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I've been wanting to get back into the swing of juice fasting and MC, but it's been hard since I moved in with my boyfriend because he's not the type to pass on food if he is hungry.
For the past year, I've even gained weight and I think I've put a good amount on him by cooking so much for him.
He wants a way to lose weight and I know the Master-Cleanse isn't good for first-time fasters, nor is it a weight-loss diet. I also know he won't do the Salt water flush. I'm looking forward to doing it again though, especially if I can get him in on it, so we can support eachother. Does anyone have any advice?
Maybe a substitute for the Flush?
I moved 9 hours away from home and left my Master-Cleanse book with my father so I finally came back here to see if I can get back into the swing of things and remember all I once knew haha so now intead of giving advice, I'm asking for it! Help
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This is a reply to # 260,316Great, glad you have come back to the Master Cleanse. You can find copies of the ebook under Master Cleanse Basics on my blog.
//www.curezone.org/blogs/m.asp?f=770&i=5
Your boyfriend could use the lax tea morning and night and it is a good option.
I imagine the best thing would be that you can do it and he will see how it benefits you and be very interested. Hope rings eternal huh!?
Best wishes on your cleansing!
be happy, be well,
Zoe
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This is a reply to # 260,320Thanks. I wasn't sure that the lax tea was suitable as a replacement for the swf, I recall some controversy over that. I have had trouble myself finding a good lax tea that tastes good haha. I've only used that Super Dieter's Tea...I do believe it's a Senna tea. He is very stubborn. I started off optimistic when he said he'd do anything and was willing to try it but since he's been at work, I'm starting to dread what is going to happen. Haha and we only have one bathroom!
He also smokes...a lot. And I've started smoking again as well but I know I can quit. He has been talking about how he also needs to quit though so maybe this will work out very well.
Oh thanks for the link to your blog.
Since he is only doing this for weight loss, I might tell him he can have diet colas since they're calorie free...I'm just worried about the artificial sweeteners and unnatural ingredients. I do it for cleansing, the weight loss is a definite plus. I just don't know how I am going to get him through this.
Do you suggest a good goal for someone who's been a toxic eater all their life and smokes and is doing this for the first time? My last fast was on juice for 30 days but if I tell him he's not going to eat for 30 days, he'd get so stressed out and probably say forget it haha.
I suppose 10 days for him would be a good start.
ANOTHER PROBLEM.....for some reason...he doesn't want to ween himself off of bad food or eat smaller portions or healthier food for a few days before he starts, he just wants to jump in. Any advice on how to get him to change his mind? I've explained that starting doesn't mean not eating...there are steps involved and having never done this before, it would only make things easier for him.
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This is a reply to # 260,324Well, the mom in me would like to recommend that you do what is right for you and not work too hard at convincing your boy friend to do something to better his health and life. He needs to own this decision and will not appreciate it as much if he feels you are *forcing* him to change.
Another big issue for me would be the use of Aspartame in diet sodas. A real no-no, not only on The Master Cleanse but in life in general. Big corporations lobbied to get this neurological poison passed by the FDA and as I write, the state of New Mexico is still trying to get it banned statewide. Others will follow as those who fight for the right to health battle the big corporations who lobby to push stuff on the public without adequate testing....here are some links to all the info you may need or want to discourage anyone from ingesting anything with aspartame. Splenda is not splendid either....
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=aspartame&sa=Searc...
I would do the cleanse and allow your boyfriend to get curious and somehow hope it becomes his decision to accept your invitation to join you.
Best wishes on your healing path!!
blessings,
Zoe
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- Re: Haven't done this in a while and... herb-gal
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This is a reply to # 260,329He has already said he wants to. I definitely don't want to force him. He wouldn't let me; he won't do something he isn't comfortable with or doesn't want to do.
I suggested after he said he wanted to start taking pills to help. I also suggested that ear-stapling thing, but I don't know too much about it, I would be willing to try it as well haha.
The diet soda thing was kind of an off the wall suggestion. I'm just really worried about him. I don't know how to help make this a good experience for him.
I suppose my worry stems from his life-long habits of toxic eating and I don't know what to tell him about the smoking even though he wants to quit for his health as well. I just don't want him to think he can't do it or to think he failed and then not try it again.
It's just been such amazing experiences for me and I want him to be able to fully understand it and feel the same.
