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I was originally going to post this to Lapis only (the original thread poster), but in writing this response it evolved into more of a rant/disagreement against one person, which I think is unfair. There are numerous people that obviously agree with him and I'd like to address them as well, and maybe challenge their reasoning/motivations for supporting this request. Additionally, I think I arrived at my own suggestion/opinion, which is to leave the CZ disclaimer as it is, so as not to promote more complexity to an already complex site. My reasons are surmised in this post.
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I somewhat agree with the notion of making commerciality awareness known, but what are we to do with individual posts and posters who also shop around their commercial interests? Should they be flagged with commercial disclaimers? As an example, I see that Uniquity has advertised her eBay products on the Ask Barefoot forum.
//www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=626&i=27930#i
Being a "Super eBayer", perhaps she should be flagged as a potential commercial poster so that new viewers know that it’s not an endorsement from Curezone? I’m sure she isn’t the only one doing it and personally I don't think it should be flagged, but its certainly somewhat hypocritical!
As much as I think this idea might seem helpful, I think the danger here is bureaucracy. Are we going to police everything? All these safety nets and controls make life on Curezone too difficult/complex to manage/view, and the assumption people cannot think/decide for themselves (i.e. discern what is potentially commercial or sales gimmickry) is also dangerous and insulting. There is an elitist and condescending theme that emanates from this request I find offensive. However, I am more troubled by what seems more like vengeance.
I sense that what's really the issue here is that many people feel slighted or were crossed by MH in some way in the past, and what this is really about is to get back at him. That's entirely fine. It’s your choice to fight wars and hold grudges. I make no judgments. I know many here who have a legitimate ax to grind with MH and I don't blame them entirely for feeling hurt, but those of you perpetuating the war, let's just be honest about it!!. Why not just petition Curezone to have him removed (you probably have already) and stop with all this complaining disguised as righteousness? Many long-timers and others want him gone, yes? In fact, I saw an Owen post that explicitly expresses this.
//www.curezone.org/forums/m.asp?f=704&i=1962#i
Reading that post is somewhat disappointing as much I thought highly of Owen, and thought he was a kind and generous person sharing his beliefs on health. But what I realized is that many of the long-timers have grown egos the size of watermelons. They now think they know what is best for Curezone and readily think they know better than the Webmaster. Apparently many of you want totalitarianism where only certain people are given a voice the melds with your philosophies on health. Or you want better controls where you feel the need to protect the underlings. It seems to be all about control and ego. So be it. I suggest you find your own forum and spare CZ a regime of protectionist filtering and web site controls. Gracious sakes people, some of you have become so full of yourselves, it’s ridiculous. Get a life and use your obvious energy to help people instead directing towards bringing down the Barefoot Herbalist so you can have your CZ utopia.
Additionally, I don't understand how a commercial forum cannot still be a support forum? And since you and others use the Ask Barefoot Forum as an example all the time (coincidence?), then let's also be fair about it. MH offers quite a bit of free advice and support. In fact, I'd say he gives more free information than most forums here (hence the popularity). So what if he sales herbs on the side? He also entirely advocates education first, and making your own products before ever spending a dime! Why does that not get any recognition?
I know it’s hard to believe by some of you elitists, but people that ultimately buy from him do so because they want to! Not because they were swindled by slick marketing or the lack of a better disclaimer. And if you choose to buy, you get a lot more than just the product (not something you find anywhere here). In my humble opinion, curezoners certainly don’t need you or Curezone to hold their hand if they wish engage in business do they?
Now, before you and the Anti-Barefoot crowd burn me to the stake, just know that I am also on record criticizing MH many times, and I have often sided with those who have been unfairly treated by him, but I feel that some of the attacks and odd antics on that forum lately are spawned from revenge and bitterness solely. If this is the motivational source, then all of this idealism can be pitched in the trash. Can anyone tell me in all honesty that this is not the case? I’m not sure I’d even believe you if you tried to make a case.
The revenge is brooding so deeply within Curezone, I can’t even tell who the moderator works for on the Ask Barefoot forum anymore. 95% of the “R” ratings are given to one poster only, and whose agenda is clearly to undermine the host at every chance (particularly on off-topic discussions). Whoever the moderator is, they surely miss (or purposefully ignore) a lot of great health support posts that truly deserve an R rating before anything else is considered. Is this the spirit of Curezone? I think that is far more damaging than a commercial disclaimer that "doesn’t go far enough".
