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In some African villages, nearly everyone is infected with Mansonella perstans, a parasitic worm that's remarkably hard to kill. It's resistant to standard anti-worm medications, but researchers have learned that an old Antibiotic can vanquish the tiny beasts — in a roundabout way.
The parasites are stuffed with a type of bacteria called wolbachia, and apparently they depend upon those microbes for their own survival. By killing the bacteria inside of the worms, doctors can destroy the worms themselves.
To test that concept, an international team recruited volunteers with M. perstans infections from four villages in Mali, and gave 69 of them a dose of doxycycline each day. After one year, all but two of the patients who took the Antibiotic were free from worms in their blood.
"Doxycycline is the first drug that has been shown to be effective in clearing Mansonella perstans parasites from the blood of infected people," said Amy Klion, a doctor at the National Institutes of Health who led the study. "The fact that the parasites were not detectable in the blood 3 years after the 6 week treatment suggests that doxycycline also had an effect on the adult worms, which live in the tissues surrounding the lungs, heart and abdomen."
Roughly 120 million people worldwide are infected with filarial parasites. Many of those worms will fall after a single dose of albendazole and ivermectin, but M. Perstans is too tough for both drugs. Thankfully, it's far less destructive than other types of nematodes. It usually results in itching, fatigue, and dermatitis.
Wolbachia have proven to be the Achilles' heel of nastier parasites too. Before Klion and her team showed that doxycycline can be used to treat the annoying worm infections, other doctors learned that it is an effective way to eliminate their nasty cousins, the parasites that cause elephantiasis and river blindness.
Despite the success of those treatments, nobody knows for sure why the worms and bacteria are interdependent.
"The basis of the endosymbiosis between wolbachia endosymbionts and their wormy hosts is currently not understood.," wrote Achim Hoerauf, a doctor at the Bonn University Clinic in a commentary for the New England Journal of Medicine. "Some conclusions can be drawn from the fact that worms lack essential genes for certain metabolic pathways that are present in wolbachia, and vice versa."
Hoerauf suggested that the treatment might not work everywhere. In other parts of Africa, researchers have found worms that can live without wolbachia. Despite that concern, he is convinced that the Antibiotic will work in some parts of the world. When the infectious disease expert emailed us, he was on his way to distribute the antibiotic in Ghana.
At less than two dollars for a six-month supply. Doxycycline is a bargain for nongovernment organizations. But they might not buy it for the purpose of eliminating M. perstans.
"Doxycycline is not very easy to administer as a mass drug treatment since it absolutely cannot be given to pregnant women or children under the age of 12 because of effects on developing teeth and bones," said Klion. "Second, courses shorter than 4 weeks have not been very effective in other filarial infections, and this is a very impractical for mass administration."
Because the symptoms of M. Perstans infections are pretty mild, Hoerauf doubts that charities will try to eradicate it with doxycycline. But he thinks that the versatile drug will be used to treat many cases of river blindness.
Citation: A Randomized Trial of Doxycycline for Mansonella perstans Infection, New England Journal of Medicine, 361, 2009
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This is a reply to # 2,427,781Doxycycline uses in parasitic infections
Doxycycline works on the DNA of some species of Pathogens. Replication for parasites can be impeded in some cases.
In the early days, I advised a challenge startup of a few weeks to a month, to gauge reaction. I had one.
Single dose daily.
Several reported a reaction, if there was a reaction, longer courses seemed logical.
If one challenge tests Doxy, and there is no reaction, it is logical to say the need is not obvious.
parasite infections sometimes pose situations, where continued dosing may not be logical, but is indicated by the formula or protocol.
That is to say, if it suppresses female egg production, or other characteristic, one may not have a reaction you notice, but if it is in the formula, one should consider its use.
Doxy is part of several formulas of ICU, Sharkman, and others.
I advise from my experience, that if a formula uses Doxy, you should use it.
I am not aware of any glaring reactions to the med Doxy itself, that are "adverse", nor do I recall anyone ever telling me they had a bad reaction from the Doxy, that was not ascribed to the parasite infection.
