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Re: Echo chamber culture of the quack movement.
 
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Re: Echo chamber culture of the quack movement.


From what I have read on the sciencebasedmedicine blog, it is basically a glorified web-chapter of propaganda-R-us.

An excellent example of just the kind of rhetoric the is mentioned.

As usual the majority of the commenters See Science as being infallible, forgetting the most important theory that even Einstein(though he did his best) could not even disprove..

Actually, the commenter see science as science and the accusation is more rhetoric.

.it's called the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle.
Why are you bringing up quantum mechanics?

The problem with blogs like that, is they lack conscience.

They deal with evidence.

Its all about enforcing their vaccine dogma.

Another false accusation made in the absence of facts.  So far this has been an excellent example of what the author critiques about alt-med sites, all blustering attacks with no facts.

Psuedo-science blogs are part of the new religion where self proclaimed experts indoctrinated by the establishment maintain such a level of cognitive dissonance that changing course is not an option.

Not self proclaimed.  Unlike the many self proclaimed experts here, these bloggers have hold MD, PhD, DVM degrees.

None of the articles I have read on the site have any sort of objectivity.

All of the ones I read were highly objective relying on feelings but on data.  That is as objective as you can get.

They seem to think people in alternative medicine are against science, when the truth is to the contrary.

Views like the ones generally expressed here indicates that altmed proponents are against science.  Or at the very least don't understand how science is conducted and it's limitations.

Having a conscience means being with and against systematic knowledge.

That is not having a conscience.  Systematic knowledge has been responsible for all our advances in the past 350 years.

Proclaimed truth requires trust,

Science doesn't deal with truth, that is an abstract philosophical concept.  Scientists speak about facts.


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Part of the scientific method is observation.   Mankind has observed herbal and natural remedies to work for thousands of years -

That's wrong. Many of the so-called cure have turned out to be absolutely useless.  Of course for thousands of years humans had very little choice since modern organic chemistry is only about 200 years old. However in that short time, it has managed to make far more progress than in the past 30 000 years of human existence.

and it is patently absurd for any thinking person to believe naysayers who would tell us that nature is ineffective or that only unnatural patented compounds in forms not found in nature are effective.
A straw man argument since this argument is not being made.

The problem with so-called science based medicine is that the science of any age is often proven to be the quackery of tomorrow. 

Same kind of rhetoric as in the first post.

Those who believe that today's science has all or even most of the answers are more guilty of making their beliefs a religion than are those who favor natural and alternative healing. 

Another strawman argument.  Only the anti-science people are making this claim and projecting it on others.

Should I point out that sciencebasedmedicine is a mainstream site who picks and chooses studies and so-called science to disprove virtually anything that is not something that is approved, controlled and profited from by mainstream medicine?
Another false claim.  They do not discriminate as long as it is real science.  Since this audience may need a refresher they should look in wikipedia which has excellent articles on science,  Pseudoscience, Fringe science, Junk science, and Cargo cult science

Maybe a good clue as to the slant of that site is that the person who wrote the blog you quote also wrote how much he admired the thoroughly discredited big pharma shill Stephen Barrett and even said that he was flattered to be compared to him.  That tells me all I need to know about that site.  Here is a good look at his hero, Stephen Barrett and the fallacies of science based medicine:

An excellent example of what they write about.  Attacking the person with scurrilous claims.  BTW this is called poisoning the well which we can add to the strawman.

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All in all a vindication of everything written in the blog.

 

 

 
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