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Jock Doubleday, director of the California non-profit corporation Natural Woman, Natural Man, Inc., has offered $75,000 to the first medical doctor or pharmaceutical company CEO who publicly drinks a mixture of standard vaccine additives.
The additives would be the same as those contained in the vaccines recommended for a 6-year-old according to U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) guidelines, and the dose would be body-weight calibrated. It would include, but not be limited to:
Thimerosal (a mercury derivative)
Ethylene glycol (antifreeze)
Phenol (a disinfectant dye)
Aluminum
Benzethonium chloride (a disinfectant)
Formaldehyde (a preservative and disinfectant)
On August 1, 2007, if no one has taken the challenge, the offer will be increased to $90,000 and will increase at a rate of $5,000 per month until someone accepts.
Vaccination Liberation Press Release
Jock Doubleday’s vaccination Liberation
Not surprisingly, this offer has been on the table since 2001, but no one has been willing to take that toxic chemical cocktail -- except for the children who innocently go in for their routine vaccinations. With the average amount of loans for medical students now well in excess of $100,000 you might have thought some doctor would have tried to cash n on this so they could accelerate the payment of their student loans.
In addition to the vaccine additives listed above, others can include ammonium sulfate, amphotericin B, pig blood, rabbit brain, monkey kidney, betapropiolactone, tri(n)butylphosphate, and a laundry list of other chemicals. The mercury-based preservative thimerosal, in particular, is dangerous. Mercury is a poison and potent neurotoxin. Injecting it into a child, whose nervous system is rapidly developing, can have terrible consequences.
From the evidence I have reviewed and my own clinical experience it is clear that mercury is one of the reasons autism skyrocketed in the last 10 years. Autism has started to decrease now that some the vaccines have eliminated mercury, but be wary; many vaccines still do contain thimerosal, no matter what you may have heard.
And even those vaccines without thimerosal still contain an incredible number of dangerous chemicals. When the mercury is removed, it is typically replaced with another toxic additive that is frequently just as health-harming. The aluminum hydroxide used in many vaccines has been linked to symptoms associated with Parkinson's, ALS, and Alzheimer's. Phenols, methanol, isopropyl, and 2-pheoxyethanol are other ingredients which are corrosive or toxic.
The bottom line is, if you are a parent and are considering vaccinating your child, please read up on the potentially devastating side effects of vaccines before doing so. It could mean the difference between life and death. Avoid the fear mongering and take some time to read ALL sides of the issue, not just the propaganda conventional pediatrician will present to you. Most educated parents that I know that have done a careful analysis of the data invariably chose not to vaccinate their children.
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Maybe the reason no one has "followed through" on the challenge are all the hoops contestants are supposed to jump through before "qualifying":
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This is a reply to # 922,229Or maybe the reasons are the same ones that led over 75% of oncologists surveyed to report that they would not opt to have chemo?
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"We have no real proof of the boasted effectiveness of any form of anti-toxin or vaccine or serum... If such a vaccinated or immunised person contracts the disease which he is supposed to be protected, it is pretty good evidence that such "protection" is valueless, isn't it? Surely people do contract disease against which they are supposed to be immunised, as we all know.... Well, are you satisfied that WE ARE QUACKS? In the eyes of those who are willing to forgot the present prestige of medicine, such as it is, with all its dignity, its scientific jargon, its pratings of altruism, its great endowment, its well heralded "achievements," we are most assuredly quacks, professing to do things we cannot do, and yes, taking money under this pretence." Dr. Paul M. Koonin, D.D.Sc.
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This is a reply to # 922,277Thimerosal was removed from the most common childhood vaccines in the U.S. in 2002 (even before that in other countries).
If thimerosal caused autism, its removal should have resulted in a dramatic decline in autism by now. Instead, the autism rate has remained steady or increased.
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All the evidence says you are wrong:
BMJ 2002;325:1134 ( 16 November )
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MMR vaccine is not linked with autism, says Danish study
Janice Hopkins Tanne
, New York A Danish study of more than half a million children showed no link between measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccination and autism.