It is not an Antibiotic of the typical kind, it may affect some good bacteria profiles, but I have not found that significant.
Doxy can help lower systemic bacterial issues. This makes a lot of larger parasite infections, and systemic infections easier to deal with, when the worms have less bacteria in their gut.
During Ascaris treatment, I used it once a week, along with Mebendazole, to clear the system of the microbes and pathogens that come out from dying large worms during prolonged kills.
Later on, as part of a filarial protocol, I found it helpful in clearing out a somewhat complicated threadworm situation.
These thin guys, are like threads, you seldom feel them, except at either end a touch of wiggle, or bite.
Since these guys go anywhere, can pain under EO applied externally, or leave in a hurry, it is difficult sometimes to identify the species.
I also believe Doxy helps with small and large strongyles, but not as much as thyme, oregano, pine needle.
So I did an extended dose of Doxy, Never did one before, even when clearing my strongyloides infection.
I was searching to eliminate any filarial infection, that I suspected.
Using DEC and Doxy, at quite a level, and quite a time length would wipe the infection.
Indeed, I felt the complicated threadworm population decrease, as though I was less one worm. I did Doxy Daily at higher levels for months before stopping.
It is known to interfere with some minor human processes, but most of these concerns are always secondary to stopping the damage parasites cause.
So, short, pulsed, or long term patterns, Doxy has uses in various phases of parasite cleaning.
It is tough to know what kind of dosing is appropriate sometimes.
I think, when it is part of a protocol, one just does the pattern of dosing suggested, when in that context, it makes sense.
For heart worm infections is considered one of the primary meds.
For filarial species, eye worms, it is considered one of the primary meds, even over antiparasitic meds in importance.
It is known to lower bacteria in small parasites, like those thought to be involved with Lyme.
For pathogens like trypanosomes, White worms like hook, Toxo, Ascaris, Ascarids, Filarials, Reds like Strongyloides, Strongyles, it lowers their gut bacteria.
Each one may have its pattern of pulsed dosing.
Daily Yogurt is a habit for life, to keep balance of Lacto Bifido bacteria in GI.
Many find that antifungal substances are also useful, in keeping parasite guts clean.
A healthy parasite has less energy, and is easier to kill.
People sometimes ask me, what is the dose?
My answer is:
If you have never been on it, try a week or month as a challenge test at 100mg.
Many formulas call out for twice per day, so 200mg. For persons that weigh 50 kgs, this may be an issue.
I just did a filarial run at 400mg per day, twice the suggested maximum, for 3 months, 100kgs. I consider this an extreme level, weighing the risk of the med vs the risk of a complicated removal of a single pathogen. I decided to test the highest level that could possibly make sense.
So daily 100 or 200mg as the formula or protocol calls for.
Weekly single dose 100mg for long term systemic cleaning.
Some may find it useful in a maintenance role as well, where challenges are done every 3 months, 6 months, or a year in length, just to make sure nothing emerges.
Doxy has a life expiration date that is short. Never use old Doxy, the medicine turns toxic. Keep it cool.
Sun exposure may cause a reaction and lowering of strength of Doxy in the body.
Lyme infected persons have suggested to me that a pattern of dosing seems to help, in the long term.
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This is a reply to # 2,427,791Thank you for the added info Matt, I know this is an older article but still relevant. I too would rather use natural Antibiotics such as the oregano oil, lemon grass, etc..., but will use whatever is at my didposal at the time...
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This is a reply to # 2,427,794There are many infections that just improve, with the correct meds, supplements, and minerals.
Getting to an infection early is important.
For those that have a difficult infection, Antibiotics , antifungals, microbe and pathogen elimination is part of the challenge.
Early challenge tests of mostly natural products, can show effective measures against infections one really has no idea they have.
Yes, there are a few pharma meds that are useful as well, in eliminating a wide range of pathogens and microbes.
Herx response usually comes as a surprise to many people. I was in shock when my first fungal kill happened, the windows all had to be opened to deal with the foul smell.
Many Herx reactions occurred over the past years, all most all of them from naturals, and unexpected.
