hi plzchuckle...thanks, I should have given more info in my post. I've been at this for so long, I've tried so many things. a few of the things that have worked, I keep with..and lbb is one of them. I still use it. just as you say, it's not caused dependence with me, and over time, I need very little of it now, as long as I keep a good diet too. but I don't feel it's made much impact on plaque, if indeed there is any there. either that, or it's just the burden of parasites that's keeping me looking pregnant. which could be. I was under the impression that plaque and parasites go hand in hand, I don't know if this is correct. it feels to be true to me though. I will keep at it...boy it gets frustrating, but I suppose not all terrible, I am much better than I once was.