In a commentary accompanying the study, which was published in the New England Journal of Medicine (2002;347:1477-82)
[Abstract/Free Full Text] , Dr Edward Campion, senior deputy editor, wrote, "This careful and convincing study shows that there is no association between autism and MMR vaccination."Lead author Dr Kreesten Meldgaard Madsen, an epidemiologist and expert on infectious diseases at the Danish Epidemiology Science Centre in Aarhus, told the BMJ that the study showed that the risk of autism was similar in children who were vaccinated and children who were not.
The study reviewed records of 537303 children born in Denmark between January 1991 and December 1998, representing almost 100% of children born in that period. Of these children 440655 had been vaccinated. Records were retrieved from three sources: the unique identification number assigned to each child at birth; MMR vaccination data reported to the National Board of Health by general practitioners, who give all MMR vaccinations and are reimbursed for their reports; and diagnoses of autism recorded in the Danish Psychiatric Central Registry. Only specialists in child psychiatry diagnose autism and related conditions.
The study considered the children's sex, weight and gestational age at birth, and age at diagnosis of autism or of a related disorder; the socioeconomic status of the parents; and the mother's education.
The authors found that "There was no increase in the risk of autistic disorder or other autistic-spectrum disorders among vaccinated children as compared with unvaccinated children (adjusted relative risk of autistic disorder, 0.92; 95% confidence interval, 0.68 to 1.24; adjusted relative risk of other autistic-spectrum disorders, 0.83; 95% confidence interval, 0.65 to 1.07)."
In addition, the authors found no association between the development of autistic disorder and the age at vaccination, the interval since vaccination, or the calendar period at the time of vaccination.
Children were vaccinated at 15 to 17 months, and catch up vaccination was given to older children when the vaccine was introduced in 1987. Almost all children were vaccinated before the age of 3 years. The mean age at diagnosis for autism was 4 years, 3 months, and for autistic spectrum disorders 5 years, 3 months.
Although MMR vaccination was introduced in Denmark in 1987, the rise in autism began only in the mid-1990s. "If it [MMR vaccination] caused autism, we would see a greater risk [soon] after its introduction," Dr Madsen said, but the study did not show that. Autism is increasing, perhaps because of better diagnosis, but there is no link to MMR vaccination, he said.
The retrospective nature of the study may be its strength, Dr Madsen told the BMJ. Recall bias, such as when parents whose children are given a diagnosis of autism recall events that occurred around the time of the diagnosis, was absent. In this study, data on vaccination were recorded separately from data on diagnosis.
MMR vaccination protects children against disease, Dr Madsen said. "Measles kills one in 3000 children, even in developed countries. It causes encephalitis in one in 2000 and pneumonia in one in 20. People tend to forget."Advertisement
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This is a reply to # 922,290All the evidence? I beg to differ.
Evidence often depends on who funded the studies and who conducted them. Who did fund and conduct the Danish studies? I saw one study with a misleading headline (a common practice lately) that took 47 mothers, then dropped 31 of them to manipulate the data, and even then mis-reported the results on mercury and autism. Turns out the hidden source of funding was non other than Johnson & Johnson, the leading manufacturer of the vaccine being studied.
Industry studies have at one time or another disavowed links between cigarettes and cancer, claimed microwave oven and television emissions were sage at levels 100s of times greater than today.
Like high emission power lines, cellular phones and microwave ovens, there is no shortage of industry backed studies saying they are safe - and to admit otherwise would be catastrophic.
Regardless of who funded the Danish Study in 2002 you cite, one would think that such a large sampling would have been definitive. If so, why the continuing studies and concerns? Why THIS study in 2006:
New study links mercury to autism
Level of disorder dropped dramatically after element removed from vaccines
Posted: March 3, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.comA new study shows a direct relationship between mercury in children's vaccines and autism, contradicting government claims there is no proven relationship between the two.
Published in the March 10 issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, the data show since mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the reported rates of autism and other neurological disorders in children not only stopped increasing but actually dropped sharply – by as much as 35 percent.
Using the government's own databases, independent researchers analyzed reports of childhood neurological disorders, including autism, before and after removal of mercury-based preservatives.
According to a statement from the Association of American Physicians & Surgeons, or AAPS, the numbers from California show that reported autism rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had continued, the reports would have risen to more than 1,000 by the beginning of 2006. But the number actually went down to 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a decrease from the projection of 35 percent.
