If your suffering though, 3 days on is just fine.
IDEA #3 - Sweating excessively day after ending of a chelating cycle. In this link:
http://onibasu.com/archives/am/1498.html
, Andy explains that sweating reduces blood level of mercury. What I was thinking was that the day after finishing a round going for a run with a garbage bag on or going to a sauna would be an excellent idea to get rid of whatever the DMSA left behind in your blood, helping you to recover quicker from the cycles then if you were to do nothing.
-----This is true that sweating helps reduce extracellular mercury. I wouldn't suggest the sweating route... low doses of DMSA or DMPS work just fine. DMPS is better if you have no lead and can get a Rx for it.
So there they are! I would love to hear everyone opinions and if they have ever done any of them and their experiences!
-----We are very similar...both young....both mercury toxic....and both took cilantro/chlorella and hurt ourselves really bad. You are on the right track to good helath. Andy is a really remarkable man who has put a lot of effort into devising the most effective and logical protocol there is. If you haven't been tuna recently and have had no
Amalgams it would probably be safe to start ALA. The mercury that is causing the problems is intracellular... DMSA doesn't help for that. What you probably did with the ALA doses and Cilantro was force a bunch of mercury into your brain and that is the problem. A few months of DMSA or DMPS would be OK and then you could add the ALA. You could ask over on the yahoo groups since your situation is different because it is from fish and not amalgams. Good luck bud!
I was trying to be as brief as possible as to not make this post a novel, so if theres anything not explained in enough detail for you let me know and I'll straighten it out!