Still stone flood and fatigue 
Hildegard
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Dear Andreas,
As I claimed already four weeks ago – “the stone of the month” was still inside me despite the super christmas liver cleanse yielding more than 2.000 stones.
Last weekend I flushed again despite your advise to give my liver a rest of at least 6 weeks because
Again, I followed the same different protocol: half lemon juice half grapefruit juice, more olive oil than recommended, another OO drink the next morning after the third ES serving, warm bath after the second ES serving .
This time the procedure was really painful. About 30 minutes after the oil drink I literally felt something big migrating from my gallbladder into the small intestine. About 10 hours later the “stone of the month” was “born” - I passed a huge stone accompanied by COUNTLESS smaller ones. I have only a vague idea about the total number of stones but I guess it was something in the order of 300 - the tiny ones not taken into consideration.
And now this constant pain on my right side has RETURNED three days after the flush as well as the fatigue. I am sure I will have to submit myself to further flushes.
However, thy skin has made an impressive change - it has become a baby's skin,my sinus problem seems to be solved, the cold intoleraance has nearly completely subsided, as well as the arthralgia in the finger joints.
And - wonder over wonder - after 18 years five of my 10 infected toes nails are free of fungus infection - which was a spontanous recovery!!!!!!!!!!
Can I expect that the five remaining will clear up sooner or later???? I would make me more than happy.
I am mainly writing this message for other forum users in order to encourage them to keep flushing because my flushing period was full of setbacks and recurrence of symptoms. It was good not to give up!!!
Your opinion is as always very appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Hildegard
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- Re: Still stone flood and fatigue #20677
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This is a reply to # 493,384Hildegard,
did you use complete Moritz recipe ? I mean did you use colonics before and just after every flush ?
bye
andrea- Re: Still stone flood and fatigue Hildegard
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MoreThis is a reply to # 493,394Dear Andrea,
yes I use the Moritz protocol and I am pretty sure that I am one of the rare subjects that harvour stones inside the liver and gall bladder that exceed by far 5.000.
The more I flush the more of my symptoms (and the list was VERY long) subside or improve.
Hildegard- Re: Still stone flood and fatigue #20677
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MoreThis is a reply to # 493,395Hildegard,
so one colonic before and one after the flush right ?
I've done seven flushes but I didn't do colonics..... I improved a bit....but there is something wrong ....my skin is dried ...even thought a drink a lot ...last week I had a painful attack on my left lobe on my head....maybe was a migration of a big stones inside the liver....do you think we can modify recipe as per your test ?
can I do a colonic now after two weeks from last flush....and furthermore I had emorhoids (sorry mispelling) once maybe colonics could hurt me....
my wife says that i got older more than 10 years...and this is true a have problems in doing sex...(I never had problems before i begin with liver flush)...
could you add something ?
bye
andrea- Re: Still stone flood and fatigue boronia
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This is a reply to # 493,397Hi,
Sorry to butt in....just an idea but perhaps you're lacking in essential fatty acids/oils, vitamin A and zinc, Lack of these can affect your skin and also diminish sex drive. Try some good quality oils like coconut, flax, olive. Eat betacarotene rich foods like carrots, sweet potatoes, butternut squash, dark green leafy vegetables and nuts and seeds for zinc.
Anne - Re: Still stone flood and fatigue Hildegard
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This is a reply to # 493,397Well Andrea,
sei un Italiano o hai solo un nome Italiano????
Well, I did 12 liver flushes so far. The periods between flush 3 to 10 where full of setbacks. I had times my skin was so dry that I really looked years older. Most symptoms returned - I had real healing crises, before they subsides and disappeared.
I have no idea on how bad your health state was neither about your reasons for flushing. But I can tell from my own experience that if you were feeling very bad you simply have to be patient and go on cleansing your body even if it seems sometimes that things are getting worse.
Detoxifying is a real hard job for the body, but sooner or later you will see the end of the tunnel.
I made a list of symptoms one year ago and would say this list helped me a lot. It keeps me motivated because the list of symptoms makes me aware what has improved. And this is a lot.
Maybe Andreas will be able to tell you more.
Good luck
Hildegard
- Re: Still stone flood and fatigue #20677
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This is a reply to # 493,404sono italiano my surname is Bingen (just kidding)
thanks for your support Hildegard ....I'will go on .....but could you add your improvements since the beginning ?
thanks a lot
andrea
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This is a reply to # 493,406Hi Andrea VON Bingen *lol*
the improvements since the beginning are:
1.neurological disorders in the legs - disappeared
2. vocal cords disorders/ difficulties to speak - disappeared
3. skin itching - nearly disappeared
3. dry skin - disappeared (did skin brushing)
4. cold intolerance - improved
5. total lack of appetite - disappeared
6. nail fungus infection - 5 toes spontaneous remission
7. severe bloating - disappeared (unless for the time new stones are moving and block again the "exits" than again severe)
8. very horny skin on my feet - now baby skin
9. tired eyes - now shiny
10. bladder infection - disappeared with D-mannose
11. blocked nose - now free
12. naps during the day - now an exception
13. car driving not tiring me as one year ago
14. waist cirumference - "Sophia Loren" waist now
15. lower back pain - only on very rare occasions
16. left shoulder pain (since childhood) - MARVEL UNBELIEBABLE COMPLETELY GONE
17. very cold hands - improved
18. very dry nose - improved
19. allover reaction time - improved
20. mind and thinking - clearer and calmer
21. arrhythmia - nearly gone
All this happened since July 2004. I am still not on top of my energy because I was VERY stoned.