Stated the AAPS: "This analysis directly contradicts 2004 recommendations of the Institute of Medicine, which examined vaccine safety data from the National Immunization Program of the CDC. While not willing to either rule out or to corroborate a relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM soft-pedaled its findings and decided no more studies were needed."
As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the toxic threshold set by many government agencies, the physicians' group explained.
Up until about 1989, pre-school children got only three vaccines – polio, DPT and MMR. By 1999, the CDC recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before children reach the first grade, including Hepatitis B, which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In the 1990s, approximately 40 million children were injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
The rate of autism skyrocketed between 1989 and 2003. Currently, there are more than a half million children in the U.S. who have autism.
In 1999, on the recommendation of the American Academy of Pediatrics and U.S. Public Health Service, thimerosal was removed from most childhood vaccines as a "precautionary" measure. There was no admission of any causal link between thimerosal and autism.
The authors of the new report, David A. Geier, B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D., believe consumers should still be concerned about mercury, as it is still added to some of the most commonly used vaccines, such as those for flu.
States the report: "Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004, the Institute of Medicine of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible. … As a result, assessing the safety of [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant importance."
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This is a reply to # 922,320We must use different methods of reading.
Excerpts from:
Early Downward Trends in Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines
David A. Geier, B.A.
Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D.
Contemporaneously with the epidemic rise in neurodevelopmental disorders (NDs), first observed in the United States during the 1990s, the childhood immunization schedule was expanded by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to include several additional thimerosal-containing vaccines (TCVs). On July 7, 1999, a joint recommendation was made by the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and the U.S. Public Health Service (PHS) to remove thimerosal from vaccines. A two-phase study was undertaken to evaluate trends in diagnosis of new NDs entered into the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental Services (CDDS) databases on a reporting quarter basis, from 1994 through 2005. Significant increasing trends in newly diagnosed NDs were observed in both databases 1994 through mid-2002. Significant decreasing trends in newly diagnosed NDs were observed in both databases from mid-2002 through 2005. The results indicate that the trends in newly diagnosed NDs correspond directly to the expansion and subsequent contraction of the cumulative mercury dose to which children were exposed from TCVs through the U.S. immunization schedule.
The findings of the present study are also further supported by recent clinical studies examining the body burden of mercury and mercury susceptibility in children with NDs. Bradstreet et al. showed that, following chelation, urinary concentration of mercury was significantly greater, by a factor of approximately six, in autistic children compared with neurotypical children, whereas urinary cadmium and lead concentrations were similar. Matched vaccinated and unvaccinated neurotypical children had similar urinary mercury concentration following chelation. Holmes et al. examined first baby haircuts and determined that autistics had significantly higher body burdens of mercury in comparison to nonautistic matched controls, by demonstrating that the mercury level in hair, and thus the ability to excrete mercury, was inversely proportional to the severity of autism and overall much lower in the autistic group. James et al. have evaluated biochemical susceptibility to mercury in autistic children, in comparison to age-and gender-matched control children, by evaluating the methionine cycle and transsulfuration metabolites. They found a significant 46% decrease in the plasma concentration of glutathione, a necessary metabolite for the excretion of mercury from the body. Additionally, autistic children had significantly increased oxidative stress, as shown by a three-fold decrease in the glutathione/oxidized glutathione redox ratio, in comparison to control children, which would correlate with a significant body burden of mercury.
Conclusions
The present controlled assessment of VAERS and CDDS databases shows that very specific NDs are associated with TCVs. This conflicts with the 2004 conclusions of the IOM, largely based upon examination of vaccine safety data from the National Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. The IOM stated that the evidence favored rejection of a causal relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such a relationship was not biologically plausible, and that no further studies should be conducted to evaluate it.
From data presented here and other emerging data, it appears clear that additional research should be undertaken concerning the effects of mercury exposure, particularly from TCVs. This is especially true in light of the fact that the handling of vaccine safety data by the NIPhas recently been called into question by the IOM.
Should you need further evidence, I suggest following these links at theNational Autism Association library: (http://www.nationalautismassociation.org/library.php):
Note the highlighted refutation of the study you posted earlier:
Bibliography of Thimerosal, Immune and Gastrointestinal Studies that NAA feels are relevant.
