Have your doctors ever mentioned to you that you may also have intrahepatic stones ( liver stones stuck in the bile ducts)? There are many here, including I believe FlowerChild who had her gallbladder out and then removed tons of stones out of her liver through liverflushing.

For the life of me, I don't understand why doctors do not tell their patients about liver stones , but they don't.

I'm not implying that liverflushing can take away all your problems, but perhaps it can help. Have you read about it? Many health experts believe that the stones actually START in the liver before they are released into the gallbladder anyway.

I wish there was something else I could share with you that would help your pain, and I know that any prescription medication contributes to the formation of intrahepatic (liver) stones. You may need to take some liver strengthening herbs to prepare your liver beforehand. Please let us know so that we can help you. Here is a good site that sells some fantastic herbal products that can help strengthen the liver before a flush:

www.sensiblehealth.com

Good luck, and PLEASE let us know how you are doing. Again, I'm so sorry for all of your problems, and I hope that perhaps doing some liverflushing can prove to be beneficial for you. Please consider it if you havn't. There is some good reading information here at Curezone.

did you try the liver/gallbladder flush?
did you try a slow transition to a vegan diet?

Listen, I'm one of those gallbladder minus mutants also. Before the surgery the doctors actually told me I wouldn't notice any difference without a GB - what a joke. I think there are three major things that happen when the GB is gone: (1) The body's fat balance is all out of whack and not regulated well - I had a chinese meal and my cholesterol rose too high, I thought I was dying. (2) Liver gets packed with stones that otherwise would have gone to the GB or been pumped out harmlessly by the GB. (3) Bile flow is impaired, you can't digest your food, feel like crap, feel depressed, can't think straight, panic attacks, insomnia, fatigue. Any of this ring a bell?

It is thanks to people on this board that I made some serious improvements in the way I feel. It is still a constant effort to stay healthy. But my chances look much better with the Liver Flush and the knowledge I have gained here. I have passed hundreds of stones and gravel in 6 flushes.

I don't chow down indiscriminately like I used to - every meal is calculated consumption to make me feel good. I have found that my body can't deal w/ a lot of foods that I used to eat.

I think you ought to try to gain what health you can back. Try a flush and see if it doesn't make you feel a little better.

Try Dr. Budwig's diet with the flaxseed oil and cottage cheese combo.....up your circulation and energy, clean out your arteries...even your capillaries, dissolve and remove blockages and change all of your cell membranes from being saturated (not letting the nutrients you need in OR the garbage out)to unsaturated with a simple recipe of ....1/2 cup lo-fat or non-fat cottage cheese blended together with 5 tablespoons flaxseed oil, 3 tablespoons ground-up flax seed-this is optional (use a coffee grinder), water-I use enough to make it runny so that I can use it for salad dressing-yum! I also add a little herb salt or tamari to flavor. This is delicious for on top of baked potatoes, vegetables, green salad with veggies, rice cakes, etc. The idea being to not eat any saturated fat because now your body does not have what it needs to thoroughly digest it. There are more recipes available....included is recipe for mayo using flax, shakes using flax and yogurt.....I'd recommend her two books still in print...FLAX OIL AS A TRUE AID AGAINST ARTHRITIS, HEART INFARCTION, CANCER, AND OTHER DISEASES, and THE OIL~PROTEIN DIET .....Good Luck!!!

http://www.cancure.org/budwig_diet.htm

First of all, I am sorry that you feel the way you do, but you have to do some things to help yourself feel better. Your Depression and "blues" will go away, without meds, if your liver begins to work better.
You have to make changes in your diet. You have to begin flushing your liver. There are links on this site for all of this information. I am a new person since I started flushing.
I just finished my 14th flush, on the 13th I got out several calcified liver stones . 14 was basically stone free for me, just a few of those bb size stones.
I have done every 4 week flushes for the last several months. I Will try to stretch it now to every 6-8 weeks.
I plan to flush a couple of times a year to maintain my liver being stone free. I know I will do this for life as I have a type 4 hyperlipidemia that predisposes me to fat and elevated cholesterol, and stone formation. I have had over 2000 stones come out of my that were garbanzo size or larger, most were dime and nickel size. I did not count the absolute thousands that were the bb size stones.
I did feel some relief of symptoms in the first few flushes, but it took about 5=6 to feel significant symptom relief. I was experiencing severe pain, indigestion, diarrhea and all of that after my gb was removed. I learned quickly that my doctor who did surgery on me lied to me that I would feel great after my gb was removed.
Everyone is different. I felt I needed to do 14 flushes. You might need to do just a few. My liver was packed with cholesterol stones. I don't know what is in yours.
BTW, my TG and cholesterol numbers are near normal now on labwork without cholesterol lowering medications. I was on zocar, lipitor, etc for over 15 years. Just another reason to clean out your liver and maintain your health.