Hildegard
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- Re: for Andrea Andreas Moritz
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This is a reply to # 493,408Dear Hildegard,
Thank you so much for sharing your inspirational expereinces with us. You truly deserve feeling better.
Blessings,
Andreas
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This is a reply to # 493,384thanks for filling us in. Im on my third ever liver flush today-- and was very pleased with the results in my last two flushes.
I got inspired to do liver flushes, after reading the post of one of the members who quit birthcontrol pills cold turkey- then gained weight.
Andreas mentioned to her to do a super liver flush, etc.
I got lots of bright green tiny stones out during the first flush- and chaff. The 2nd flush produced many larger dull green stones.
Im wondering what's going to happen during this flush.
One thing I have to say is -- After you do your first liver flushes, you are much more careful of what you eat, etc..anymore. Re-polluting a freshly cleaned liver is like splashing ink over a newly drycleaned cashmere sweater!
My skin has more natural color in it now-- instead of the pale white it always is this time of year.-- also less fine lines and more smooth complexion after only my 2nd flush. - Wow! You should post this on the
li... Owen
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This is a reply to # 493,384Dear Hildegard,
Congratulations on having passed
that gigantic stone, as well as
all the other smaller ones! Your
story is going to help a lot of
other people. I urge you to post
both your first message -- and the
last one that lists all the symptoms
that have disappeared since you
began liver-flushing -- on the liver
flush forum. If you're unable to do
that yourself, ask one of the moderators to help you (on the
Suggestions for Webmaster forum).
I hope you saved that huge stone.
Talk about a conversation piece!
Trust your intuition about how
to use it. Friends of yours, who
have never considered flushes,
will think twice when they see
that monster.
You write with wit and insight,
Hildegard. Please keep us posted on
your ongoing success story.
Blessings,
Owen- Re: Wow! You should post this on the... Hildegard
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This is a reply to # 493,412Dear Owen,
well if you are able copying my post into the liver flush forum feel free to do so.
I did not keep the stinky awkard waxy huge stone - because pictures of my face before and after flushing will be a lot more convincing. Believe me.
There are already a lot of people who do flushing encouraged by me.
My insight: Well - no wonder I have a doctor degree in veterinary medicine and earn my living with writing all sorts of texts about human medicine and biotechnology. With this background I could shot a bullet into my head if I were not able understanding all interactions in the body and the role of the liver for the entire organism. And frankly speaking - the medical textbooks and in particular pharmaceuticals are NOT telling the truth. This I see now very clearly.
Stones:
Stones are in my opinion only one good part of liver flushing. The other side of the coin is the interruption of the enterohepathic cycle by means of flushing e.g. all poisons metabolized by liver for elimination are not reabsorped in the lower parts of the intestine. This brings huge relief for the metabolism. And therefore liver flushingis good for anybody because of our very toxic environment. My opinion!
Liver fluhing is great. No doubt about this. But I really want to emphazise, that detoxifying your body is more than colon kidney and liver cleanses. This needs to be stressed.
I used apple pectin, alpha lipoic acid, DMSA, coffee enemas, took many ginger baths, espom salt baths, did skin brushing and quit consuming milk products, fish and meat.
It is a long way. It takes discipine and faith. Without these many success stories posted in curezone I never would have been able to continue because I had setbacks and moments I felt, this cleansing is a big nonsense.
That is the reason why I posted my story in the hope to encourage other people.
Thanks for your nice comment.
Take care
Hildegard
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This is a reply to # 493,426Hildegard, I was wondering if you used Andy Cutler's method
for Lipoic Acid and DMSA or worked with a Naturpath re: dosing,
etc.? Thanks for your reply.- Re: Wow! You should post this on the... Hildegard
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This is a reply to # 493,427Dear mother,
as far as lipoic acid and DMSA is concerned, I dosed both simply by feeling. 300 mg lipoic acid at night and 200 mg DMSA in intervals of one to two weeks.
Altogether I consumed 100 capsules of lipoic acid (300 mg each), 4.400 mg DMSA and 150 ml Olive leaf extract.
I forgot to tell that I also drank Peau d'Arco tee for three weeks. .
Lipoic acid was expensive but not very convincing, Peau d'Arco and Olive leaf extract helped me a lot.
Take care
Hildegard
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This is a reply to # 493,445Hi Hildegard,
I wondered in what respect did Pau D'Arco and Olive leaf extract help? Was it for viral infections?