Regardless of the webmaster’s decision of the request at least one thing is for certain from my seat: It seems to me like those of you on the war trail against MH are having your revenge just fine, and at the expense of those that are truly sick and trying to find information on his forum. I hope it's worth it to you.
Thanks for reading. Let the eggs and tomatoes fly. ;-)
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thanks pb. this is nothing new. i remember when i first came here and said something in my ignorance, good old anunnaki(who i totally respect) said i should be killed!
the problem you point out has been here for a while and festering and growing. anunnaki changed names to 2tuff and he definitely both made this site great and terrorized it. he finally got kicked, but i was not in favor of it because of the loss of info. i personally dont think the site has recovered from his loss yet.
i never visist the Debate Forums any more becuse they were mostly dumped into the .org site of curezone. the same is trying to be done with these so-called commercial sites.
i get called a groupie of MH. shows just how stupid people can force themselves to be. mh gives more advice than anyone else with their own forum, spends more time, and reaps very little reward for it. i cant believe the lies that are allowed to be perpetrated against him. and it is always by people who are either offended by his beliefs or jealous of his status. it all seems personal to me, no matter how much is feigned otherwise. in fact, everything is personal. i know i have a personal attachment to what i say. i want it to be right and i want it to be helpful in some way.
there is a grand sense of community here, but there is also a lot of factiousness and divisiveness. i am sure the motivations for such are as numerous as the people involved.
funny, i never hear anyone condemned for seeing andreas as a guru, though he is preached all over the site. in fact, i have never heard one bad thing about andreas on here. and he is definitely commercial and always has been. i dont see anything wrong with that. he has never charged anyone for what he types here, and thats what counts. i dont know why people cant see that and leave well enough alone.
i see divide and conquer happening all over the place here.
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This is a reply to # 91,233My post has nothing to do with MH. Did you read it? It has to do with pharma ads appearing on curezone and that I also believe that commercial forums should be placed in their own sections and not dispersed with regular forums.
My intent is not to have any forum owners banned.
What are your feelings on this (the actual topic)?
~Lapis~
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This is a reply to # 91,233I saw some beautiful jewelry, but nowhere did I see any pricing or sales.
However, I did see this..."we're SERIOUSLY into bartering :)
And I do love bartering!
If a CureZone member has things to swap/trade, I would love seeing the items. It even fun, and not really commercial!- Re: Regarding the Commercial Forum S... unyquity
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This is a reply to # 91,249I never took the time to let you know how wonderful I felt when I read your post (above)...and I just saw it again.
Thank YOU very much for posting what you said.
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This is a reply to # 91,233Sigh.
The truth is the truth. There are many levels of awareness of the truth and various stages of learning of the truth throughout all people that post on Curezone.
Generally speaking, the quote below reflects how the human mind tends to react to new truths, when/if they conflict with truths that have already been painstakingly learned and researched throughout life, and ESPECIALLY if one has invested much time, money, effort, (and of course pride & ego) gaining information. And of course, if we throw "money" into the equation, there's even more potential for conflict with the truth. (Note: pride and ego are not always a bad thing; someone with advanced knowledge, skills and dedication SHOULD be proud of their accomplishments & efforts!)
"All truth passes through 3 stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."
Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)
BUT, it is only 'accepted as being self-evident' when the person that has first ridiculed & opposed the truth, is willing to lay aside the ego/pride of past learning (and possible monetary influence), open their mind and admit that their previously learned truth may indeed be lacking or totally incorrect, and unlearn/relearn with a heart that is hungry for truth & knowledge.
The world of allopathic medicine is full of people that mirror this; in fact, most all of us that will admit it, have also mirrored the quote above.
Take an MD as an example: Let's say a young boy was healed from a painful,crippling disease by allopathic medicine & doctors...and decided to devote his entire life to healing the sick. At the expense of EVERYTHING else in his life, he studied diligently, sacrified all the social 'fun' of childhood, received the highest marks on all his tests & research papers. He and his parents went into debt (to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars) so he could go to the 'best' medical schools and achieve the highest and most complete level of education in the world. And after devoting everything about himself through childhood & early adulthood to his calling (for nearly TWENTY YEARS of his life), he obtained his license and opened a practice. To open his doors, he had to invest at least a quarter of a million MORE dollars (in equipment, staff & malpractice insurance), and then, sitting back, he finally could enjoy 'life' a bit, allow his ego & pride to smile, and now he can start achieving his goal of healing the sick (and repaying nearly a half a million dollars worth of debt).
