Green balls not gallstones!! 
#54286
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I'm here to dispute the idea that what you are expelling out of your liver are gallstones/liverstones. I have done 2 cleanses now, first one really got me excited. I thought that I had done a good thing by expelling a bunch of crud from my body, but the more research that I have done and by doing a second flush, I have come to the conclusion that my body made those green balls overnight from the ingredients lemon juice, grapeseed oil, and epson salt. For my second cleanse I wanted to dye the oil like I have read in the forums, but like everyone else I couldn't think of anything. But I did! An hour before my oil mixture at 10pm, I ate .5 ounces of natural organic chocolate. What do you think that I found inside my green droppings the next morning? That's right, chocolate. Not bile. And I also noticed that my droppings really smelled a lot like grapeseed oil. HMMMMM. If you want a really indepth, good cleanse, check out the book "Can we live 150 years" by Mikhail Tombak. I'm done being a guinea pig. From now on I'm going to eat all foods that are alkaline and that will take care of whatever I'm suffering. Peace!
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- Re: Green balls not gallstones!! spock2001us
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”This program is probably one of the best on the market, especially for the price.”
That is your proof?......you cut into a stone and found what you say is chocolate, and it smelled like oil?......that is your proof?....did you chemically test the chocolate?.......
Since you used the oil to make your gallbladder squeeze the stones out....there is a perfectly good reason why the stones would smell like oil....duh?????
As to the chocolate......I found a link to pics of stones that were cut in half and the center of them is very dark...some are dark green, and some are black in the center.....according to your theory, the person who passed these stones must have eaten chocolate, as you did, at the same time that they did the flush.....if they did not eat chocolate, then why are the center of the stones black?
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Also, why would you title your thread "proof that green balls are not gallstones"...when you obviously only smelled and looked at the stones without any other testing....
Or is this just a free ad for a book?
Shawn
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- Re: Green balls not gallstones!! #54286
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MoreThis is a reply to # 413,622Hey Spock, It was definitely chocolate. Melted actually, so it didn't look like the pictures that you linked to. And as for a free book advertisement, what do you think you all are raving about. One liver cleanse from someones book. Hey I don't want to ruffle feathers, I just want others to see that not everyone here believes in this certain cleanse. I think everyone should try out a more lengthy involved cleanse instead of doing this certain one over 5x. Everyone in my family has had their gallbladder removed, and that is definitely not going to happen to me.
You also might want to simmer down. Your post was a little aggressive.- Re: Green balls not gallstones!! spock2001us
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How can you say it was definately chocolate?....once again, because you ate chocolate with oil, and you passed stones that smelled of chocolate and oil does not prove anything.
As to the book by Hulda Clark e, I have not bought it and I get everything I need from this forum for FREE....I did a search for the book you reference "Can we live 150 years" and I cannot find any information other than websites to buy the book. I did find a few excerpts though such as the following:
For example, on page 171 he states:
"It is known that there are many contact points on the fingers that are connected with internal organs. For example, a ring on the fourth finger causes disorders of nipples, reproductive organs, and endocrine glands. A ring on the middle finger may cause arteriosclerosis or high blood pressure, a ring on the index finger -back pain, calcification of bones, and inflammations of spinal nerve roots." A few lines down on the same page he continues: "When you have time...massage the fingers of your right and left hand in turn, one minute each -massaging our finger influences our eyes. If you do such a massage every day, you will not need glasses and your hands will always feel rested."
So, the author, Mikhail Tombak, is claiming that if I rub my fingers a few times a day, I can eliminate my eyeglasses....hmmmmmm.....I had not heard that one...perhaps my doctor will know more about it....NOT!!!!
You also wrote:
"what do you think you all are raving about. One liver cleanse from someones book. Hey I don't want to ruffle feathers, I just want others to see that not everyone here believes in this certain cleanse. I think everyone should try out a more lengthy involved cleanse instead of doing this certain one over 5x."
There are several cleanses recommeded on this site in addition to the Liver Flush using olive oil and Epsom Salts .
Also, if you believe that the liver cleanse promoted by Hulda Clark e is something new that she is promoting, then she would have to be very old because the liver cleanse is actually chinese medicine that dates back over 1000 years.
Here are a few links for you to take a look at, and none of them are associated with Hulda Clark or her book:
http://www.sensiblehealth.com/gallbladder.html
http://easternhealingarts.com/Articles/ConquerChron.html
As to my tone...I enjoy a good discussion, that is all.