May 2005Evidence of Collusion
The National Vaccine Advisory Committee Sponsored Workshop on Thimerosal Vaccines
Day One, Day Two
and
Scientific Review of Vaccine Safety Datalink Information
The Simpsonwood Documents
Safe Mind’s Assessment
The Simpsonwood Documents (selected quotes)Thimerosal
Comparison of Blood and Brain Mercury Levels in Infant Monkeys Exposed to
Methylmercury or Vaccines Containing Thimerosal
This NIH-funded study, conducted by Dr. Thomas Burbacher, a University of Washington researcher, found that Thimerosal, best known for its use as an ethylmercury-based preservative in infant vaccines and pregnancy shots, is actually more toxic to the brain than methylmercury (MeHg).Comparison of organic and inorganic mercury distribution in suckling rat
Published in the Journal of Applied ToxicologyThimerosal Neurotoxicity is Associated with Glutathione Depletion: Protection with Glutathione Precursors
Jill James, et al - November 2004A published study showing genetically susceptible mice will develop autistic symptoms when exposed to thimerosal.
Neurotoxic effects of postnatal thimerosal are mouse strain dependent.Biochemical and molecular basis of thimerosal-induced apoptosis in T cells: a major role of mitochondrial pathway
Apoptosis in T Cells by Thimerosal 3/03Thimerosal induces DNA breaks, caspase-3 activation, membrane damage, and cell death in cultured human neurons and fibroblasts.
Baskin Thimerosal Study 6/03Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines and Neurodevelopment Outcomes
Boyd Haley Affidavit 9/03This study presents the first epidemiologic evidence, based upon tens of millions of doses of vaccine administered in the United States, that associates increasing Thimerosal from vaccines with neurodevelopmental disorders.
Neurodevelopmental Disorders after TCV's - GeiersActivation of methionine synthase by insulin-like growth factor-1 and dopamine: a target for neurodevelopmental toxins and thimerosal
Deth and Waley Molecular Psychiatry 2004This analysis describes the concerns which Safe Minds has over a recently published study in The Lancet by Michael Pichichero et al.(1) in which blood measurements were taken of infants after administration of vaccines containing thimerosal. The article and accompanying commentary contain several sweeping statements about thimerosal safety:
Safe Minds Assessment of the Pichichero Thimerosal StudyEli Lilly - Thimerosal Material Safety Data Sheet
Revised in June, 1991Immunoadsorption is increasingly used to treat antibody-mediated autoimmune diseases.To prevent microbial growth during storage, reusable protein A gel columns are primed with ethyl mercury thiosalicylate (thiomersal,0.1% solution) and rinsed with phosphate buffer before use. In this study,we tested the hypothesis of systemic mercury exposure in protein A immunoadsorption
Thimerosal Exposure in Immuno adsorption Austria 1-04Effect of thimerosal, a preservative in vaccines, on intracellular Ca(2+) concentration of rat cerebellar neurons
Toxicology 1-04Danish Thimerosal-Autism Study in Pediatrics: Misleading and Uninformative on Autism-Mercury Link by Mark Blaxill (NOTE: This is a refutation of the study you posted)
Danish Thimerosal Autism Study
Failure of inactivated influenza A vaccine to protect healthy children aged 6 to 24 months - Is the CDC recommending exposure to thimerosal for an ineffective vaccine?
Pediatrics International - August 2003
Flu Vaccine
Failure of inactivated influenza A vaccine to protect healthy children aged 6-24 months
Published in Pediatrics InternationalEffectiveness of Influenza Vaccine during Pregnancy in Preventing Hospitalizations and Outpatient Visits for Respiratory Illness in Pregnant Women and Their Infants
Published in the American Journal of Perinatology
MMR
Commentary: MMR and Autism in Perspective: the Denmark Story
An Investigation of the Association Between MMR Vaccination and Autism in Denmark 8/04
This study is the latest in a series that examines the relationship between persistent measles virus infection and regressive autism.