What is going to happen when someone tries to tell this honest-hearted, devoted, sincere man that ALL his learning, sacrifice and education was "wrong"? Worse yet, that it was actually harmful to others? AND that his twenty years of sacrifice, the debt he incurred, and the foundation he built his entire life upon...was for naught? Understandably, that man is going to ridicule & violenty oppose the person that attempts to share the truth of health & healing. His entire life, all of his 'self', all of his finances, and everything that makes him who he is has been challenged at it's core.
The first time I heard the words 'coffee' & 'enema' put together, I laughed myself silly. "Put coffee up your butt to heal?! Get serious! How ridiculous & fanatical can you be?! And what is the potential for harm?" Again, "ridicule, opposition" and now finally, the truth of coffee enemas is self-evident to me. (But that only happened AFTER unlearning what I thought I knew, putting aside my ego, and fully researching the evidence and usage of coffee enemas).
As I advanced in my knowledge and understanding and 'truth' of the human body, I found Colloidal Silver . It relieved the nightmarish golf-ball sized boils that not only crippled my body, but also my spirit. The pain was fantastical; there were days I couldn't walk or move at all; they oozed the foulest and most nauseating of smells & substances. I was ashamed to be in my body; I was ashamed to ever take off my clothes in front of my beloved mate; I was mortified of the possibility that one of his loving caresses might inadvertantly cause his precious hands to be covered with foul, sticky, nauseating pus from MY body. And what if it happened when we were having sex, and one of them oozed onto him? (the tears are now streaming down my face as I type this; my spirit remembers the horror & shame all too well). During those two years, I was further from being the bubbly, happy, sexual woman that I Am, more than any time in my life. And if I took Colloidal Silver every day, they went away. BUT when I stopped taking CS, they came back. (And of course, the stress on my entire digestive tract was phenomenal because the CS kills ALL bacteria, not just the 'bad guys'). But I didn't know that, and I didn't care; it took away the horror. Those that sold me the CS told me that all my digestive symptoms were "die off" and/or "healing crisis", and they/I had not the knowledge to understand the real reason for the symptoms the CS caused at that time.
I could have EASILY (with a true heart and the most honest of intentions) have devoted substantial resources and dedicated my life to helping those people with severe boils & carbuncles, and started selling or recommending Colloidal Silver . Luckily for my ego & pride (and for the health of thousands of people), I found out the truth of how that the body's terrain is the ONLY true 'cure' for infections & disease of ALL kinds...BEFORE someone confronted me about my "truths" of Colloidal Silver.
I'm sure you all see 'the picture' of how every part of ourself can become seriously 'invested' in what we know to be "the truth".
Now, let us add "CureZone" to the equation. And yep, you guessed it, conflict is going to ABOUND! And when we cannot be with another poster, to see and comprehend their expressions & body language, even MORE misunderstandings can evolve. AND when another poster's "truth" is 'complexified' with issues of money & the ability to feed themselves or their family (not to mention their ego and/or pride of their past learning & extensive research & education), the possibilities for find the 'true truth' become even less and less.
Yet, in all of this, somebody HAS to say the truth that they know, when they read what they consider to be an 'untruth'. If I had posted that " coffee enemas were riduclous" there would have been some that actually agreed, and others that attacked me personally, and others that attempted to set me straight.
Had I posted that Colloidal Silver was the ultimate cure for boils & carbuncles (at the time I was being relieved of the symptoms & horrors of them), there would have been those: that accepted what I emphatically believed & stated to be the truth and used CS for infections for the rest of their life instead of cleansing their organs, balancing their pH and diet, and creating the the perfect terrain for my body so they would never develop disease of any kind; there would have been those that said I was 'a whacko' & attacked me; and one or two that would have realized/discerned 'where I was' in my genuine quest for the truth (and possibly how maybe my selling and financial investment & need was preventing me from seeing or finding the truth) and stated the truth as succintly as they could, hoping that they could help me (and those that believed my emphatic & emotional testimony) to gain the 'truth' & knowledge that would set me/others free from a lifetime of purchasing and inundating my body with all kinds of "natural" healing herbs & various products.