Indeed, even when clearing species of pathogen and parasites, often there are smells generated that would peel paint on the wall.
Early in clearing parasite infections, I suggest to many that SIBO, SIYO, SIVO infections be cleared, so as to take pressure off the small intestine and immune system overload.
There are many pharma and natural products that do this, and kills of these pathogens often come as a surprise.
In the group I correspond with, we have spent about 2 years working on specific naturals, much of the work concentrated on oils.
For these most difficult cases we have settled on three essential naturals, that help bust parasite infections.
Thyme
Oregano
Pine
Indeed the best forms are
Thyme leaf vulgaris Capsules
Wild oregano oil (common) oregano
Pine Needle oil, but early work was in Pine Bark extract powder Capsules.
These naturals are the strongest and most effective.
All 6 of the final severe complicated infections yielded to these naturals.
The doses vary, but certainly initial doses were quite high, then over time, the level goes down.
I started thyme at 60 caps per day, and now do 6.
I started oregano oil at 4 grams, now do 1 gram per day.
I did pine at 2 ish grams, now do 600 mg per day.
I have had reports of improvement in flat, white, red worm killing.
The severe reactions one can have with thyme leaf, so intense in systemic infections, I now suggest a spooky 2 zapper with gel pads, to keep a mass of traveling worms out of the head, and its sensitive parts.
When a worm in in a nest, or bone, it absorbs no antiparasitic meds.
When forced to travel, it gets a snoot full.
Quick progress occurs.
Thyme in higher doses, can help slow worm movement.
They are out of the nest, not really doing much damage, and are in circulation of meds that take them out.
Yes, naturals are an essential part of the process, when used with purpose, to get a result.
I myself found these naturals to be essential to clearing the toughest red worm infections, Strongyles.
I use all three naturals listed above, daily, with daily doses of Greek yogurt. OXFen and these naturals have virtually stopped my infection, 8 years of work finally coming to a close.
Yes, natural products have Antibiotic properties, but it in the enzyme busting, protein busting, immune system alteration properties that thyme, oregano, pine possess, that make them the king of naturals.
Yes, more powerful than doxycycline, but these things are known in the natural community for decades.
Even Dentists now realize the power of oregano.
What I found astounding, was the ability of oregano EO to clear bone infections, when used externally.
Orange and Grey fungus looking slime came out of my sinus and teeth, when applied externally daily.
I means ounces of the stuff would snot out, foul, and unbelievable. Nothing surprises me anymore.
This frequent spot of parasite occupation for years, had a hidden E Coli infection?
After much research, all I can say is that bones, tissues, have deposits of common pathogens, parasite deposits, and waste that are eliminated using naturals.
Yes, naturals seem to be just as important, or even more as important, than the meds themselves.
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This is a reply to # 2,427,804Hey Matt, my local supplements store (independent mom & pop locally owned brick and mortar shop, I like supporting them out of princilple)
has a limited product line of essential oils, more brands of Oregano than anything, I bought Natural Factors brand since it claims minimum of 80% Carvacrol and was one of the better price points. It’s pretty strong tasting and smelling stuff. my first dose was about 0.5ml sublingual, and I was glad I had a strawberry milkshake in my car with me to help wash it down!
As for Thyme, they had no Thyme capsules but had some essential Thyme oils,actually meant for aromatherapy but 100% steam distilled oils with no added carriers or additives.of any kind. Claims to be GCMS tested for purity. Brand is Pranarom. Label says external use only and no contact with eyes or mucus membranes, and to dilute with plant oils before using topically. They had two kinds Thyme ct Linalol and Thyme ct Thymol. The lady that runs the store says that people do buy these for internal consumption and blend a few drops into honey and a little butter and mix it up well. She also said The Linalol version was what her reference book said to use for parasites. It’s composition is this in percentages:
Linalol 72.04
Linalyle acetate 6.21
β-Caryophyllene 4.40
Thymol 3.92
p-Cymene 1.71
Geraniol 1.14
γ-Terpinene 1.09
The Thymol version is:
Thymol 46.80
ρ-Cymene 19.18
γ-Terpenine 9.60
Carvacrol 4.60
Linalol 4.13
β-Caryophyllene 1.88
β-Myrcene 1.61
Terpeninene-4-OL 1.59
α-Terpinene 1.35
Borneol 1.24
α-Thujene 1.22
Camphene 1.00
Based on the storekeeper’s recommendation I bought the Linalol version...
