You go ahead and vent whenever you need to...and we'll all be right here, encouraging you to know which weapons you can utilize to make a dent into VERY thick skulls (that have been bombarded with misinformation for decades/centuries)...and help you recover from your own "battle scars".

The best healing of the spirit for these kinds of 'wounds'...comaraderie and more solid, truthful information.

I understand how you feel, and I validate your right to feel the way you do! It is VERY frustrating (and defeating) to offer truth, hope and healing...just to have a person, (that EVERYone believes is an 'expert' looking out for their best interests) attach your truths and render them 'dangerous' or useless :(

But we NEVER know just who heard the words/seeds of truth, and how fertile the ground is/was on which those seeds landed. One day you may see a tree where you thought your seed was washed away! :)

In the meantime, if you want to arm yourself with understanding as to why this all happened and why it is that 'experts' cannot hearken to your truth, this is THE best site I've EVER found.
http://www.ahealedplanet.net/medicine.htm#beginnings

The Medical Racket

Once you have this knowledge, you'll understand why it is that the majority of 'experts' really have no chance at EVER seeing the truth. And that helps aLOT in overcoming our frustration in all aspects of our spirit...AND helps us to pick n' choose the 'right words' in the future, so that our words CAN be more effective.

You rock, Phoebe....ROCK ON!

Unyquity

I hear you...I've not figured out why Iodine sets people into a tither but I've had the same experience. I posted about results some women were having with fibroids on an ALTERNATIVE FIBROID group and got blasted by a few members. It's really wierd since I never tell anyone what to do just share information or experiences. And these are women desperate to get rid of their fibroids.

So ....you've got company to vent away to!

Lynn

If it were me, I would go back and re-post it.

Free speech will always offend some, that is the price. If one is afraid of "bothering" someone else with their opinions, that is the result of television training. The real party at fault is the recipient, who chooses to let it bother them. The recipient can equally choose to ignore what they perceive as bunk. If they don't , then it speaks of their acumen.

Just like the concept that the world is not the center of the solar system , as stated by Copernicus and Galileo was harmful to the Church, so too is it that other miniscule minds will feel threatened by other truths.

Don't let them intimidate you. You are you, and if you want to put your words there, you will. This is how you define yourself and what you stand for. You can also choose to not post them.

If the goal is to be counted among the masses of the timid, who kept their minds and mouths shut, that is an easy one.

Every now and then one needs to endure a little heat so that, if for no other reason, one gets a bit accustomed to the experience and can begin learning how to adapt to that conditon. Web forums are great for aiding this particular learning experience. It seems that some times, a lot of people are hesitant to say what they honestly think OR feel for a given topic because they are still thinking in conventional terms of discussions where they are face to face (or phone to phone.... in person) with people and the dynamic is quite a bit different. On the web, all we are with respect to how others view us is just some knickname/handle who has a particular familiar style about how they post / talk, on-line. Otherwise, we're invisible to each other....except perhaps for the super secret homeland security spies "looking out for our best interests" ;) In other words, let 'er rip, no need to hold back, don't hesitate to tell your forum neighbors what's on your mind, what you think and what you feel as the case may be. I'm not advocating being rude or impolite, but neither am I advocating being somebody who feels a need to stand down to others. Think of this as just a valuable learning experience in the art of communication/discussion.


This said, there was a definite red flag raised in what you had posted earlier... .at least, it's something that I would take as a red flag indicating that some of the folks I'm involved in discussion with are not necessarily playing with a full deck of their own cards, but instead are attempting to play with cards that somebody else gave them so they could pretend they are their own cards.

"and that without presenting scientifically documented studies and peer reviews..."