In order for ANY of our 'states of truth' to be expanded, SOMEBODY has to state the truth and what is incorrect about our thinking/logic, so we have an opportunity to explore it and grow. In order to prevent someone elses 'truth' from possibly harming others, SOMEBODY has to state what is logically wrong with what another may be advising others about their body.
The question becomes then: how can we discern when the truth IS the actual truth? And how can we discern the heart & intent of someone's statements?
Sheesh, we can't look them 'in the eye' and get a "feeling" about them and we can't see their body language...but we still have tools at our disposal.
The best 'tool' I have found is to imagine the purest of most sincere of "truth seekers & teachers"...what would they do and how would they react when someone was challenging, questioning, or attempting to enter into discussion about their truths? (I'm particulary fond of Ghandi, myself, as a model of sincerity)...and then compare the responses and statements of other teachers to that 'model' to help me see what the intent or state of mind of the poster may be.
When someone says: "I feel you are wrong" or "I feel the truth I have learned is different that yours":
Does that person basically react with: "Really? I have done quite a bit of research in this area, and I feel differently...and based on this xxx, and this xxxx, this xxx, and this very important xxxx AND the way the puzzle pieces seem to fit together, I'd have to disagree, at least right off the top of my head. But my learning is continuing and my truth will never be absolutely perfected. So let me research what your saying, the reasons you may have for coming to that conclusion, and see what we can put together between us to arrive at a solution and/or knowledge of the truth. I've NEVER grown without being challenged, so thank-you for this opportunity to grow".
Or does that person basically react with: "I have no obligation to you to listen to your theory; you have no idea what you're talking about! My past teachers KNEW the truth; you are deceived if you believe THAT truth! Those that are out to get you cannot possibly have any truth! Those that have made past errors are liars indeed; those that would tell you differently than I tell you are questionable and blinded to the REAL truth. Read what I have written and you will know the TRUTH; if you don't read it, you deserve to be sick because you won't learn!". And when this type of reaction is coupled with, "...and I have a product to sell you." ...then...??...well, at the very least, it makes it difficult to find the truth.
Folks, we are ALL learners & seekers of the truth. And everyone here that has ever taken any of the their precious time to share and try to help others find the truth, almost always do so out of the best of intentions and the truest of hearts. But no matter how good the intention and how true the heart, the information given can be incorrect, incomplete, partially skewed, or flat-out wrong. And without those to challenge, state their own truths and even demand that those who are advising others be held accountable for their words & teaching, the whole world would be ignorant & blind.
Galileo researched & believed the Copernican theory that the sun was the center of the universe and the earth revolved around the sun. His own beliefs, his writings, his truths, and ample evidence to prove the Copernican theory true, cost him his freedom. Because the self-proclaimed "experts" at the time had their egos, pride, finances & religious beliefs entwined with their wrong belief that the earth was the stationary center of the universe and the sun revolved the earth.
Galileo was arrested and imprisoned, and under threat of his life, forced to recant his own writings, complete research & beliefs. And yet, it is said, that as Galileo was signing the officially mandanted recantation of his words and research and forced to state that his evidence that the earth moved was totally incorrect, he said...
..."but yet, it moves".
The truth IS the truth. I for one, will constantly challenge & demand explanations and answers from those who claim to know & preach the truth...ESPECIALLY when their truth conflicts with my truth or when that person has accepted the huge responsibility of dispensing health advice & products to other people. I feel that is not only a learning tool for me, but a bottom-line responsiblity I must assume if I am to offer information to others in regards to their bodies & health.
As I do this, some of the teachers will learn something from me and their truth & knowlege will be advanced & enhanced; sometimes I will be wrong, and their answers will inspired me to advance MY truth and knowledge. And of course, some that I attempt to challenge & learn from will scream & yell because I have challenged them and insinuate that my knowledge seeking is egotistical, shameful, harmful, rude, self-serving & downright evil. That is something I must accept and recognize as evidence of my truthful statements & challenges. What truly sincere truth-seeker that ever lived avoided the wrath & accusations of unlearned, deceived, or self-promoting accusers?
