i was suffering similarly to your husband and have cured it all with diet and fasting.

my wife still eats what she wants, all cooked food, microwave(havent used one of those for four years), canned, prepared, meat, the works. she will be hurting when she does get ill. meantime, she continues to store her toxins and add to her mass. she doesnt even believe her own eyes with regard to me.

julieuma,

'No doubt about it, it's definitely the ole 'rock and a hard place' situation :(

I empathize with ya, gal. For me, it's SO important to "be one" with my husband, and if he doesn't share my enthusiasm (or balks at it, or 'shuts it down'), I feel like part of ME has been crushed or cut off...there's just nothing good about that feeling at all.

I don't mean for this to sound/be insulting toward men (because I don't think it's a bad thing that we're different at all), but sometimes they are SO different than us, that we forget to do the things that motivate them (or we assume the same things that motivate us WILL motivate them), of course, that's not always the case. Just like the ole "average stereotypical" sex-thing. We girls want to be talked to, communicated with, stroked, played with, respected, loved, nurtured and romanced to 'get in the mood' - lucky guys, all they need is a quick look at a half-naked body, and they're in the mood before we can even think to say 'in the mood'.

Most times, 'average-sterotypical' guys just don't need, want, or appreciate all that other stuff...or they don't need, want, or appreciate it until they've experienced how wonderful it is to hop into the sack with a woman that's had the chance to be motivated in a way that works for her, and is seriously ready to go at it :) And once they experience that a time or two, then they're all about learning more!

That being the case, one of the things that has always worked well for me, is to just 'lay it on the line' with the food, in the most tempting, appealing, (almost sexual!) way I possibly can. Okay then, so you don't WANT to talk about it the food, communicate about it, stroke/play/respect/love/nuture and romance it...so how about it I just make it look really good and taste even better?! :) Since I LOVE to cook (I'm an artist, and I consider cooking to be a fantastic art form), so it's easy for me, but even if it's NOT easy for you, there's still lots of things you can try/do.

Here's a really good one that most ANYbody can't resist (male OR female). Uncooked Peach/Banana Pie. (since I don't know your preference/limits on diet, I'll just give you the basics, and you can adjust them however it'll work for ya).

--One unbaked pie crust (or baked, if you "do" cooked food). I use crumbled/ground 'sweet crackers'or granola mixed with partially ground nuts, a bit of sucanat and ghee.
--A couple-three cups of juicy fresh sliced peaches and a banana or two. Mix them together with a couple of tablespoons of lemon juice, sprinkle a bit of sucanat on 'em, mix them up real good, and leave them at room temperature for a couple hours to get good n' juicy.
--Pour off the juice (add enough water to equal a couple of cups total liquid), add a bit of almond extract/vanilla and natural sweetner to taste and thicken it (I cook the juice on the stove-top and add a bit of organic gelatin or cornstarch, but you can use agar, and you don't HAVE to boil it to get it to thicken.
--Put the fruit in the pie crust, pour the yummy thickened fruit juice over the top (making sure the juice gets down into the slices of fruit), put it in the fridge to chill...and you can betcher-bippy, he'll eat half of it.

Wallah, two peaches and a banana, down the hatch. And those leftover fresh peaches'll start looking a LOT better to him, too :)

And just like with anyone you're trying to assist to eat better, always adjust things to what they really like. For example, my hubby is a raisin fanatic...so almost anything I make with lots of raisins really gets his attention. You said he likes berries. Hmmm, while organic dried berries ARE pricey, if it'd get him to eating more fruit, then maybe it's worth the price to make some special treats. For example, I just finally found organic tapioca (here http://www.azurestandard.com/
AZURE STANDARD) and by soaking the berries AND the tapioca 'pearls' together in water and adding a bit of sweetner and thickener, you end up with a wonderfully sweet concoction VERY similar to tapioca pudding...but with a fruit 'juice' base, instead of dairy. And it makes a FANTASTIC topping for all types of pancakes and french toast, too. The variations are limited only by your imagination and taste buds :)

Also, it's SO easy to get frustrated and feel defeated, that sometimes we find ourselves sounding like our mothers about the whole thing. And nobody is gonna change their eating habits because "mommy said so", or get excited about food if the underlying message is, "Eat your spinach, it's GOOD for you".

