what's wrong with soy milk? 
sequoia
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Morei read on the new west diet about not eating or drinking soy. i've been giving my little girl soy milk and rice milk since she quit nursing, so obviously i'm a little freaked out right now. can someone please explain what's wrong with it and/or give me some advise on an alternative? i don't want to go dairy. thanks for any help!- Re: what's wrong with soy milk? Fil
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MoreThis is a reply to # 622,211Please read as much as possible on soy!! It is causing little girls to menstruate as young as 8 or 9 and even younger. It causes high oestrogen. It is also very toxic unless eaten in the way that it has been traditionally eaten in Asia. ie. fermented into products like miso, tempeh, natto and so on.
Click on the link below. The people who started this site twigged about soy when they started feeding it to their birds and the birds developed beak/bone deformities, matured early and died young.
Some links:
www.soyonlineservice.co.nz
www.westonaprice.org
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- thank you sooo much for your help sequoia 21 y 2,498
- Re: what's wrong with soy milk? SqueakyClean
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This is a reply to # 622,212I believe thedoctorwithin.com has a good article as well. It is called something like "Soy-tainly Not" A lot of info including some detailed chemical information.
- Re: what's wrong with soy milk? valerie
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This is a reply to # 622,216So, what's the best milk to drink? Regular? Organic? Rice milk? I've been wondering this for a long time as well. Thanks!
Val- Alternatives (rice milk) SqueakyClean
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This is a reply to # 622,219Definitely not dairy. Well, I guess it might be okay for some people if they can find nonpasteurized nonhomogenized pasture raised, etc...
I personally don't use rice milk because I never have a need for milk (I don't ever want to drink it, and I don't eat cereal). But I switched my family to rice milk. I figure that, while it might not be particularly nutritious, it's brown rice, it can't be that bad, certainly a lesser evil than soy or dairy.
Some people make their own almond milk, using almonds and water in a blender I believe. Some people like "coconut milk" (see the Coconut forum for more details).- Re: Alternatives (rice milk) Fil
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This is a reply to # 622,222I'm lucky to get organic pasture raised raw milk and I'm thriving on it (as well as making it into kefir yoghurt and yummy cheeses). My next choice I guess would be organic/unpasteurised goat's milk. And if I couldn't get those, I'd have coconut milk (which I do anyway, yum yum), homemade almond milk and sesame milk.
Basically I'd stay away from anything processed. I wonder about the rice milk too. I don't know how they make it. And then, what do they add to it?- milk for calcium needs cheak out jui... Wrenn
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btw if youare only giving her milk for clacium , you willnot get that form coconutmilk or almond milk
there are excellent juicing recipes form the juice man that one glass give s you MORE calcium than a glass of dairy milk.
(where do they get calcium form them selves ? *smile *
here are a few of his recipes for calcium/
7 oz carrot juice
6 oz apple juice
3 oz (your choice parsley, or spinach, or kale)
or 10 oz apple plus 5 oz grape plus 1 oz lemon
or 4 oz broccoli plus 9 oz carrots plus 3 oz celery
each of those juiced recipes give 16 oz of drink/ all giv emore calcium than a 8 oz glass of dairy milk..
good luck. *smile *
Ami B.
- milk for calcium needs cheak out jui... Wrenn
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- Re: Alternatives (rice milk) Fil
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- Re: what's wrong with soy milk? valerie
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- Ulterior motives SqueakyClean
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This is a reply to # 622,211Might I add, while we're on the topic, that the soy bandwagon came along as a result of American farming policy, encouraging farmers to plant corn and soy from fence to fence (everywhere). These large amounts need to be used somehow, so then people started promoting the health advantages of soy. Well, there are some things that people see in it, but there are more disadvantages that people aren't aware of.