I also have a bottle of finely ground Thyme spice and a near endless supply of gauge 00 empty gelatin capsules.
Recommendations?
Also for the pine needle oil, they have many different versions of that:
Black Spruce, Balsam Fir, Douglas Fir, Silver Fir, Scotch Pine and Yellow Pine.
Any recommendation on which one of those I should buy?
BTW, I’ve identified Mansonella Ozzardi as a fillarial infection I’ve got.
You were absolutely right about these infestations happening as layered multiple species.
So far, I’ve identified and eliminated Fasciolopsis Buski, Fasciola Hepatica (thank God i’ve only seen less than a dozen of those come out and they ceased, thanks to 6 doses of triclabendazole spread over 6 weeks, Schistosoma Haematobium (this and the F.Buski were eventually wiped out by repeated 60mg/kg body weight doses of praziquantel.
Combining praziquantel, fenbendazole and pyrantel pamoate has revealed the Mansonella Ozzardi and a mysterious segmented large diameter armored-with-scales creature that I’m not sure is a worm or what the hell it is but it’s intestinal, I’ve passed at least a half dozen of these, two of them had spherical shaped heads an inch in diameter and almost looks like a cross between a lobster tail and the body of a centipede. They’re covered and tangled up in dendrites that look more plantlike, greenish yellow emanating out of a single central pore in the belly of each segment, and small Mansonella Ozzardi are inside them and coming out of them. It seems as though the mansonella are using these as an intermediate host in lieu of an insect, to form a complete reproductive cycle inside me. I’m now taking Praziquantel, fenbendazole, and Ivermectin and this has killed off a lot of the mansonella, but not what looks like the most mature adults. It might have killed off the last of those mysterious..... things. First time I saw one I used the freaked out phrase of “OMG, I just sh*t out a F’ing DRAGON”. I’ve been unable to identify the species. It’s too thick and segments too oval to look like a cestode. It might be some kind of amphipod. it looks like it might even have several pairs of really stubby feet towards the anterior end. I passed what I hope is the last one of those last night, it was about 1/3 to 1/2 the size they usually are, guessing by segment size since they usually come out all disintegrated into pieces and the segments are easily confused as flukes due to their large oval footprint with one pore in the center, easily mistaken as a sucker, and the think height and curved, arched top skins. The largest one seemed to have been approx 6-8” in long, ai have nevr counted the number of segments in it. I have it in a large plastic bottle preserved in 91% isopropyl alcohol but haven’t mustered up the willpower to clean it up for photography yet.... the though of looking at it again is still kinda tramatizing. The Ivermectin ended up really pissing off the remaining Manzonella a few days ago, they started coming out of my skin, nostrils, and corners of my eyes (tear ducts). They dissolve holes in the skin trying to escape the poison environment of my bloodstream. They made my skin look like aged, haggard hell, but it is returning to normal now. the one that tried coming out of my eye corner tearduct, I squashed it to death under she skin before it could emerge and then the whole lower eyelid and sinus area behind there swelled up and my eye swelled shut with bad conjuctivitis.Day before yesterday, I took Moxidectin instead of Ivermectin and no more praziquantel or fenbendazole.... taking a vacation from those for a while since I did a 8 day stretch of those three every day. I was having a whole body immune reaction and running a fever too. That was Wednesday night when I took the Moxidectin and I really felt sick all over from everything and I went to bed and slept for 24 hours, Woke up about 12:30 am this morning (Friday 10-4) and it’s now 8:15 AM. I’m actually feeling really good right now, my skin has cleared up a lot, and my eye swelling is almost gone. I’m probably going to take another dose of Moxidectin but maybe not until tomorrow evening since I have a big event to attend tomorrow, it’s an “all years High School Reunion”, which will be the 39th for my graduating class and a couple days ago, I announced my coming out on the reunion Facebook page. I was