Thanks!
Anne- Re: Wow! You should post this on the... Hildegard
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This is a reply to # 493,446Dear Anne,
since the day JFK was killed I had a sore throat and ear pain from a nearly deadly flu in my very early childhood.
Both improved as well as well as my weak immune system. Furthermore, I contribute it to olive leaf extract that five of my 10 fungus infected toe nails spontaneously healed. I am hoping the others will do so as well in the near future.
It helped improving my gut pain. Yes, you read right, my guts were painful and sort of inflamed or whatsoever. I don't care for the proper medical term.
Washing my hair in winter an going out two hours later was a garantee for a cold as well as walking in the rain. This has disappeard.
Now I walk in the snow without a scarf and without a cap. This was impossible all the years ago.
Take care
Hildegard- Re: Wow! You should post this on the... boronia
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This is a reply to # 493,448Thanks Hildegard,
It's fantastic that you've made such a great improvement :) I hope your health continues to improve!
Anne
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- Hildegard mother
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This is a reply to # 493,445Thanks so much for your reply to my question
about Lipoic Acid and DMSA. Also thanks so
much for posting about your successes on
your healing journey. I have now done 24
liver flushes for Frozen Shoulder and have
also helped many symptoms. I still have more
parasites and stones in there and brain fog,
but I have come a lone way so I will keep
flushing, bowel management, kidneys, etc.
until I feel alive and well again. Thanks
again!- Re: Hildegard Hildegard
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This is a reply to # 493,453Dear Mother,
I am really astonished about your brain fog and about the parasites you have despite 25 liver flushes (uihh).
As you might kno I am in Germany and parasites are not an issue for most of the people I know. Therefore, for me it is hard to beliebe that people harbour parasites. It might be different in the US.
Did you do anything to help your brain fog. From ym own experiences I can say that supplements of 300mg magnesium citrate and 800 mg calcium citrate were quite helpful. And also simply water.
If you feel still stoned I would really encurage you taking a very warm bath after the first ES serving. It helped me a lot expelling the stones. Since these baths all my flushes were a lot more successful and productive than without a warm bath.
Good luck
Hildegard- Hildegard please mother
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This is a reply to # 493,465Hildegard, people are not supposed to get
parasites in U.S. either but it happens far
more than Dr's ever diagnose. I ended up
with Frozen Shoulder two years ago--right
shoulder. I was told that I would have to
have surgery and the tendons were all frozen
up in there. I went to so many Holistic
and traditional doctors and no one knew what
was wrong. Then I read about Frozen Shoulder
in Hulda Clark's book--The Cure for All Disease.
In there she says that it take doing liver
flushes every two weeks--one to two years to
get well. I started liver flushing 14 months
ago and have passed all stages of Ascaria!! Yuck!!
My shoulder is nearly free, but now the pressure
in my liver is bulding up so fast after taking
6 weeks of Julia Chang's Herbs to get stuff
moving out of my liver and gallbladder that
now I have to do liver flushes every 3-4 days
because I get terrible IBS symptoms and horrible
pressure and even nausea and vomiting from all
the huge amount of stones and big masses of
parasitic debri coming forward so soon now
after each flush and blocking the bile ducts.
Apple cider vinegar has also hastened the movement
of stones and debri. Two flushes ago I passed a 2" by 3/4"
stone, a 1 1/2" by 3/4" stone and much
more. I suspect the brain fog is because
the debri keeps moving forward and blocking
the bile ducts so the bile is never clean.
I am doing colon clenasing, kidney support
always. Sure hope all this ends soon and I
am a R.N. and have been unable to work for
two years. Good sharing experiences with you.
Is your brain fog all gone? Also, I am working
with a Nutritionist and she had me do another
parasite test through a good lab and they found
a Protozoa recently which she wants me to take
herbs for. I will probably be taking more herbs
for that. The labs never pick up the big worm
parasites it seems. Perhaps the protozoa
(Cyclospora) may be causing the brain fog. Don't
know!- Re: Hildegard please Hildegard
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This is a reply to # 493,467Dear Mother,
hm, a liver flush every 3 to 4 days. This would kill me. My shortest distance between two flushes were 1 week.
My brain fog has greatly improved. It is not perfect yet but a lot better.
I can say everything that is good for the immune system helps me. This was peau d'arco and olive leaf extract. I really would like to try now cat's claw.
Have you ever considered supporting your body with natural immunstimulants. I am stressing this point because a friend of mine adopted a child from Afrika. This tiny little thing of four months was close to death because of hunger and had the weight of a 12 week old cat (1,5 kg). All organs were very weak and there were a lot of foodslitte Marie could not tolerate. She got nausea and vomiting. After a 6 weeks course with Peau d'Arco her food intolerance as well as her bowel problems had greatly improved.
I can only tell from my personal experience. Because of long standing antibiotica intake during my childhood my defense mechnism is definitely not on top and immunstimulants help me against brain fog.
Maybe this would be good for you as well. How knows.
Good luck
Hildegard
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