ok, but you really didn't address my main concern. you are right ropkopf has no more credibility than anyone you might link to, thus any various things you might read on the net should be taken with a grain of salt.
there are sites that say the secret NWO agenda to eradicate 85% of the population of th worlds exists, and other sites which say it doesn't. so there you have it.
tony seems very certain that he KNOWS such a thing exists so i asked what his basis for being so certain is. and i asked for something more than an internet reference.
the thing is i dont believe ropkopf anymore than i believe anything else on the net. you have to take all this as a whole and most of it with a grain of salt.