...and yet, it moves. :)
Unyquity
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This is a reply to # 91,255I have read some truly excellent posts on curezone in my years here but *that* post was one of the top posts *ever*, out of hundreds of thousands of posts ever posted. For posts like these there should be a new button for moderators to push. 'R' just doesnt cut it.
There should be a golden star that means ...do not miss this post, the words therein are life changing. Or, perhaps the desingation could be 'E' for epiphany.
Thanks for that...it was a pleasure to read.
Please people, read this post until your cells tingle.
With respect, always...
~Lapis~
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This is a reply to # 91,256Lapis,
A few hours ago I awoke and stumbled into "my chair" in front of this computer monitor...and read the words of those accusing me of self-promotion and marketing of my husband's rocks and skills...and the wrongful accusations of my character & intent. When all I thought I did was express the joy of my inner child & pride for my husband's skills & our artistry as a lapidary & jewelry designers...by sharing pictures and information about our 'rock artistry' to another person that enjoyed, and even mined rocks in Australia. And my shoulders sagged and the tears flowed as I my husband held my hand and a sobbed, "why do people seem to always misunderstand me?", "I try so hard to be honest and truthful", "how could he think I was being 'commericial' or self-promoting? I'm not selling anything for anyone's health?", "In ALL the threads and information on Curezone about crystal healing, there have only been two or three times have I ever even mentioned that we have THOUSANDS of crystals & rocks that we sell". (This is the quote at the top of the page: "A sad soul can kill you quicker than a germ." ~ John Steinbeck )
And then, as I started writing the post above, my tears flowed again as my spirit recalled how it had been crucified by the boils & carbuncles that riddled my body for years.
And now, the tears flow yet again, because I am truly humbled that someone with the advanced knowledge, insight, & discernment that you have attained...could find my words so worthy of the response you just posted. I find your praise difficult to accept, somehow. My husband is beaming with pride, and I'm crying..for what exact reason I know not.
There are no words to express the thankfulness that my spirit is experiencing and the gratefulness for your understanding of what I was trying to say.
May your blessings & life continue to be ABUNDANT!
Thank you completely.
Unyquity
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Ah, the false accusations of others are as a boil upon one's soul.
For what it is worth, you are one of my favourite CureZonians and I appreciate your commitment and passion more than I could ever express with these simple symbols of ours. Perhaps you will be gifted your reward soon, in the form of a large chunk of premium, unpolished lapis lazuli...
Thank you for brightening my day, yet again. Enjoy the full moon my friend...- Re: Golden Star 'E' unyquity
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This is a reply to # 91,258>>>Ah, the false accusations of others are as a boil upon one's soul<<<
Those words are SO true. In YOUR wisdom (which I truly appreciate), might you already know perchance...just how advanced must we become before false accusations are automatically seen & received by us as praise...as the result of our sincere & truthful knowledge (like a feather in our cap)...ather than hurting & toxifying our 'terrain', and sucking away our power & strength? Not to mention just being downright painful & gross (like a boil).
A big chunk of premium Lapis Lazuli? Now that WOULD be a blessing...in about a million different ways :)
Thank YOU for being you!
(I'll be sending you "moon hugs" in a couple of minutes, as soon as I can get outdoors & 'catch some moonbeams'!)
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This is a reply to # 91,258>>"Ah, the false accusations of others are as a boil upon one's soul."
Using that person as an example of posting her sales link is not a false accusation of character, and I can assure you my soul is boil-free. She turned it into that, not me. It was a simple example to make a point about commerciality. How far are we going to take this? To the individual level? I think that's a fair question and not deserving of criticism that it was a personal attack. It was not.
I support everyone being able to post whatever they want, even a stupid ebay link to sell rocks. I thought I made that clear. Over sensitivity to my example and blowing it up into something it wasn't does not help discuss the issue and only perpetuates petty fighting (not something people here seem to be able to stop). In fact, it only reaffirms my belief that ego-centric people somehow always make it about them.
Anyway, you're still one my favorite Curezonians Lee, despite our obvious differences on this. Take care.- Re: Golden Star 'E' #48222
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I apologize for continuing this, Marc, but I would like to say that the message behind this particular quote of mine may have been unclear:
"...the false accusations of others are as a boil upon one's soul."