going to wait until the real, actual 40th class reunion next summer before letting the cat out of the bag to all my old classmates, but recently learned that one of my old friends..,. one who I was especially looking forwards to surprising with revealing myself to, had just passed away from cancer. We’ve now lost 30 of a graduating class of 275 over 39 years, many of those in the last two or three years, most of us have already lost our oarents, and siblings, and many ofnthem have even lost their own children by now, so I thought it was time and posted my announcement and will make my grand debut to those who show up to the first ever “all years reunion” tomorrow, and the rest of them who won’t make it until next summer, or oerhaps can’t make it back to here and can only attend via online community get to know the new me. I don’t want to never be able to introduce myself to any more of my old friends... and despite being a rather conservative, rightwing small town high school..,. the outpouring of support has probably surprised me more than my coming out surprised any of them. All the outpouring of support, new FB friend requests, and my Facebook messenger blowing up with so many of them, even the socialite snobs that I didn’t like back in high school all those decades ago, it all had me literally crying before the end ofnthe day.... and for everyone else reading who’s confused by now.... I just came out to my old high school graduation class of 1980 that I am transgender and have been transitioning over the past 3 years. None of them ever saw this coming, so I at least got to surprise them really good!
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I use the simplest, easiest, and cheapest meds, that do the job.
Yes, I bought expensive mixes, exotic oils, tried every dose, etc.
I built exotic formulas, got experience, simplified, then finally added back into the mix, antiparasitics.
Keep in mind, I did naturals and only naturals, for months, to see if they could surpass pharma.
After to many antiparasitic failures/relapses, I needed to identify the best sustainable naturals.
Then created a naturals formula for Trypanosomas, when the pharma could not be purchased reliably.
Then I did a filarial formula, mixing naturals, I believed at the time, cellulose on skin was filarial in nature, maybe.
Then I did a strongyle formula, still trying to isolate cellulose from large and small strongyle, maybe.
Then I found OXFen for human study. Naturals and OXFen stopped strongyles large and all stages, with papain, a little Moxi, and some oregano/castor oil on skin.
Very simple formula. AM/PM
1 wild oregano oil cap
1 pine needle oil cap
3 thyme leaf caps
10mg/kg OXFen in honey Greek gods yogurt
So my problem is solved.
Moxi on pattern on/off
Papain in cranberry when eggs birth GERD/Sinus/Throat acid. Sip till eggs are dissolved and throat no longer acid and slime from birth gone. Oh yes, when gel ball coughed up (L2) sip a bit more papain juice.
That's it.
Real simple.
It is like revision 10 Formula 35.
Done.
Ready to recover and get back to work.
I could write a book just on thyme, pine, oregano.
2 second pitch is thyme dissolves worm enzymes, inside the worm.
Pine forces human immune system to stable interleukin 1/2 balance in the presence of red worms.
Oregano reduces worm gut bacteria/fungus, lowering its energy.
There is a lot to say on the dosing, getting your life back, and the way I started high on these then lowered to a sustainable level.
Filarials need Doxy, DEC, ALB, IVM. The filarial hyper infection formula is more complicated.
Nominal doses are Doxy 100mg 2XD, DEC 1mg/kg 4X/D, ALB 1mg/kg 4X/D, IVM 400ucg/kg 1X/D.
Usually formula clears in less than 30 days, but several filarials have a worm cycle a few weeks later, so ....
Doxy should be maintained for months, continuously, up to 6 months I read.
Complicated infections often require maintenance, and regression doses, so challenge for your infections every 6 months till you are sure they will not come back. This saves time when you find weird relapses that are an infection returning.
Once it is gone, is gone.
Flukes can take several rounds, later to make sure they are gone.
Schistosoma is kind of strait forward, never came back. (Think I did 5 weeks, and first round of meds. So it was simple as compared to some of the rest.