Detection of Measles Virus Genomic RNA in Cerebrospinal Fluid of Children with Regressive Autism: a Report of Three Cases.Elevated Levels of Measles Antibodies in Children with Autism
Singh Elevated MV Antibody Titers 2003Assessment of the Denmark MMR-Autism Study
Denmark MMR Study Assessment
Vaccine Safety Datalink
Generation Zero Full Analysis with Charts - Safe Minds 2004
Thomas Verstraeten’s First Analyses of the Link Between
Vaccine Mercury Exposure and the Risk of Diagnosis of
Selected Neuro-Developmental Disorders Based on Data from
the Vaccine Safety Datalink: November-December 1999Generation Zero Synopsis - Safe Minds 2004
Verstraeten - It Just Won't Go Away
Vaccine Safety Datalink Study, Feb. 2000 (Generation 1)
Author, Thomas Verstraten. CDC study examining the link between thimerosal containing vaccines and neurodevelopmental disorders.Vaccine Safety Datalink Study, June. 2000 (Generation 2)
The latest variation of Verstraeten's study which was discussed at Simpsonwood.A CDC official who helped write the study accepted the critics charge that it contained many children too young to be diagnosed as autistic. “This is true, said scientist Frank DeStefano”
Missing the Mercury Menace, National Journal 1/04Analysis and critique of the CDC’s handling of the Thimerosal exposure assessment based on vaccine safety datalink (VSD) information
VSD SafeMinds Critique
Aluminum
Aluminum in Vaccines
The Workshop on Aluminum in Vaccines, Puerto Rico, May 11, and 12, 2000
The full transcripts of a U.S. government-sponsored scientific meeting on aluminum and vaccines. The meeting raised concerns that aluminum may trigger adverse reactions. These are two large PDF files.
Part One - Part Two
Political ActionLetter to the Office of Special Counsel
Requesting an investigation of the FDA and CDCInstitute of Medicine
Statement of Rep. Dave Weldon, M.D., Member of Congress
Before the Institute of Medicine on February 9, 2004Media Reports
RFK Jr. on Thimerosal in Vaccines
Uncut Interview with Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News
Click on CBS News RAW under Multimedia on the right side of the page.Mercury Rising
A CBS News Report by Sharyl AtkissonToxic Tipping Point
by Andrea Rock, MotherJones.com March/April 2004The Not-So-Crackpot Autism Theory
Sunday's Magazine section, New York Times. By Arthur Allen. Nov. 11, 2002Mercury Poisoning
Summary Comparison of Characteristics of Autism & Mercury Poisoning
Comparing autism versus mercury poisoning
Autism: a novel form of mercury poisoningHow Mercury Causes Brain Neuron Degeneration
Click here to view video from the University of Calgary.A Case-Control Study of Mercury Burden in Children with Autistic Spectrum Disorders
Bradstreet Study 7/03The Toxicology of Mercury — Current Exposures and Clinical Manifestations
Thomas W. Clarkson, Ph.D., Laszlo Magos, M.D., and Gary J. Myers, M.D.
New England Journal of Medicine, October 2003Reduced Levels of Mercury in First Baby Haircuts of Autistic Children
First Baby HaircutsA Report Prepared by the Staff of the Subcommittee on Human Rights and Wellness Committee on Government Reform United States House of Representatives
Mercury in Medicine 5/03Autism Epidemic
The following is taken from the official State statistics produced by the Department of Education in the United States, for numbers of children aged 6-21 served by IDEA (Individuals With Disabilities Discrimination Act) who have autism. It compares the increase over the ten years between 1992-93 and 2003-04:
Autism Increase Rates in US by StateAmerican Academy of Pediatrics
Autism A.L.A.R.M.More Autism Studies
Oxidative Stress in Autism - November/December 2004
Woody R. McGinnis, MDWhat’s Going On? The Question of Time Trends in Autism
Mark Blaxill, MBA - October 2004Reduced violent behavior following biochemical therapy
William J. Walsh, Journal of Physiology & Behavior, June 2004To investigate whether changes over time in the criteria used to diagnose CDER status 1 autism account for a significant proportion of the increased number of cases of autism.
Epidemiology of Autism in CASurvey of novel recent findings
FDA - Developmental neurotoxicology of therapeuticsStatement by Martha R. Herbert, M.D., Ph.D.