I had hoped to compare Uniquity's suffering of past physical boils to her recent tears over being accused of something she did not believe she was guilty of.
I did not mean to imply that "I" thought the accusations were false, merely that I was dismayed that someone I respect and admire, namely Uniquity, felt awful after reading a post.
Ugh, I hope that makes sense!
And I am glad to return the compliment; as you are indeed one of my own favourites. I think the fact that we have had disagreements in the past, acknowledged them and then progressed while leaving them behind is something to be proud of. (If "proud" is the correct term...)
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Lee:
Thanks for the explanation. I understand now.
Yes, I too think it is awesome we can move beyond disagreement and never get into petty fights and popularity contests. I don't think we ever have. This is how it should be, and yes, "proud" is a great term. I certainly am proud when I can achieve that with someone, anyone, on curezone or other offline parts of my life. I was not able to achieve that with everyone here, unfortunately.
You're probably right that things aren't as bad as they seem. They never are, and an optimistic attitude (especially when dealing with health) goes a long way to learning and helping, and rising above some of the bad you encounter. Despite my decision to speak up about my feelings, I recognize I may not be entirely right on all counts (maybe none at all), but I hope some of it made people think even if they don't agree.
You seem to have a good attitude for the most part despite some unfairness dealt your way. At times you are generously humble. I appreciate that, and I think this where I struggle with some people here. Its always they're right and everyone else is ignorant or uninformed about health (I recognize MH has this quality at times, and I definitely diverge in those instances). I don't care if you're a 30 year health veteran guru, some humbleness and openmindedness (even when your ego is on the line) is an endearing quality. Arrogance is aggravating, but vengeance is dangerous.
Don't ever get caught up in the petty loyalty battles and populartity contests. I will do the same.
Best,
Marc
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This is a reply to # 91,273PBuddy,
Regarding your accusations of my "commercial" posts on Curezone:
Someone on the MH mentioned high shipping costs to Australia; I was able to help because of our eBay selling. I mentioned rocks, he mentioned he was a miner. I posted pictures of what we did (and links to where he could find other pictures of what we currently had listed for sale).
I DID NOT suggest he buy anything...someone that mines rocks isn't going to buy rocks from little ole us, so how could I have POSSIBLE been being "commercial"? I did suggest we like to barter, in case he wanted to have the rocks he mines turned into jewelry.
AND, I said for us to continue our disccusion OFF CUREZONE so our discussion wouldn't interfere with MH forum OR use up Curezone space.
Jeez-Loueez...HOW can that be construed by you as commericialism?
Below are YOUR past words about me, my character and my intentions (that I could find on one page of your posts...several MAJOR doozies seem to have disappeared). Even though I have asked, pleaded and begged you stop attacking me and simply respond to the content of the information of my posts (and insisted my reasons were NOT what you kept and continue insuinuating), you CONTINUE lying about me, my character and my purpose for posting. Curezone guidelines state to attack the message, NOT the messager, but still you just won't quit.
>>>If its not jealousy, than there's definitely something that drives you to post here in the manner in which you do. I have a hard time believing its all for "the good of the people" and "the truth". Perhaps its just the attention a self-employed hillbilly from Iowa needs to break up her 16-hour day?
>>>Why isn't Uniquity campaigning for that? You have full control over this, so its a complete non issue, unless you are an egomaniac that loves posting rants against MH to take attention away from the forum's purpose.
>>>Conviction is good, but I don't think you've thought it through well enough to have earned conviction. I sense a lot of ego behind those Uniquity key strokes...
>>>No, I think there's more to it than that, and I sense something more malevolent than "relishing the opportunity". If this were truly your motivation you wouldn't be here. You also have countless other forums you could target your relished time on that do far greater damage and push more misinformation in the health field than MH. No, you choose him because he's popular and you know this forum has a large audience, and you want some stardome too. Rarely do you ever publicly agree with MH or thank him for perhaps things he's taught you. You crave attention. If it were TRULY about the truth and purpose, you wouldn't be here spending time here with your campaigns against Lecithin
>>>I can only conclude there is a great jealousy festering inside you (and you're not the only one for sure!) that hates the fact that such an educated and knowlegeable person such as yourself doesn't have a forum, yet this Ohio hillbilly does. Its as simple as that isn't it?