He seemed quite interested in the juice fasting quite a few months ago when I talked about it but we never got around to having extra money to buy a new juicer because I left that at my father's house as well and the one I gave to my sister gets used by her boyfriend to juice wheatgrass
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This is a reply to # 260,333My neighbor is a school teacher and she and a good number of the other teachers decided to get ear-stapled. They had someone come to the school and do them all. My neighbor said it did not do anything for her, and more than a few women got infections. I looked at the staples and they are different than those that an acupuncturist would put in. I have used those successfully. So, I would suggest being sure to go to someone reputable to get something like that done.
Sounds like your boyfriend may jump aboard even though he may be his own worst enemy. Perhaps doing it buddy style will really work for you. Lets hope so!!
blessings,
Zoe
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This is a reply to # 260,324smooth move tea is delicious...and they even have a chocolate flavor now..havent tried it- Re: Haven't done this in a while and... herb-gal
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This is a reply to # 260,342I remember looking for Smooth Move tea before but I could never find any. The only lax tea I have ever found is that Super Dieters Tea with Senna in it. Any suggestions on where to find it?
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This is a reply to # 260,347i dunno what state you are in...I get mine at publix..or a health food store... do you have those?? all natural food stores that sell nothing but good food..the way a real grocery store should be.- Re: Haven't done this in a while and... herb-gal
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This is a reply to # 260,349I tracked down a health food store called Morning Glory Natural Foods. When I walked in to buy my syrup and salt, I noticed the place looked kind of...not so much empty but...not abundant. I was almost afraid they wouldn't have what I needed. They did though and I was pretty sure they would. I can look again, I don't remember seeing Smooth Move but I didn't remember the name to look for when I went in.
I will look again tomorrow and if not...there's another store in the next town over where I lived last year. It's the same branch though...I do remember it being much more impressive than the one I walked into today though.
I live in Texas.
And...if I want to help him do this, I want to find the best things he can actually down. He's really picky and he'll say nevermind if we can't find anything that he can stomach. Personally...I'll down the swf every morning and drink the nasty tea at night, I don't care, as long as I'm getting cleansed out hah.
The only thing I'm worried about is my work schedule and his. We don't have set schedules...I mean we have them ahead of time but they're different everyday and I'm used to either being off of work and class or just having class at set times everyday. Hopefully we can hack it and not gross eachother out with the sounds that will be coming from the bathroom :)
Hopefully regular lax tea will do for a BM because...I just thought about what his position on enemas would be and that would be a no-no. He needs some major enlightenment ;)
- Re: Haven't done this in a while and... amberlynn72
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This is a reply to # 260,352smooth move is made by traditional medicinals brand....there are umpteen different kinda teas... i also drink alot of yogi teas...you will find smooth move to have a spice taste...they put many spices in it ..like orange cinnamon and the like. i have like 15 boxes of different teas:)) haha... also have you looked into taking colon cleanse pills??? i take those also...honestly i dont think its super necessary to take lax tea and swf..if you have colon cleanse pills...this time i have just been doing that and occasional lax teas...
- Re: Haven't done this in a while and... herb-gal
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This is a reply to # 260,353I thought it was a bad idea to take pills with a fast.
I've never looked into colon cleansing pills.
I even went back to edit my last message but I think you responded before I could submit it. I know he would be against any enemas though.
I don't think I'd know what to look for in looking for colon cleansing pills. Can they be found anywhere...that's not the same as just some typical laxative like ExLax, is it?
Wouldn't swallowing pills cause salivation which revs up the digestive system when we want that to rest? I'm not really sure, it's been a while for me and even then I've only done very few short water fasts, a couple long juice fasts and two MC's- Re: Haven't done this in a while and... Life-n-Light
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This is a reply to # 260,354pills will be hard on the stomach and the fillers may make you sick on a cleanse.
stick to the tea.- Re: Haven't done this in a while and... herb-gal
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This is a reply to # 260,356The fillers? What do you mean? What is so bad about the pills? They will give my big bear a tummy ache? :)
Personally I would prefer to drink teas and perhaps a swf just so that I have some diversity in drink
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This is a reply to # 260,354mmmm no ex lax is a bad idea...at your health food stores you can find colon cleanse pills...i take dr schulze's intestinal formula #1 and #2 ...also ask barefoot has a good one in my colon cleanse pills there are ....curacao, cape aloe leaf, senna leaf and pod, cascara sagrada aged bark, oregon grape root, jamaican ginger rhizome, garlic bulb, and habanero pepper.