A simple Google search will unearth many more:
Large Heads in Autism 7/03
Study: Vaccines' mercury causes autism-like signs in mice
http://www.laleva.org/eng/2004/06/study_vaccines_mercury_causes_autismlike_signs_in_mice.html
Roman Bystrianyk, "Study links vaccines containing mercury with autism", Health Sentinel, March 10, 2006,
http://www.healthsentinel.com/org_news.php?id=082&title=Study+links+vaccines+containing+mercury+with+autism&event=org_news_print_list_item
ScienceDaily: The Age of Autism: Study sees vaccine risk
http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20070626-16403000-bc-ageofautism.xml
etc.
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The Danish study refuting a link between thimerosal and autism was conducted at the University of Aarhuis, and published in at least two peer-reviewed scientific journals.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=ShowDetailView&TermToS...
By contrast, the paper you cite does not come from a peer-reviewed journal - instead it was published in the house organ of the "Association of American Physicians and Surgeons", a fringe group which is avowedly anti-vaccination. And the paper's authors, the Geiers, are poorly regarded researchers working out of a private lab and making money from "expert" testimony which has been rejected in court as not meeting evidentiary standards:
http://autismdiva.blogspot.com/2006/07/daubert-haley-and-geier.html
The Geiers are also promoting chemical castration of autistic children through Lupron treatment, which is worthless. The mission of this board (Educating not Medicating) is contrary to the whole idea of giving children a powerful anti-testosterone pharmaceutical drug like Lupron.
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This is a reply to # 922,357How about all the nuts in this post:
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This is a reply to # 922,328I gave a "few" more studies and links in another post. About 30 something studies or links I believe.
Here are what a few of the professions own have to say about vaccines:
"The only safe vaccine is one that is never used." Dr. James R. Shannon, former director of the National Institute of Health
"It took over three years of research before we looked at each other and said 'Vaccines are killing babies'." Dr Viera Scheibner
"It is a well documented fact that the incidence and mortality from infectious diseases fell by 90% well before any vaccine was even introduced... So [the U.S.] mandated vaccination and it resulted in a three-fold increase in whooping cough..." Dr Viera Scheibner
"This is not a rare occurance. Epidemics in fully vaccinated populations are a rule rather than an exception..." Dr Viera Scheibner
"I have thought many times of all of the insane things we have advocated in medicine, that is one of the most insane - to insist on the vaccination of children, or anybody else, for the prevention of smallpox when, as a matter of fact, we are never able to prove that vaccination saved one man from smallpox." USA 1937, Dr. William Hay in his address to the Medical Freedom Society on the Lemke bill to abolish compulsory vaccination
"Vaccination is a monstrosity, a misbegotten offspring of error and ignorance; it should have no place in either hygiene or medicine.... Believe not in vaccination, it is a world wide delusion, an unscientific practice, a fatal superstition with consequences measured today by tears and sorrow without end." Charles Rauta, Professor of Hygiene and Material Medical in the University of Perguia, New York Journal of Medicine in July 1899
"Immunization against smallpox is more hazardous than the disease itself." Professor Ari Zuckerman, a member of the World Health Organization advisory panel on viruses.
"It is now accepted that the risks of routine smallpox vaccination outweigh those of natural infection in Britain." The British medical Journal in January 1976
"I have been saying for some years that the use of live vaccines such as that used from smallpox can activate a dormant infection such as that from AIDS (HIV)." Doctor Robert Gallo a well known AIDS researcher
"When the link between unsafe mercury laden vaccine and autism, ADHA, asthma, allergies and diabetes becomes undeniable, mainstream medicine will be sporting a huge, self inflicted and well deserved black eye. Then will come the billion dollar awards, by enraged juries, to the children and their families. I can't wait". Dr. Rimland MD
"After a careful consideration of the history of vaccination gleaned from an impartial and comprehensive study of vital statistics, and pertinent data from every reliable source, and after an experience derived from having vaccinated 31,000 subjects, I am firmly convinced that vaccination cannot be shown to have any logical relation to the diminution of cases of smallpox. Vaccination does not protect, it actually renders its subjects more susceptible by depressing the vital power and diminishing the natural resistance, and millions of people have died of smallpox which they contracted after being vaccinated" J.W. Hodge MD in his book "The Vaccination Superstition"
"The greatest lie ever told is that vaccines are safe and effective" Dr. Len Horowitz
"...It was clearly shown that the only people who got smallpox TWICE were the vaccinated... You can be LOADED with antibodies and still get, even DIE from the disease..."