This kind of red flag would also whisper to me that - depending on what I was looking to get out of the debate, it might not be not worth the expending of energy to continue discussion/debate with such closed minded people in the first place..... but then again, if I was in the mood to get in some extra practice....just for the fun of it, perhaps.....then it very well might be worth giving up the energy necessary to do this :)


Something nearly all of us have in common is that permeating our combined conscious & subconscious existance is the waste and residue of the never-ending flow of varied, multi-faceted, dressed-up, public-opinion-shaping propaganda that we have been constantly bombarded with all our lives. Included in this swamp of conventional wisdom that plays for us, subliminally in many instances, 24-7, is the notion that our high institution of mainstream "science" and their pet notion of "peer reviews" constitute genuine, legitimately gathered facts; baloney! Frequently there is little basis in actual fact that Science and their peer reviewed studies are credible and worth anything more than the $$ that covertly funded them in the first place. Mainstream Science does not study anything on a whim, nor do they decided to not study anything on a whim. What they end up being motivated to study, and not, is to the tune of he/she who pays the piper; plain and simple. Given the establishment we've been stuck with the past century or so, the ruse is a fairly simple one to pull off. The same filthy rich filthy people that had mastered control & operation of money/banking/finances/commerce/industry by as early as early 1900s were then able to parlay that power & influence into seizing control of other institutions - such as education - lower and higher. Control of higher education (and the colleges and universities and Deans and "endowements" they ride in on) also means control of many other related institutions/industries, to include Science and medicine and religion. It also means that those in control of these institutions have been able to edit and re-write history so that they can continually cover up the their own filthy tracks of having perpetrated all this ... or at least try to, in the process.

When one considers how much influence and control is in the hands of those who control our high institutions, it immediately stops being a mystery, and it immediately stops being inconceivable that such a Conspiracy could exist. It immediately stops being these and instantly becomes a no-brainer. And do not expect there to be any peer-reviewed scientific studies out there to back up these statements :)

All this said, stop beating yourself up and coming off like you did something wrong or improper by posting whatever you posted on that other board; you didn't. It's still a free world....kinda.....partly......sorta..... so try to enjoy it for whatever it may be worth, to you, while it lasts :)

At least you tried to educate some people and perhaps you did. When I was teaching, it helped to find a positive in each day. Sometimes I could see the light in a student's eyes, and I would know a seed was planted. Probably you have planted some seeds. My bet is someone will ponder and explore.

and THAT'S the thing that amazes me, that there's ALL KINDS of info to back this up and people look at it with such suspicion...a few links for you:


http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodineref.html



http://www.breastcancerchoices.org/iodineinfo.html


and
http://www.iodine4health.com
has a TON of stuff!

and, keep on keepin' on, girl:)

Honey, know what you mean. I was diagnoised with Costochondritis (inflammation of the rib cartilidge) which is almost debilitating. I first joined a support group on Yahoo. I ended up at CZ from all my searching, and amazingly enough, I cured myself of this (which the docs could not do for over 3 years). Of COURSE I went back to that group to tell them. Man o man did I get lambasted...big time. And I was offended actually. If you go on that group, there is so much drug use, and surgery (scraping cartilidge - yikes), people getting electrodes inserted in their spines...the list goes on and on. By posting all my new found alt health protocols, I was told I was a quack, and not at all supportive of people looking for help. OMG....At first I got pissed. Then I thought, well, it's the internet, no one is in my face yelling at me (which would be horrible). Once I realized that I could post and then read responses without emotion I truly crossed over.

But here's the deal. You have no idea how many people are reading those posts. Perhaps thousands. These are people that will not necessarily believe the debators. I've had many many women secretly email me from those Yahoo posts asking me more. Many are here now. Some have gone back to post their own miraculous pain relief and get the same treatment as I.

You don't need to get into a debate. You just post and walk away and only answer question from people that want to know more. Totally ignore the rest.

There are tons of allopathic sites stating studies on Iodine. My best friend is an OB/GYN and she's reading up on it because of my carefully selected links for her. She's not ready to discuss this yet with me, but it's the first time I've gotten her attention.

I love the people at CZ. Perhaps a few could hurt my feeling because I've know them for awhile, but not many. I'm definitely not always right, but I believe what I believe and post fearlessly.

The beauty of the net regarding free speech is self evident. It has set us all free. I hope it stays this way.

Go for it....what are they going to do to you? Probably make you buy the next round of virtual drinks.....boo ha.

Ms. Molly (on her friggin high horse)

This cliché seems to be appropriate. A man may well bring a horse to the water, but he can not make him drink without he will.

*smile*
Ana