Weird parasites can be prehistoric, marine parasites, or pseudo multicellular creatures. Prazi, peppermint, sometimes insect meds like Lufenuron, In the last year several sent me pictures that I labored on for many hours to id. Sometimes a family is as close as you can get for an id.
If you get a hit on naturals, castor oil, peppermint, ginger root, etc, sometimes it gives you a clue.
When you are complicated, it takes reasoning to figure out by symptoms, visual Id, area of the body, what is going on. A lot of talk with others can help.
Clues, via safe challenges of naturals is a hit or miss, but hugely rewarding activity when done safely and produces or removes the cloak of another parasite infection.
parasites inside parasites is a symbiotic infection. The most dangerous kind of complicated infection.
The ball head worm may be some prehistoric tapeworm, by memory only, pictures are very helpful.
Don't worry about the skin, once you get rid of the parasites, it gets much better looking.
The small scars like on the back of the hand leopard skin kind of stays, and liver spots faint. If I put the hand backwards towards the elbow, the lines of leopard skin can still be seen. Who knows, CQ10 may help them fade when applied externally.
Your level of complication seams high, this should involve a detailed documentation of what you know, and commented on by as many you can find with similar infections.
I have had almost every family, but each infection is unique. Getting to those magic key ingredients that unlock your situation can take time. Common parasites are easy to unlock. Exotics take longer. I correspond with 4 or 5 people who brought pictures from the deep. They try mixes of things that work for others, trying to unlock their infection.
I know what that feels like.
For face and head infections, I and We, in the group, have used extensive use of EO oils.
I now favor oregano EO above all others, especially for areas.
Worms learn to avoid it.
Internal caps, and external oregano EO, done continuously within limits, eventually drive the worms out of a territory.
Mixes of pyrantel and oils externally, and naturals, works well.
Moxi doses are 40ucg/kg, about a drop of Moxi. Never dose 400ucg/kg, it can make you sick. The stuff stays in your system for 20 days, so higher doses can get your level way to high. Research the proper dosing technique.
Sounds like you are a survivor.
I will circulate your parasite descriptions, to see if anyone else has similar.
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This is a reply to # 2,427,858Thanks Matt!
I don’t know wherento get DEC and then only ALB available seems to be Valbazen goat drench without ordering from overseas (ADC or IHP, which usually take about 21 days to get here, at least that was my experience when I used to buy my hormones from them, and always worried that customs might seize them, but never did). Is Fenbendazole close enough to ALB to work? And Fenbendazole metabolizes to oxfendazole after first pass thru the liver, so how’s the efficacy for that?
I also have a 50g packet of levamisole, unopened. I’ve been kinda afraid of taking any of that yet since it can wreak havoc with neutrophil count with improper dosing but yet an immune system stimulant with correct dosing, only problem is many blood tests have to be done to find the correct dose per individual.
In addition to the meds I’ve been taking, I’m also taking multivitamins plus extra A, B12, C, D3, E, CoQ10, mineral supplements iron, selenium, zinc, magnesium, calcium, MSM, and herbals Goldenseal, Myrrh, Elderberry, Beet Root, Ginger, Garlic, Tart Cherry, Milk Thistle, Resveratrol and Papaya Enzymes with papain, bromelain and alpha-amylase.
I have onhand, turmeric-curcumin and cayenne capsules but those really irritate my. stomach and esophagus badly. I have coconut oil and castor oil too but haven’t taken any of those yet .- Big picture of Meds, Formulas, and C... mattk3
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Big picture of Meds, Formulas, and Cofactors
Sources for antiparasitic meds should never be discussed on the open forum, use private message for that.
I discuss general information. To be specific, takes a deeper understanding, usually done through a lengthy correspondence.
I have taken a range of all meds, to understand the limits. Experience.
I give general guidance, so people understand what we as a group have learned for many over a period of time.
This provides nominal numbers, that may not always apply to your situation.
DEC = Dimmitrol
Overseas is not preferable unless required.
In general, most things are domestic sources.
Preference is a USP product whenever available. These are human grade meds.