"Our use of vaccines is not based on good science." Dr Archie Kalokerinos
"Measles had been dying out in Europe, then they started vaccination and it rose again, and the thing that had cured measles was better nutrition programs..." Independant Nurse Practitioner, LISTEN System Practitioner: Pauline Rose
"This concept that vaccinated children are some kind of typhoid Mary is just rubbish. We now have a sicker group of children in the community." Dr Mark Donohoe
"It may be that you only get one chance to make one big mistake... because of the number of people vaccinated if you introduce a pathogen... in a route that the body does not have a protection against." Dr Mark Donohoe
"There are some doctors who disparagingly say 'There are some parents who think that just having a healthy child is good enough'. Well the truth is it IS good enough!" Dr Mark Donohoe
"In general, civilization affords chances of misuse of our digestive organs, and it is this difference between natural and civilized living that causes all ill health. In a word these diseases are primarily related to what we call Constipation, the Universal Malady of Modern Times." Dr. Paul M. Koonin.D.D.Sc
"The coincident abuse of irritant purgative drugs is an additional factor of considerable importance to the cause of colitis, rectal troubles, and ailments of the digestive tract which cause cancer." Sir Arbuthnot Lane, Bart., M.D., F.R.S.
"They say openly in the [medical] legal system that if you advise against vaccination the A.M.A. will push to deregister." Medical Doctor: Dr Robyn Cosford
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Diseases had already begun to disappear before vaccines were introduced, because of better hygiene and sanitation.Statements like this are very common in anti-vaccine literature, the intent apparently being to suggest that vaccines are not needed. Improved socioeconomic conditions have undoubtedly had an indirect impact on disease. Better nutrition, not to mention the development of antibiotics and other treatments, have increased survival rates among the sick; less crowded living conditions have reduced disease transmission; and lower birth rates have decreased the number of susceptible household contacts. But looking at the actual incidence of disease over the years can leave little doubt of the significant direct impact vaccines have had, even in modern times. Here, for example, is a graph showing the reported incidence of measles from 1950 to the present.
There were periodic peaks and valleys throughout the years, but the real, permanent drop in case of measles in the U.S. coincided with the licensure and wide use of measles vaccine beginning in 1963. Graphs for most other vaccine-preventable diseases show a similar pattern. Are we expected to believe that better sanitation caused incidence of each disease to drop, just at the time a vaccine for that disease was introduced?
*The incidence rate of hepatitis B has not dropped so dramatically yet because the infants we began vaccinating in 1991 will not be at high risk for the disease until they are at least teenagers. We therefore expect about a 15 year lag between the start of universal infant vaccination and a significant drop in disease incidence.
Hib vaccine is another good example, because Hib disease was prevalent until just a few years ago, when conjugate vaccines that can be used for infants were finally developed. (The polysaccharide vaccine previously available could not be used for infants, in whom most cases of the disease were occurring.) Since sanitation is not better now than it was in 1990, it is hard to attribute the virtual disappearance of Haemophilus influenzae disease in children in recent years (from an estimated 20,000 cases a year to 1,419 cases in 1993, and dropping) to anything other than the vaccine.
Varicella can also be used to illustrate the point, since modern sanitation has obviously not prevented nearly 4 million cases each year in the United States. If diseases were disappearing, we should expect varicella to be disappearing along with the rest of them. But nearly all children in the United States get the disease today, just as they did 20 years ago or 80 years ago. Based on experience with the varicella vaccine in studies before licensure, we can expect the incidence of varicella to drop significantly now that a vaccine has been licensed for the United States. Active surveillance in a number of countries and cities demonstrate a 76-86% decrease in varicella cases from 1995-2001.
