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RoastedMonk
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This will probably be long but will have 2 parts.
#1 My story
#2 I want to know if anyone has actually PERMANTLY fixed this problem?
My Story: 11 years ago I came down with non-hodgkins lymphoma. Did chemo and radiation successfully with no recurrance since. Yay! However right after finishing treatments a friend/coworker and I were "celebrating" so to speak. At this point my immune system was pulverized from my cancer treatments. After having sex with this friend 2 things I noticed right away. A flakey scaley thing at the tip of my penis and loose stool. This is important because I want to stress.... One day everything was perfect and the next after having sex with her bam...loose stool(very loose) but not diahrea and that flakey spot on my penis. Went to the doctor and she (yes had a female doctor) and perscribed clotrimazole cream for the scaley flakey and nothing for the stool. Wouldn't even do a single test. I demanded she give me an STD test. She wouldn't. I had to go to planned parenthood just to get the STD tests. Everything came back negative. I'm 20 years old at this point by the way. So I'm relieved everything was negative but redid the test 6 months later just to be sure and again everthing was fine. Now about 3 weeks after the first wierd signs I started noticing something that looked like ringworm. So went back to the doctor and show her and once again the clotrimazole. But it never really worked. The ringworm looking things would only form on my extremities eg..legs mostly and sometimes on my arms. Never saw it on my stomach or back or face etc. Kept going back to doctors insisting that I had an infection of some kind. and AT LEAST DO A TEST! But not one single test was done (other than my anonymous std testing at planned parenthood). In fact at one point the doctor said that if I came back for this she would have me committed for evaluation. But I knew that my poo doesn't go literally one day from perfectly normal to loose and ringworm looking things forming without something being wrong. See where I am going with this. I have NEVER pulled all the pieces together until now. I did a search on skin fungus and after about 3 hours of clicking I started seeing more and more about this runaway yeast (fungus). Makes sense. Girl I had sex with had yeast infection...I had severely weakend immune system from just finishing cancer treatments that explains flakey thing on penis and loose stool and the ringworm looking things and everyone knows ringworm is a fungus. So I have lived with this for 10 years now feeling dirty and diseased (because any girlfriend I would have sex with...guess what...yup yeast infection) with no hope because no doctor would even listen to me or even give ONE SINGLE test (it's like a seinfeld episode). That was long but it brings me to part #2!
So while clicking away on the internet I came across some supplements I should try. Some yeast killers some waltnut some biotin etc etc. I thought you people are freaking nuts but...it's not that much and why not. But I really wanted to try an antifungal Rx like difulcan but thought hey...try these other things first. AND UNBELIEVABLY for the first time in 10 years!!!! My stool was almost normal! Formed, correct color, consitentcy and frequency! I could have cried! But it was not to last because after a while of taking this stuff I was feeling very sick. Couldn't keep taking it even though it was working. So here is my delema.
Have any of you ACTUALLY fixed this problem? Or are all of you just continuing this crap with no success. And do I just go to mexico and buy difulcan and put myself on a 6 month treatment of 200 mg / day just to be sure that this crap goes away? Cause if I have had this for this long....it's probably in deep. what do I do? Any of you actually permantly fix this??
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- Re: Used to think you guys were nuts... stannarad
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This is a reply to # 856,471Gosh I'm sorry you've had to go through so much suffering. I'll bet you're spot on and that with your immune system being down ( from the cancer and chemo ) you were susceptable.
Yes people DO get better and well. I know of a couple off hand who were able to completely re-balance their intestinal environment. But also I know of a few others whom are enjoying a much improved life ( are able to work and exercise again ) , yet still have to be careful with their diet and lifestyle. Unfortunately I do think a lot of it has to do with how long you will ill ( how badly your body was affected ). In my case I highly suspect I'll always have to be mindful to a degree. But as sick as I was for years on end, I say so what. I'm grateful to the Lord not to be bedbound any longer. God is good :-).
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- Re: Used to think you guys were nuts... RoastedMonk
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Will difulcan work? That seams to me the best method. Is my assumption of dosing and duration correct? I have health insurance but since I can't get a prescription for it I'll have to just go to mexico and self treat. I suppose what I will do is try the difulcan and see if there is an improvement. If so...then I'll know I am on the right track and will continue it for 6 months. Of course I am planning on a correct diet as well and other things to help my gastro intestinal while on the difulcan. Is 6 months too long? or not long enough? Just curious cause I'd hate to not do it long enough and just have this crap start all over again.
Monk- Re: Used to think you guys were nuts... RoastedMonk
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http://www.pfizer.com/pfizer/download/uspi_diflucan.pdf
this is from pfizer themselves. And at one point it said to continue treatment for 6 weeks past a negative serology! That's 1.5 months! So if it is throughout the body and someone only does a short treatment then diflucan won't work unless it's continued for 6 weeks past a negative test. Sheesh. Wonder how expensive it is in mexico. Or wonder how I can just get my doctor to listen to me and try this out.
Monk- Re: Used to think you guys were nuts... pattiecake
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*I am on Diflucan and I'm on 100mg per day. I weigh about 125lbs. I have been dealing with a yeast issue for many years and erradicated most of it over the course of 2 years with natural anti-fungals like high doses of oil of oregano, olive leaf extract, noni, garlic. Low carb/low Sugar diet, cleansing etc.
