Re: Did Jesus say He is God ?

One of the most outrageous things you have said, squarecurl, is that "Jesus didn't pray to Himself" (is there some kind of actual reasoning here?).

The final result of the revelation OF Jesus Christ was that it was given TO John ("...by sending his angel TO his servant John").


Is this the question that you are suggesting I didn't answer?
"Who does this verse say gave Jesus the Revelation?"

There is no possible way you could actually believe that, after reading my post, I did not provide any indication of an ANSWER/solution to that question (unless you completely disregarded what I wrote because seeking an "answer" is not your purpose here). You should at least have been able to sense that I was disagreeing that the purpose of the revelation was that it was TO John, not simply shared with John.

It is true that the Father initially gave the revelation to Jesus, but for the purpose "to show his servants", and the way that it was done was by "sending an angel" TO John.

It is of little consequence whether that SINGLE VERSE is thought to mean that the revelation was FOR Jesus or John (because the rest of the BOOK makes it clear that the revelation was TO John), but a SINGLE VERSE should never be taken out of context ("verse Christians" and GODLY Christians are two different things).

If this is the question that you are suggesting I didn't answer...
Did/Does God have a beginning or end?

that's because you don't offer any reasoning (REASON, not CURIOUS attitude) for ASKING/presenting the question (it is a nonsensical question). This is a DEBATE forum, not a "nonsensical question" forum. Intelligent people can only properly debate intelligent questions (yes, questions do have to have some kind of reasoning behind them, for INTELLIGENT people). What GOOD reason do you have for asking that question in the first place (if any, is your reason GOOD/legitimate?, or are you simply attempting to suggest doubt and uncertainty in order to disrupt Godly beliefs?)

You went on to say "Also..." like your intention is to only cast/suggest one doubt after another.

For whose benefit were you thinking out loud when you wrote this...
"I think that the reason most people think that Jesus is God is because of the trinity doctrine" (suggesting more doubt).

I'm sure you feel satisfied that you argued your way out of everything I posted by REPLYING (not ANSWERING) to each point in my previous post, but your reply to the "chapter/book" mistake you made ("Perhaps...") was simply "nothing to be proud of". I have no doubt that you will now hone your skills to attack Christian beliefs, but in doing so, you will at least learn not to insult our intelligence by calling a chapter a "BOOK"...DUH! (and maybe The Lord will get to someday teach you about GODLINESS).