Finally, we can look at the experiences of several developed countries after they let their immunization levels drop. Three countries - Great Britain, Sweden, and Japan - cut back the use of pertussis vaccine because of fear about the vaccine. The effect was dramatic and immediate. In Great Britain, a drop in pertussis vaccination in 1974 was followed by an epidemic of more than 100,000 cases of pertussis and 36 deaths by 1978. In Japan, around the same time, a drop in vaccination rates from 70% to 20%-40% led to a jump in pertussis from 393 cases and no deaths in 1974 to 13,000 cases and 41 deaths in 1979. In Sweden, the annual incidence rate of pertussis per 100,000 children 0-6 years of age increased from 700 cases in 1981 to 3,200 in 1985. It seems clear from these experiences that not only would diseases not be disappearing without vaccines, but if we were to stop vaccinating, they would come back.
Of more immediate interest is the major epidemic of diphtheria which occurred in the former Soviet Union from 1989 to 1994, where low primary immunization rates for children and the lack of booster vaccinations for adults have resulted in an increase from 839 cases in 1989 to nearly 50,000 cases and 1,700 deaths in 1994. There have already been at least 20 imported cases in Europe and two cases in U.S. citizens working in the former Soviet Union.
source : CDC
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I could quote counter statistics and studies and post other charts till I turned blue, but the truth is that I am lukewarm about doing so because I am really not ready at this point to condemn ALL vaccinations. It appears to me that there have been some vaccines that have had demonstrably significant benefits, just as it appears to me that there have been vaccines with well documented problems.
What bothers me most about vaccines are the onesha that have mercury anve been linked to autism and other mercury related problems, the vaccines that appear to have been invented mostly to make money with fewer benefits that possible harm (a not uncommon pharma industry practice) and the vaccines that some want to forcibly inject into our schoolgirls - made by the company that brought us Vioxx and Fosamax no less!
At any rate, without trying to debate every vaccine known to man and every outbreak that was effected positively or negatively, I will conclude here by saying that I am quite satisfied that I have shown that there is plenty of evidence for linkage between vaccines containing mercury and autism - which was the original point of contention you posted to me: that ALL evidence was to the contrary.
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This is a reply to # 922,384Canada has also seen a rise in preventable infectious disease because of vaccine scares:
"Here in Atlantic Canada we have recently experienced a mumps outbreak which some medical people have traced back to the United Kingdom and areas of lower vaccination rates resulting from the MMR Autism scare. As the following article from the online edition of the LA Times summarizes the Science to date just does not support the existence of a vaccine autism link."
http://autisminnb.blogspot.com/2007/06/autism-vaccine-link-continues-to-erode...
A British doctor (Andrew Wakefield), lead author of a now discredited anti-vaccine study in The Lancet, is facing charges of medical impropriety in Britain and could be booted off the medical register (he failed to disclose ties to a lawyers' group hoping to sue the government over vaccination, and collected vast sums of money from this group).
Anti-vaccination websites boast long lists of "references", few of which are directly connected to the issue and none of which demonstrate a vaccine-autism link.
The evidence keeps piling up, in country after country - vaccination does not cause autism, whether due to a preservative or for any other reason. It's a proven lifesaver.
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This is a reply to # 922,404The STUDIES keep piling up, but who funds the studies and who stands to gain if the studies report no link between vaccines and autism? Better, who stands to lose billions if they do report a link and who has the millions to fund the studies?
One of the studies was the corrupted one where vaccine making giant Johnson and Johnson was the hidden source of funds. "Pile" is the right term for studies like that one alright! And not the first study to be slanted in favor of Johnson and Johnson (do a google search for "Johnson and Johnson slanted studies")
No doubt, there are flawed and slanted studies on both sides with the smell of so much money in the air - but one side undeniably has much more to spend and much more to lose and a track record of faulty and slanted studies that dates back generations.
Personally, I think that NO AMOUNT of a toxic substance is safe. For example, if you swallow even a tiny bit of insecticide it is not a good thing. Same for any poison or toxic substance you swallow, are injected with or otherwise ingest or absorb. Of which mercury is a very dangerous one.
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This is a reply to # 922,535You can't counter the science, so you try the old logical fallacy "appeal to motive"
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This is a reply to # 922,543the Science lol ! All the references used are from pharmaceutical owned journals What a pile of dogcrap ! Corrie you are a true and pathetic medical troll your Science is false as you are! And why is this crap in a SUPPORT forum ! Have you people no sense of direction! The Science lololol ! What a fool!lIES AND DECEPTION IS ALL IT IS!
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