Hi, I also am sorry to hear how you feel. Been there, (still there sometimes), but working on getting better. I glanced through the other posts and the only thing I can add which has helped me is to add extra fiber to you diet, this will help with the frequent trips to the bathroom and for me helped with colon cramping also. I take a huge spoon of fiber supplement first thing in the morning and just before I go to sleep, if I miss a dose the problem continues (though not near as bad) experiment with fiber and see what works best for you, this will get you a more normal daily life.
Anna

You have my sympathy! I had my gallbladder out in 1991, and suffered as you describe for about two years. When I complained to my doctor, he said, "Most people are happy afterward: you'll never be constipated again." (I was not before!)He explained that the most of the fat I ate could no longer be digested without the storehouse of bile formerly in the gallbladder. Instead, it passes through undigested, to be excreted in the colon. This is why you have diarrhea. In the old days before pharmaceuticals, people drank some form of oil if they were constipated. I remember my grandmother swigging down vegetable oil. Your food is literally slipping out too fast from the oil.

This is what you need to do. Drastically reduce the amount of fat in your diet. It will take some experimenting before you achieve the right balance. This means no fast food (at least not the hamburger and fries, or fried chicken variety)!!! I found I could handle certain fats and not others: I would get severe abdominal pain within 15 minutes of eating anything deep-fat fried, breaded and fried, etc. I learned with experience that a McDonald's hamburger would cause me hours of agony. High-cholesterol foods like shrimp were bad, too. Milk, butter, and cheese, oddly enough, were fine in moderation (although, until you know you can tolerate them, don't try it for now.) Home-baked cookies with butter were fine; storebought cookies = pain. Just reduce all fats across the board, and completely eliminate all fried/greasy foods. I use a heartburn drug called Prilosec if I occasionally make a mistake and have too much pain (though my pain is not heartburn, but is much lower down, it still seems to work.) But fat avoidance is the key. My doctor also told me (after the surgery) I could now eat as much fat as I wanted, as "it would pass right through". But this is simply not true, for the reasons you have discovered. I have told several friends and relatives about this after their surgery, and they were all more comfortable after reducing fats. Have you heard about the potato chip made with "Olean", the "indigestible" fat? It leaves most people who try it in misery due to the cramps and diarrhea it causes. You can also try to slow down the digestive process by adding more fiber, (though not fruit, for now). Try ground flax seed: it has great corrective powers. Lot of vegetables, whole grain, if you can eat grain. I avoid soy, it gives me cramps, too: another doctor said it was too hard for me to digest now. For cooking use olive oil, not soy or canola: both are known to cause cramps. No Atkins for you!

It will take a while to retrain your body, but you will be able to eat and live again; just a little differently. Eliminate/ reduce the fats, and give it some time: you will get your life back.

Best of luck. I will be sending you moral support in my thoughts.

OMG! I just read your story after posting mine! I'm not as bad as you sound, but I sure can feel your pain about doctors. Were you even told that sometimes people get these side effects after the GB is removed? I didn't. I was just told everything would be super-duper fantastic. Rainbows and Icecream cones.

I'm so sick of doctors! I saw a friend who had hers taken out 3 weeks after I did, and she was eating cheese burgers and pie! I wanted to cry all day! In fact, I did! They sent me back to work when I wasn't ready, and I had to call out often, too. The doctor's wouldn't approve my leave because they said nothing was wrong with me, either. Oh, hun. You have a friend in me, and I'll be thinking of you.