My doctor suggested that I try diflucan to hopefully get the tail end of this because I just cant seem to get rid of all of it with the natural stuff. (made it LOTS BETTER tho)
You need to monitor your liver enzymes while on Diflucan because its tough on the liver. My doctor has me getting liver panels periodically. He wants me to be on 3 weeks, check my liver and then another 3 weeks and thats it.
YOur best bet is to try and find an environmental doctor. They are the ones that believe and understand candida.
good luck,
pattie - Re: Used to think you guys were nuts... stannarad
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This is a reply to # 856,595Listen here's the thing. It's impossible for anyone to say how long OR what you should do to get better. Any doctor...be it alternative or other wise can't possibly know either. And most will not acknowledge candida. What can they possibly do anyway that could be helpful? Allopathic docs don't treat on a holistic level.
In my opinion, I'd just concentrate on changing your total lifestyle. Change you diet to be as healthy as possible, get a juicer, and start a cleansing program. Start adding back your good flora that was lost. All that will a most likely go a lot further than taking RX/s. Your body is toxic and taking RX/s won't change that. I was on and off them for around a year and it did me no good. I'm doing much better these days, but it has taken me years. Unfortunately, there are no easy or fast fixes.
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Diflucan can help a lot for some people. The liver issue is real, and you need to be very careful of it. Diflucan did NOT help me - it just knocked my liver over after the first couple of doses and I have been struggling with liver issues ever since. And, you need a good functioning liver in order to get rid of the fungus overgrowth, or you can end up going around in toxic circles if your liver weakens. I would say, read as much as you can about it. There are many different approaches to take. The one consisntent thing with all of them tho is this: There are no quick fixes, even with diflucan. One must follow the candida diet, and usually they need to change their diet for the rest of their lives, or the stuff will return.- Re: Used to think you guys were nuts... stannarad
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This is a reply to # 856,662Ah yes--the liver. Excellent point sans. That's the thing isn't it? Every time I'd try something to kill the yeast, it would always backfire. Easy peasy is the rule you have to follow when you're really sick. It's a long road back.
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This is a reply to # 856,471Skin yeast infections are among the toughest to fight. That's because yeast is "cell wall deficient", meaning that it can actually go into the skin cells where it can "hide out" until immunity is lower and it can break out and thrive again. Here is an article on yeast as being cell wall deficent:
http://www.greatplainslaboratory.com/book/bk6sect1.html
Difulcan will help to overcome any infection you currently have, but you really need to find a new doctor who is more knowledgable about your health condition. Doctors exist, but you have to look for them. If one is ignorant, move on until you find one who will really work with you. Here is a webite that has a link contained in it to a medical organization called ACAM. If you go to ACAM's website and type in your zip code, you will find a list of doctors belonging to their organization with various specialties. Look for one with the designation, "YS" (yeast syndrome). Hopefully you will find a new doctor this way who knows more than your current doctor and can help you.
Other ideas are to get a lot of sun on the infected skin area and take detox baths with: (a) two cups of Epsom Salts with 1 cup of baking soda in the tub; or (2) two cups of Epsom Salts with a bottle of hydrogen peroxide in the bath. Ginger root added to the tub is also very healing. - Re: Used to think you guys were nuts... saved1230
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Hi Monk,
My husband and I have suffered with much of the same thing as far as infection. Now we are older and I was previously married with no vaginal infections ever. My husband having being single until 33, obviously sexual encounters along the way, and being a construction worker suffered off and on with what he thought was simple jock itch. After years now of being married, and both us suffering much with chronic infection, we honestly have not resolved the issue. I know, not very encouraging.
But to address your concern about how bad you felt when on natural supps. this is normal as you were having a die off period, and you will feel this even on prescription meds, and die off is a die off. Now the question is was it from yeast, parasites or bacteria? Walnut though good for yeast also kills parasites, which most of us have and just are unaware of. One thing that is great to eliminate the yucky feeling is activated charcoal. The charcoal soaks up the toxin from any die off that your body might be experiencing, whether yeast, parasites and in some cases bacteria. The liver will not be effected as it will if you go on Diflucan, and with out everything in balance, meaning the intestial flora, and of course the issue of reinfection, it could be an on going battle for along time just like us, and you are so young, my heart goes out to you. Been there, and still am,as is my husband. Often times for a man, having a constant infection may also eventually effect the prostate. Here in our states, prostate infection is hard to eradicate, but that is a whole different subject. Being you've had cancer treatments causing the immune system factor, you have some odds against you. One of the most important things over all as you absorb into your body the chemicals from prescription antifungals as already stated by other responder to your question, is the liver problems, be aware that long term antifungals, at least prescription antifungals also lower testosterone along with taking a tole on the liver, I have learned much of what I say from having a child with autism, that has many of our same issues also. There are many things you can do to support and offset the liver problems, one of them being the herb milk thistle. There are other strong herbal supports for your liver. This you can research on the internet to get more information concering this. So supporting the liver, eradicating yeast, parasites, and possible bacteria, supporting the intesinal flora and a good healthy diet, and think twice about your sexual life and the importance of protecting your self from re-infection, you might be able toget yourself on the road to recovery. I know your thinking, it has not happened for my husband and I yet, but with me there are other health issues, and with my husband a prostate issue that is difficult with traditional medicine as it is in the states to find a doctor that would try an alternative, we may continue to suffer long. Hopefully your won't suffer as long as some of us have.
Good luck, I wish you wellness, and health
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