Shawn
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- Re: Green balls not gallstones!! anonymousjane_01
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This is a reply to # 413,621I am also skeptical about the Liver-Flush b/c I thought kidney and liver stones were supposed to be hard. I have heard all my life that passing stones were very painful. So to have multiple stones pass in someone with no discomfort or pain no less seems very questionable. That's not to say I don't think that the Liver-Flush is not a good idea; I think some type of cleansing is being done, particularly cholesterol, which is good. But stones...I don't think so.
Just my .02
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aj- incorrect procedure or the wrong cle... Thorn
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”This program is probably one of the best on the market, especially for the price.”
Two off the cuff cleanses proves nothing, even two correct procedures with out the proper precleansing protocal is no proof of anything!
Amatuerish proclamations are not worth the paper they are written on! These types of claims are no more then a novices bumbling exerience, hardly worth consideration!
Just a knee jerk reaction from someone conditioned to a cultural tic, that expects instant gratification and the throw away mentality that accompanies it!
One needs to put in the time and effort at either researching these cleanses or experiencing them and the many different protocal that works for ones own particular needs,to make this claim, this takes time and patience. Many attempts are often needed to adjust to each individual. Persistence is the key to success, adjusting and readjusting until you get the desired affects is often what is required in healing oneself!
I support these cleanses whole heartedly from experience, not from the testimony of someone with a few unsuccessful attempts as evidence!
- Re: incorrect procedure or the wrong... anonymousjane_01
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This is a reply to # 413,627I agree with you, and I intend to do one, but I don't think I'll be passing actual stones, maybe some other gunk though. I have read the posts that people say they feel healthier after doing one, so that's very encouraging for me.
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aj- Re: incorrect procedure or the wrong... spock2001us
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This is a reply to # 413,628That is good Jane.....whether they are stones or not, I do know that I also purge a whole lot of sludge from somewhere (hopefully my liver). I had not done a flush in about 2 years, but I had been feeling so run down lately, so I thought it was time to start flushing again. I started with a colon/ parasite cleanse including psyllium/bentonite shakes and last week I did a olive oil/ Epsom Salt flush. A week later and I certainly can feel the difference. Both with more energy and I feel so much better all over including my skin and joints.
Are they actually stones, I say they are....but whether they are or not, the sludge that I purge comes from somewhere, and it makes me feel better.Advertisement
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- Re: incorrect procedure or the wrong... DUSA
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This is a reply to # 413,629Well I read a lot of controversy about liver flushing. No one having a real scientific value.
What I can tell you having done about 50 Liver Flushes in a period of less than two years that the cleansing works dramatically well as far as the results are concerned
I started with a flush every month then my digestion improved so much that I decided after 6 months to shift to a weekly liver flush. Now for the last year or so I am back to a flush every other week.
Green stone expulsion has modified itself a lot from the first flushes; at the beginning there were very big ones and also calcified ones which passed. Now there are stones every second flush about and they are very small
and also in quite small number. I have kept the same protocol from the beginning. For what reason did I experience such a tremendous reduction in the quantity and the sizes of the stones if they were definitely produced in the intestine by the same quantities of oil, salts and lemon juice?
Why do I make so many flushes even if I noticed so few stones passing?
Because I feel so rejuvenated by the process. I really dont want to keep any undue sludge in my liver and organs for long. Also I follow an oxygen therapy which clear my body of a lot of toxins which I evacuate trough liver flushes.
The result: I am 58 and feel and look about 48 after these two years having regained a lot of flexibility, energy, muscle power and also I came back to my weight and musculation I had when I was 40 years old.
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- Re: incorrect procedure or the wrong... Thorn
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This is a reply to # 413,628are you doubting that Gallstones exist? Then why the removal of thousands of gallladders every year? The flush, good or bad has nothing to do with the fact that they do exist that they do constipate the gallbladder and can force one into the emergency room and have the gb removed at the price of an incomplete digestive system and up to 20,000 dollars in hospital bills!
If one hasnt flushed actual hard calcified stone only the precursers to them, how does that deminish the belief they exist??????????????????? Rediculous!!!!!!!!
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- Re: incorrect procedure or the wrong... tuffy
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This is a reply to # 413,640with flushing you also have a risk of emergency surgery.....so, neither is actually correct. doctors, naturopathics, herbalists and the like....there is always risk.
period.
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- Re: incorrect procedure or the wrong... spock2001us
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