>>I guess when someone posts things with arrogance and condescension such as yourself, I tend to think they aren't willing to "update their learning".
If you would, please be so kind, as to STOP attacking me. I have stated my true intentions and explained myself silly (which is more than anyone should do or should have to do in a case such as this). I am innocent of your brutal and untruthful accusations, and my spirit is sick & wounded because of them.
Most sincerely,
Unyquity
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This is a reply to # 91,257You can feel truth, and in your post I felt it bang on! There is an energetic that goes far beyond words and that was available for me to sample from your post as well.
Your username could easily have been "Integrity."
Keep shining. Some will not yet see your light, but bless them with it anyway. Both you and I share a mutual respect for Gandhi btw. Everyone has greatness in them. That greatness can be revealed at anytime. The greatness I speak of, is the realization that we are all one conscious expression growing as branches on the same tree. The "magic" happens when we feel that to the core.
Oh and here's a distinction for you concerning Colloidal Silver . Sometimes there could be a circumstance where time is of the essence and it could be taken orally, but for systemic problems it can be placed under the tongue and absorbed (sublingualy). Silver used to be plentiful in our soil and was part of the terrain (in angstom size).
Different situations call for differnt solutions at different times.
There is a small story that demonstrates the point.
Three people were walking in the woods . A renound healer and a couple made their way down a forest path when the wife began to cough. The healer looked at her, looked around and picked a particular plant and told her to chew it. She did and the cough went away instantly. The husband was very impressed. He asked the healer if that particular plant is the best plant for coughs. The healer told him that for this particular person on this particular day with that particular cough, that plant was the right choice.
The story speaks to being open to the ongoing process of living and being connected to the flow and noticing your context within it. Healing or balance is an intuitive process. Terrain has its corresponding (harmonic)levels beyond the physical before the physical is even projected. We project reality, and as the grand cosmic dance that is a mystical mathematical formula of sorts, unfolds, we can "play" with the information as we seek balance in that "moment."
Terrain is thus, a state of mind that leads to balance. Thoughts are things and deep healing comes from the contextual construct of those things within the realm of the indivdual's reality (construct) and the collective as well. Simply put....coherency.
We can leverage balancing from agreed upon symbols such as plants, or colours, or....
These can change as our agreements change.
~Lapis~
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This is a reply to # 91,259Lapis,
What do we know about Lapis?
About Lapis:
Lapis Lazuli is one of the most beautiful deep royal blue stones to have ever come out of the depths of our planet. Most Lapis will usually contain gold flecks of pyrite and some calcite. For as long as history can tell us, Lapis has been a symbol of power and royalty.
Lapis Lazuli helps in gaining admission to the world of the unknown mysteries and enhances the wisdom for understanding the information. The Lapis from Afghanistan promotes the connection between the physical plane and the celestial kingdom and represents the forces for entering into wisdom and the mystical realm.
Lapis also provides for activation and energizing of the throat and brow chakras. Particularly, when Lapis is placed over the third-eye (brow chakra), it helps in developing insight into ones own dream states.
Lapis Lazuli is considered to be a ‘stone of total awareness’ by expanding awareness and mental capacity and draws the mind inward to seek its own source of power. It helps keep us objective about the subjective and reinforces the acceptance of whatever we have learned.
It can help in the organization of life and in the routine day-to-day activities. Lapis also helps to overcome Depression and enhances the states of serenity and self-acceptance, as well as bringing cheer to the user and success in relationships.
Lapis can be used as a protective stone by sheltering the wearer/carrier from physical danger and psychic attacks.
YOU, my friend, had deep wisdom when you chose your name... you are ALL of those things, and MORE!
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And THAT was a fantastic story/parable in your last post! I'd venture to say that maybe it wouldn't have mattered WHAT plant was grabbed, that if we believe it to be a vessel of healing, a vessel of healing it will be!
Oh my! Did I just say that?! Lol, what HAS happened to me? All my old realities are fading away faster than I can say good-bye to them. And the same has happened with my husband's and my 'taste' for certain foods. Last week we were entirely 'without meat'...and less than a year ago we SWORE we'd never even try to do that. And last week, we DIDN'T try...we just ate what our bodies said to eat...and meat never seemed to be on the menu :)
That's also a great tip about the sublingual CS...I learned that 'after'(in fact, my bottle even said that, so many times I took it sublingually), but I always swallowed and got enough in my digestive tract to cause a few problems. Of course, I don't do anything "weakly", so I was using 500ppm Colloidal Silver - talk about anti-bacterial, that stuff doesn't give the bacteria ANY chance to live!