(By the way, I don't consider stuff like this to be 'underhanded' or 'trickery', I expect my spouse to know enough about females -and care enough about me and our relationship- to help motivate me to do good things, in the ways a female needs or likes to be motivated. And I expect the same of myself :)

The other thing that has been an amazing too for me, is to get him interested in all the various 'conspiracy theories'...remembering, we women tend to want to take care of the cave - the nurturing, understanding of the kids, the cooking, the feeding, the "making the nest", and making the nest peaceful and good. Guys (typically anyway) tend to be the warriors, hunters, and protectors. When my hubby started learning and discerning all the various ways the government and "powers that be" were threatening his life, wife, health and safety, he became MUCH more interested and enthusiastic about talking to me about 'my end of the deal'. And of course, in the meantime, I became more much knowledgeable about the issues that were more interesting to him. And eventually, we both kinda 'melded together' and really started being genuinely interested in each others 'stuff' :) If you don't already have it bookmarked or know about it, here's a couple of GREAT sites for starters:

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041221155307646
911Truth.org ::::: The 9/11 Truth Movement

http://www.whale.to/
WHALE

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/
The Truth Seeker

http://educate-yourself.org/
Educate-Yourself.org - Natural Healing Therapies, Hidden Science, the New World Order, World Wide Electronic Mind Control, Population Reduction, and possible Earth Changes

How does all that apply to changing one's eating habits? Here's an example:

Reading and learning about 'conspiracy theories' and the REAL reason food is the way it is, can have incredible impact!

Most of know that was not even a disease called diabetes until after they started refining sugar. In fact, the only people that could AFFORD refined sugar were the wealthy/royalty. They actually had 'sugar parties' and used sugar as a drug like cocaine for it's rapid stimulant effect. And then came diabetes. So let's take an imaginary child (say in the 8-12 years old range) that's a total sugar junkie, and we care a LOT about him/her, and we want him to get off the white sugar. And we've tried tempting them with 'good' sugar and fruit; we've cajoled, we've demanded, we've punished...and we've gotten absolutely nowhere (in fact, the whole situation has probably gotten worse, because now the child thinks that you're mean, hates you, and thinks you're trying to take all the fun stuff that he/she likes away forever). So then, somebody else comes along and sits down with the child and a pile of books. And they show him beets and sugar cane, and how sugar looks when it's natural. And they show him pictures of the sugar plantations of old, with pictures of people and children (slaves) being beaten, whipped and brutalized just so the plantation/refinery owners can make a lot of money; and then they show him pictures of the the slave ships, where hundreds of men/women/children were forced into the hulls of ships for weeks on end, without adequate food, water and or sanitation in the tropical weather, because they needed these slaves so they could make more money on sugar. Then that person shows them how it USED to be too expensive to buy white sugar, but when the "big people" found out how addictive sugar was (and how much money they could make) by selling, they figured they could make millions more dollars if they lowered the price and addicted EVERYBODY...not just the rich people.

Then that person shows that child pictures of a healthy pancreas and a diseased pancreas...and pictures of children shooting up insulin, poking holes in themselves with needles several times a day to take their blood sugar. And then, the BOMB! Pictures of people who are blind; in wheelchairs; bedridden with oozing bedsores that won't heal; pictures of rotten, grangrenous legs and feet and pictures of brutal amputations. And let them figure out the rest (grin, kids are SO smart). (Oh, duh me, I totally forgot about the part how the doctors and hospitals make zillions of dollars too, by helping keep people sick).

And you guessed it, that child will NEVER eat sugar again for the rest of their lives...and they'll thank and praise the person that took the time to teach them.

Granted, we adults are not that easily impressed. And we have a storehouse of knowledge already (that REALLY hurts our ego and pride to admit we learned all wrong and need to unlearn). But if we get really interested in a subject (and don't have someone in our face telling us how wrong & bad we are), we're likely to admit the truth to ourselves and start learning even more.

Please don't get me wrong...I'm not saying you've ever acted like the mean evil mother/adult/wife I've portrayed above. I'm just trying to give examples that show how much easier it is to change and learn because of our OWN knowledge and what WE decide we want, than it is to have someone try and change us. :)

Here's a GREAT site for that kind of learning about food in those ways (if you don't already have it or know about it):

http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/
Welcome to The Doctor Within

Anyway, that's all I have time for now. Even if my specific ideas didn't 'ring any bells', I sure hope maybe my thinking will give you some ideas or help.

Blessings!

Unyquity

IT is EXTREMELY RARE to find a couple who agree on their health. Most if not all of my customers over the years have problems in the house. Many woman and even men, must HIDE their herbs from their nagging spouse.

To be equally yoked is not a easy thing in this world, to be, you must have allowed God 100% control, otherwise odds are, you did the choosing based on all the WRONG reasons and ended in conflicks the rest of your life; this is why the Bible suggest you may be better off living in another building that fighting with your spouse and why PAUL suggested you NEVER EVER have a thought of the opposite sex. He was able to acheive this goal because his lips never touched meat. The meat eater is a sex addict, just as he is a meat addict and seeks an ill life. The consumptions of proteins leads to death down many differant avenues.

For one person to eat meat and the other not in the same house is asking for violence sooner than later, unless one is extremely submissive, which all your LOCAL CHURCHES via BIG BROTHER (pope)teaches the little girls to be.

I will guess I know as many men that hide their herbs from their wives as I knoe women that hide their herbs from their husbands.