The bottom line is, as usual, about the dollar. If you read the book "Fat Land: How Americans became the fattest nation in the world" you can read more about this. Money is the reason why soy is popping up in popularity and being plugged so by government health agencies and pharmeceutical corporations. On the other side of the coin, notice how high fructose corn syrup is being added to almost everything possible? The same reason is behind it, and the Sugar in that goes straight to the liver, one of many reasons so many Americans (in particular) are getting fatter and fatter, and more incidence of diabetes. Things are always more than they seem on the surface...- Re: Ulterior motives lapis
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- Another perspective Fil
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Just wanted to share this message from a yahoo list group I subscribe to called "Native Nutrition". I think she says it in a nutshell and she says it well:
"What I love about this list is that we are concerned about the Science AND politics of food and eating. My choice to buy very expensive raw grassfed dairy from a small family farmer is, first and foremost, a health decision. However, the fact that he treats his animals humanely, doesn't use nasty chemicals that pollute the environment, and isn't part of the agribusiness I detest all figure into this choice. If the vegans knew how soy is ravaging the earth and our bodies all over the globe,
they might think twice about what constitutes truly compassionate food choices."
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This is a reply to # 622,231Fil, you're right - that is nicely said. Especially the last sentence, what an understatement!
- vegan / no soy Wrenn
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This is a reply to # 622,233i am am about 90 % vegan and i ea an dconsume almost no soy product. surprising ly quite alot of other vegens don't either.
i don't like the taste of it at all. i get calcium form juiced veggies/ and if i really need a milk substitute. coconut milk home made is very easy to do tastes great !!!.
also we rarely buy anything with corn syrup in it.
if iwa nt to amke a home made treat/ i can melt 100 % cocoa in small bit of virgin coconut oil add maybe a malls bi tof peanut butteer and dip banansa or such whatever into it an dput on tray in freezer ofr 15/30 minutes
there are many ways to get around stuff/ use applesauce in baking/
rahter than oil. etc. i do liek Sugar on a few things/
so instead i put grade b maple syrup on a grapeeefruit / i know that sounds terrible . but it really is good.
there are very few things i Sugar nowadays , but when i do , i usssse the maple syrup instead of proceseed sugar...
i agree folks nee dto b eduacated/ on chnags in diet/
but not all vegans are soy eaters. in fact al;ot of vegans... (tho not me) arre not able to handle soy/ digestively / so avoid it for that reasosn also.
maybe once amonth i MIGHT have a soy vegetable pattie/ but relaly ususlaly not/ cause i liek brown rice and beans and veggetables as a meal to make on my own/ it is cheaper/than buying the patties anyhow...
i think the folks that buy the most soy are those that maybe have just becoem vegetarians and are not sure yet on what htey should eeat... they jsut assume they HAVE to eat soy... (blech )
it is sad. when thee ar e so may good tastign and better protein stuff to amek anyhow.
Ami B.- Amen! SqueakyClean
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Right, I agree... I think some people decide to become vegetarian but don't know what to do. I've known people to scarf down white flower products (think cookies and brownies), tons of dairy, and lots of soy stuff... which is actually worse than a high veggie and some meat diet!
I know some vegetarians (7th day adventists) here in asia and lots of vegetarians of all sorts here in asia (buddhists) eat soy or wheat glutin "mock meat" and then top it with sauces, etc, eat white or brown rice... YUCK! That is not healthy, because they all but neglect veggies, especially raw veggies, and little fruit. (It's not in their mindset to eat raw veggies).
It's definitely a matter of finding the proper alternatives and methods of preparing foods. If people get over the idea that they need to "replace" meat it will help them a lot.- agreed/ n/m
Wrenn
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This is a reply to # 622,262I got my period a week early after starting to take the Black-Walnut hull capsules. I didn't make the connection however. Last week I was reading about the Black-Walnut hulls, and one site said not to use them for more than two weeks at a time. It did not explain why. Does anyone know more about this?
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- Amen! SqueakyClean
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- vegan / no soy Wrenn
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- Re: Another perspective SqueakyClean
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- Another perspective Fil
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- ps/i agree with you completely btw/ ... Wrenn 21 y 2,584
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