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This is a reply to # 260,352that he should of listened to you.
right now i too am on the first cleanse with my s.o. not a smoker but everything else (caffine and bad food and some etcs. )
anyway i told him to precleanse diet with me and he didnt. so last night i was up all night with him and his headache and feeling like crap. (he was not me)
anyway. he pushed through even though he thought about quitting and i told him if he felt too too sick he could.
day two he went to work. still a little sick but was fine by the end of the day. he said next time we do this he will listen because he NEVER wants the headache he had last night EVER again. haa haa
that dieters tea is senna. i prefer Alvita brand organic 100%senna tea. you can find that in health food stores and online. they even oxygen bleach the bags which are also staple free so you can zap it in the microwave.
my s.o. has to ride public transpo to work for about 30 minutes. so he doesnt do the swf. i dont either because i HATE it. it makes me really sick. i instead have one senna tea every three days,ensure i am having enough water, and add a little pulp to my lemonade. this makes movements 2 or more times a day for me. this is the way my s.o. is going to be doing it too. he wants to try the SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) on an off day.
and its so fun doing the cleanse together. i really like it. much better than a solo ride.- Re: if he wont listen, let his body ... herb-gal
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This is a reply to # 260,355So Senna tea every few days and pulp in your lemonade is enough for the BM? I don't want to have all these hardcore "must-do's" for him or else he might feel intimidated and back out on me. I still have to wait for him to come home from work to talk more about it to him to make sure he wants to do it right away.
Haha because I mean...for the first time in a while our kitchen is FULL of food haha I JUST WENT GROCERY SHOPPING!
He is kind of a very high-strung guy...I thought it was just one of those Alpha male things going on but he's just...I don't know. Hopefully doing this will help him calm down a bit and be a little more relaxed. Perhaps we will not only get along better but understand eachother better after doing it together.
I'm going to have to scour over those health food stores for teas because I keep only finding one kind of Senna tea which I'm not too fond of myself...and the swf really is disgusting now that my memories are coming back to me.
Anything on those colon cleansing pills?- Re: if he wont listen, let his body ... Life-n-Light
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This is a reply to # 260,358with those pills...his stomach is probably going to be queasy anyway...the warm tea in it feels good. a pill can hurt. fillers or not. but they can fill them with sugars and starches.
the tea every three days and pulp and MAKE SURE ENOUGH WATER. water keeps it all moving. (1/2 his weight in ounces per day)the tea and SWF (Salt-Water-Flush) keep you from getting a detox reaction by speeding up your natural elimination processes. the pulp is suggested in the book as a laxative. not something i just invented.
get plain senna. with maple syrup in it, it just tastes like a chamoile/green/herbally tea. its really not that bad.
well since you have groceries why not just eat them and take the time to prepare and find the right tea. and get him to cut back at least if not quit smoking. and any other bad habits he might have. maybe have a 48 hour master cleanse just as a test run so he can see what he is getting into.
goodluck!
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This is a reply to # 260,360I was thinking about that...the whole...not wasting the food we have and use the time to get ready for it. I mean, I don't even feel comfortable just jumping into it. Just the thought of it made me get up and eat a bowl of cereal haha. It's been a while for me and I also began smoking again.
We have some major habits to kick and I think it's best that we prepare pretty well. That's why the only thing I bought when he told me to just go get what we need, was syrup and salt, because I know I'm going to do an MC...we needed good salt anyway.
I'm still not sure if he'd be better off doing juice or lemonade. I got all excited talking about the juice with him and mentioned beets and he just got stern and disgusted. He's not big on trying new things.
Oh I've made my fair share of not so great tasting juices but it's all about experimenting and finding things you like and new things.
I'm going to talk to him tonight and see if he is really serious about getting into it and if so, it's best that we take at least a couple of days to prepare and definitely do some pre-fast dieting. I've told him that he can probably lose more weight on a raw or negative calorie diet but...fasting just seems more effective to him.
I have a feeling he wants to do it for the wrong reasons and...oh I'm just getting worried now. I'm going to try to remain optimistic and not get discouraged because I think a fast would make him feel so much better. I think he's been feeling a bit depressed lately as well. - Oh I have a good idea! herb-gal
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This is a reply to # 260,360I could buy a scale so we can weigh ourselves.
If I can get him through the first couple of days, seeing the amount of weight he will drop would definitely encourage him to keep going. That's hoping that he's one of thsoe that loses weight right away as opposed to not losing much until the 5th or 6th day.
Haha I think I'm just nervous about him trying this out with me. I really want him to succeed and like it so that I can feel good about doing it as well. I don't want to continue after he has quit and make him feel bad or even have to watch him eat delicious food while I drink salt water haha
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