'tis Time for me to Fly!
Many blessings treasured friend :)
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As someone who is still relatively new to Curezone, I have to express my huge gratitude to those more knowledgable members who have been travelling the road for longer and who never seem to get tired of posting replies and sharing their expertise and experience. Rarely do you see them post with their own problems, but they are always on hand when someone needs them, and they are worth their weight in gold. I have to admit that back in the beginning I was overwhelmed with information and opinions from the posts I read, and frequently confused as I came across contradictions and misinformation - (the 'vegetables are dangerous' one had me perplexed for about ten minutes I have to say!) - and I have since seen many new members get bogged down in the same way, but there is always a voice of reason not far away, and many times there will be a 'Yes, but...' type post in an attempt at damage control. And for that, I for one am eternally grateful - Curezone has helped me to turn my health, and therefore my life, around but I think I may have abandoned it altogether if it weren't for our 'veterans' (heh heh) and their seemingly endless capacity for helping others. Right now I'm still on my learning curve, and my experience is still limited. I try to post helpful replies when I can but mostly I am still gathering information and knowledge in the hope that soon I'll be able to help others in the way that I've been helped.
My thoughts on the issue of the unrest that has been apparent on Curezone, which I have noticed for a while, and which has been stirred up by the Pharma ad issue.... I see this happening in personal relationships and friendships, circles of friends... I can see it happening to the world at large, and in my own life. I can't quote him directly because I haven't got the book to hand, so forgive me if I get this a little jumbled - but in 'A New Earth', Eckhart Tolle refers to the way in which ego and unconsciousness will struggle for survival and become more amplified for a time, seeming to become stronger shortly before it is overcome - as will anything in it's last throes. He also says that beginning to overcome unconsciousness and ego is as simple as just being aware of it, stepping aside and watching it. I hear a lot of people say that our world is doomed, that evil has taken over and there is no hope for us.... maybe they're right but I don't think so.... I prefer to think that what's happening in the world is unconsciousness in its last throes. I know that this may sound simplistic, but unconsciousness is all around us, and I don't think that it's possible to keep Curezone hermetically sealed from it. I think Invincible is right when she refers to the Pharma ads representing the duality that exists in life. To borrow the ship analogy - it would be a shame to see a perfectly good vessel go under or be abandoned, especially when so much effort, love and time has been spent by so many, diligently bailing out the water and plugging the leaks.- Re: Beautiful post Unyquity :) :) :) unyquity
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This is a reply to # 91,260Thank you kindly :) My learning & research (and love of words) had the chance to be guided together and provide a bit of healing & understanding.
"I know that this may sound simplistic" Ta-DAH!...virtually all truth is rooted in simplicity - and focusing on all the myriads of complexities seems to draw us away from the simple truths! You are wise beyond what you think you are!!
Our vast spirits & inherit wisdom (for some reason or another, totally unknown to this gal, for sure) got shoved into these extremely limiting human bodies (or at least, they sure SEEM to be limiting when one considers the vastness of our spirits!). And our bodies sure seem to be a pretty crappy residence for the awesomeness of our spirit. I've read zillions of complexities for the reason, but the simplest explanation? Our bodies are indeed worthy of our spirit - as long as our bodies are glowing with natural health. We hear it over & over & over & over...one cannot heal the body, if the spirit & mind are toxic (which is definitely true) - but it's easy to forget that the spirit & mind can't even come close to functioning at their intended capacity, if the 'house' they live in is so full of toxic crud & disease (like a deep dark dungeon-house) that they can't glow & shine and effect our bodies (like if they lived in a mansion full of windows near the ocean of Light).
Methinks simple is best :) And I agree wholeheartedly...Stay the Course! Don't abandon Ship! (unless of course, the ship really is such a bad environment for your spirit, that your 'terrain' is wounded and/or poisoned). We each have our own reality in that regard, for sure.
Congratulations for being you - you are AWESOME!
Blessings,
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