Sources for meds that are USP grade, are showing up in the pipeline, many are designed for animals, fish, birds.
So USP is the highest quality level one can find.
In cases where a med needs to be pharma, like pills, identify businesses others have used.
Many have bad practices, out of date meds, about to expire, etc. Just because it is on the internet, does not make it a good source.
Quality overseas suppliers take time to identify, know those you know on CureZone, what they use.
Ask them privately.
FenBen is a red worm med. It is a bit more harsh.
While OXBen is easier to take at higher doses, few side effects, gentler on the system.
Prolonged FenBen needs to be close to the standard dose 5mg/kg/D.
When reds and whites are present, one takes OXBen and FenBen at the same time, with cofactors, etc.
To lessen the load, one med can be taken at 2X/D for a time, then the 2X/D is switched to the other med.
Too much antiparasitic, not enough yogurt, a few get GI problems.
To be clear, OXFen is a gentle version, that causes fewer GI issues in the long run.
ALB is a White worm med.
They are not the same at all.
FenBen works for some more common reds, Certain small hard to knock out species, Cures can take a lot of this.
Some go to FenBen powder, I know of several that bought by the kilogram. Saves money. Few kept records of the quality of the overseas suppliers, testing did occur, but again no records.
Lately I have seen publications of suppliers by domestic firms. When a large firm publishes quality numbers, it makes purchasing off shore easier. It was in a Chem database.
I kind of feel OXFen is better by far. Yes it is a liquid.
ALB is a co-factor for most situations.
While ALB can be used for some worms, and generically protects organs in the human more than other meds, its prime advantage is as a co-factor.
Albendazole is able to get through body protection mechanisms, gate keeper molecules. Like in the BBB.
So ALB helps other meds work better, hence the name co-factor.
ALB typically is taken 4X per day, due to its short half-life.
So small doses, 1 - 2 mg/kg is all you take for most formulas.
As a liquid, shaking the bottle first is required.
More than 8mg/kg/D causes hair to fall out.
A few see hair problems at lower doses. Prolonged antiparasitic dosing can cause chemo hair. Years are required for chemo hair to resolve.
Levamisole is not for the faint of heart, usually employs a digital scale, small caps, etc.
The threshold is 1.25 mg/kg/D. like most meds, it is similar in dosing.
I suggest you keep Levamisole below 0.75mg/kg and use it as a co-factor only.
Example:
Flatworm formula: Complicated.
Primary med Prazi
Cofactor ALB
Cofactor LEV
Cofactor DEC for complication white
Cofactor FenBen for complication Red, or use IVM.
Supplement Vitamin D
The primary med, doing the work is Prazi 33mg/kg/D. Dose is /4.
ALB is a penetration cofactor, 4-8mg/kg/D. Dose is /4.
LEV is an Immune cofactor, Defeats MUC gateway receptors, Effect is lower than nominal, so dosing below the threshold of activity gives a benefit AS A COFACTOR. Dosing 1.25mg/kg/D means 4 doses of 31mg is ok.
DEC is a subject itself. I suggest in document 255, 2mg per day to 4mg per day is nominal. Some have told me they needed much more, their infections of white worms can be deduced by this situation. If a person requires more, the problem may be a large White worm population like Ascaris or Ascarid.
That person suggesting I increase DEC dose level saw that - Flukes came out only when he dosed DEC at 12mg/kg, which is an unsustainable level, more dangerous to the GI, and needs to be pulsed to keep the average level lower. Hyper Ascaris persons are the only situation that warrants higher than nominal 1X dose per day levels. The nominal level for DEC (1X) is 4mg/kg/D to a upper level of 8mg/kg/D.
I always give nominal levels, with the belief, the average number tells you what to expect.
Caution:
Dec is a special med, requiring a ramp, small 50 mg doses per start, some vomit at 25mg, if you have heartworm this could be dangerous without a long slow rise in dose. If you get heart pain, stop! Get the Dirofilaria test.
DEC is a filaricide in that it punches holes in worms, letting stuff get in and out of white worms.