Luckily your not responsible for their sins and the only motto is to wait until they pass on and if desired get a new mate where better yoked. As loved ones you want them to have better health, but when they are so poisoned that they will hate you for wanting to help them, they will be the only ones to deal with their maker and pay the proper penalties.

The BIBLE makes it very plain. Your either HOT or COLD... To give in to bad things makes you warm, in that your doing what you consider EVIL and GOD hands out the hardest lessons to those that participate in things that they "KNOW" to be against NATURE.

Some spouses come around in time and more seek more and more drugs and choose death over life. You can lead a horse to water, but near impossible to make him drink, aso it is with health and your mate. They may "FAKE" it at times when forced to, but until they LEARN, they will never believe and do it correct. Many a spouce serves their children foods that kill, ONLY because they don't want to make waves with their spouse. The grave yards are full of such children.

All most can do, is live by example and trust in GOD to get you through the hard times. God makes it clear, it is not your job to change another person, each comes to God on his own, each responsible for his or her actions. Nature hands out justice pure as white snow, no sin escapes punishment, no, NOT ONE!

MH

julieuma,

Unfortunately, I can empathize with your situation. Though, I think your husband eats better than mine does.

We have gotten into so many arguements about healthy food. I really want him to eat healthily and be healthy, but our arguements generally revolve around food that is in our house because we have two small children. If he wants to poison himself with diet sodasor junk foods, then so be it, but he should not have it available for the kids to eat/drink.

We now have mostly good foods in the house, and my husband at least tries to hide the foods he must have that I don't think the children should eat. But, this has come at a high price to our relationship, I think.

I get so frustrated because I feel like everything I say gets ignored. My husband goes to cook something and uses tap water, and when I tell him not to, I am seen as crazy or extreme. But I cannot help to make a comment because I don't want the children ingesting that; they get enough crap at school and out with friends.

Also, my husband's health is not so great either. He is likely heading for back surgery soon. Though he did do a 2-day pineapple juice fast with me a few months ago and started to try to eat healthier, once his doctor suggested surgery could "fix him up", I think he really gave up on trying to heal himself.

I can tell you that I feel really lonely in our relationship sometimes. Though I don't have to hide my herbs or anything, I feel like I am being criticized every time I try something new and it is very frustrating. I remember the first time I did a liver flush, my husband referred to it as "killing myself". Though, I think he feels the same way - that he is being criticized when he eats something I think is bad. So it just leads to a lot of tension all around.

Also, I feel resentful because I feel like he is messing up his health himself, and then I will be the one who has to take care of him when/if he cannot take care of himself and I don't think that's very fair.

I get the same reaction from my loved ones. They simply don't want to hear about internal cleansing. They don't believe in it, and they think I am wasting my time. Meanwhile, one of the them sweats profusely at night sometimes(I think it's worms or some other internal dis-ease). A few of my aquaintances are literally starving to death, but are overweight. They are always hungry, and don't understand why. Now, I'm not going to force my opinions on anyone, but they could use advice on cleansing so that their body actually gets the nutrients from their food.

I learned a long time ago that it's a futile attempt to try to explain to people why white sugar(processed table sugar[C&H sugar]) is deadly, and how it's important to eat organic and natural as much as one possibly can to avoid consuming all those antibiotic, pesticides, steroids, and herbicides that are in our meat and veggies.

They would rather listen to their doctor, who incidently only seem to treat problems once they get them, and seem to not try to prevent them before they occur. That's where they get their money. Doctors make more money "treating" the diseaase than they do preventing them.

Today I start another round of colon cleansing using Colonix. I will eat veg broths, fruits, fruit juices, lots of water, and anything else "light". I hope to expel a good amount of MP, as I heard Colonix is an excellent product. Wish me luck! :)

Happy Cleansing to All,
:) AnonymousJane_01

I sat here and waisted probably a good hour reading everyones responses. All I heard was people complaining about their spouses. Sure its good to vent your frustration, there is more room out than there is in. However the only person that can make a difference is your SPOUSE. You must go to that person that you have a problem with . Somehow you have to communicate with this person your genuine concern about their health. What effects one effects the other, bottom line! You chose to marry this person and obviously you have something in common or you would not have married. It is OUR duty to one another to educate. NOTHING will change by keeping our mouths shut! I personally will talk to everyone about what I have learned. By keeping my mouth shut and waiting for someone to die [when I have info that can change their lives], I would be just a guilty as those doctors prescribing poison. I do not want that persons blood on my hands. Don't give up the fight that is what THEY want a passive society. Look where it has got us thus far! Remember people have to be de-programmed, for some that may take a life time. If there is one thing I know love conquers all and if you truley love this person you must and will find a way! I personally would pray about it and ask for strength and wisdom. So many people forget the power of prayer. And yes I'm married and drive my wife crazy at times, but she listens to me because I listen to her. I truly love and respect my wife. She's the one with the "smarts". I know when I push too much there is an opposing reaction so I ease off. I keep a lot of reading material around and let her find it on her own. And if all fails see a marriage counselor.