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Re: --answer--Bee Pollen--Good or Bad for Us?--
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Re: --answer--Bee Pollen--Good or Bad for Us?--

Your comment regarding poison's everywhere is exactly what
I said, so you did agree with me.

I don't know why you put everything in comment/answer format and repeat large bodies of text, it's a valuable waste of space and hard to read with all the clutter.
I have never read anything on CZ that I couldn't tell the reference too. Also I never asked you anything that needed an answer, but I have one question as you'll read.

There's a big difference between wanting to and acknowledging one is ingesting poison's.

Bee pollen is one of the most revered, tested and analyzed foods on the planet, I would think by now it would have been pointed out by those having expert knowledge on the subject that we are poisoning ourselves by eating it.

It is also essential for the survival of the eco-system (the planet). So if you think bee-pollen is poisoned then that also applies to everything else, it's very logical.

Simply prove that there are more poisons in bee pollen using any type of comparative analysis. Do you have knowledge of any studies showing this to be true, other than what everyone already knows, that to some extent most everything on this planet is poisoned. So by virtue of breathing ( in most modern populated areas) we are all knowingly ingesting poison but would otherwise choose not too.

For example, depending on what Chinese region where Goji berries are harvested from will tell the buyer roughly how many chemicals are used in their production. Those grown without chemicals can still be obtained if again the sellers are to be believed. But all Goji berries sold are farmed not wild-harvested, so one has to be a bit cautious. Are you going to China to check out your supplier or you going to take someone's word for it? Hint, the Heaven Mountain region is one such region claiming purity.

Bee pollen is a little more difficult to prove the source since in general it is not farmed per-se. Most pollen is not "crop" pollen, therefore is not sprayed with chemicals, although wind currents will carry it to other areas. Some bee-pollen claimed to be obtained in pure, pristine environments (like Canada) needs study since one is taking the word of those selling it.

Since Goji berries mirror bee-pollen in terms of popularity and since there have been exhaustive studies done on both it is a valid comparison regarding purity (ie chemicals). I have read many articles claiming what I already stated regarding the purity of Goji berries according to region, but none have I ever seen on bee-pollen and bee-pollen has been studied and written about at least 100 times more. Goji of course being very popular because of MLM's and $'s, contrasted with those on pollen clearly more altruistic in nature.

I also noticed you mentioned ingesting RJ. Royal Jelly is probably 100X more concentrated than pollen and is created by a process that if any poisons were involved the hive would die. Since the bees are dying by presumably ingesting contaminated seed by-products or just sprayed chemicals and not the hives where all bee-products come from, the claim that pollen is a poisonous food is a huge leap (in any concentration). To wit the bees are dying not the hives is very telling as opposed to the bees are bringing back to the hive poisonous products. Bees are all about the colony and protection of the colony, so the idea that a bee would return to the hive with something other than grade-A products is spurious.

Further name any food, grass-fed beef, raw milk, etc. that the same logic regarding poisons does not apply. Wheat-grass, how do you know that the very seeds you are growing the wheat-grass with are not contaminated? You don't, not unless you work in a lab with some very specialized equipment. What about the water filter you use to create the water for the wheat-grass, you sure that the removed substances apply to your water supply, equipment and filter age? Or how about the spring the water came from or the plastic bottle it sat in, in all weather?

Now the only real question here (the rest are rhetorical):

For everyone's edification can you please indicate the studies showing that bee pollen is poisonous and in comparison to other foods? I don't mean someone pontificating on the subject but real actual studies with facts, such as bee pollen from region A-Z, levels of nutrients, levels of contaminants, etc. by a reputable company, university or lab.


PS BTW, just so we're clear "my line of thinking" is the facts.

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