Prazi is a filaricide in that it punches holes in flat worms, letting stuff get into and out of flat worms.
These cofactors have an important role in the creation of a generic formula to work in situations of a complicated infection.
The goal is to get a result, irrespective of a person's infection, and work the first time, get into the killing zone.
Success breeds Success, Failure breeds Failure. Yes, the formula is a bit complex, but it is more important to use a formula that works 90 - 95% of the time, and not just make excuses why Prazi did not work.
As a redworms cofactor, FenBen or IVM dosing can be used.
FenBen or IVM can be done at a stasis dose, (typically 1X nominal standard dose per day or half that dose near the threshold). This keeps an infection from growing, and causing disruptive enzyme patterns in the human.(worm cycle symptoms) If you can pay attention to the symptoms you are killing, with fewer distractions, it is an easier process.
So a person with a red, white, flat infection needs a med or two from each category of meds, to make a stable situation, and only one med is used for killing, in this example, Prazi for flats.
So a formula needs to take into account the co infections.
The development of a formula needs to understand sub threshold, threshold, nominal, 2X dosing, and max dosing, max 30 day dosing, behavior of a med in the body.
A person needs to understand stasis, nominal killing rate, and higher dose killing rates, over time, to get a feel for a formula.
Say everyone else kills at 5mg/kg for a med, and you only get there at 10mg/kg. You should understand you have an unidentified coinfection, your body is out of balance, or you are missing something. That is why having a feeling for each med is required and knowing what to expect is essential. Then you can judge what makes sense, and what does not make sense.
Development of a formula should have a goal, one target.
Just taking stuff without enough education can lead to failure.
I thing knowing what you are doing is essential to treating yourself.
This is the primary goal, educate before medicate.
Balance.
Minerals, Metals, Amino Acids, Compounds, Herbs, System alterations, Ph., Toxin removals are a huge subject. I have spent years explaining how what when, what works, How to get your body into the parasite killing zone.
It all starts with a pH test for your human enzyme level, sublingual.
It starts with a hair analysis for essential minerals and metals.
Then one can gauge, acidosis level, depletion level, and understand their situation.
Without a pH above 6 or 6.5 they could die from a reaction to antiparasitics, or in a HERX reaction.
In situations where metals above Iron atomic number 29 progressively fall in your report, you are in acidosis.
In situations where minerals and metals are depleted, the immune system has ravaged the body for resources, and a person is near collapse. Again you perceive nothing. These tests tell you the shape one is in.
Then and only then can you gauge if a person needs a few supplements, or a bowl full per day.
This is the big picture.
Ever watch Creator is a 1985 film directed by Ivan Passer, starring Peter O'Toole, Vincent Spano, Mariel Hemingway, and Virginia Madsen. It is based on a book of the same title by Jeremy Leven.
It teaches the arrogance and insight of the "big picture", in a comic way.
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This is a reply to # 2,427,791Hi Matt I read your post and I have a severe parasitic infection. I tried everything. Then I decided the Antibiotic and anti-worm meds. I ordered Bactrim 800 (went on this for 6 wks) Then I started the Doxy. I too took 400MG a day and I only weigh 125lbs. I research constantly and The frustration of these I need this over, its been 7 years for me and I am at the end of my rope. I honestly cant take anymore of this. I also was taking albenza 400 bid, and vermox 200 bid. I take approx. 20 herbs a day and I make my an EO of the 4 thieves and added oregano and thyme. I was on Doxy 3 months and it was really helping. I added Amoxil 500mg 4 times a day. I went of Doxy thinking I was on it to long. I did Pyrantol 3 days the ivermectin(horse paste) 3 days I went back on albenza about 2 wks after going of doxy. I am not sure what I have by tests. I have ones that get on all the bones, white some are real long then I have these little white ones coming out. I have Hookworm and I have seen whipworms and roundworms. I see litte black specs everywhere and I thinking the are eggs. THis last week my feet hands and legs are so swollen I can barely walk. Then last night all the white worms started coming out of my hands. I was frightening how many there are. They are on all my knuckles, in between fingers and toes go up my legs and arms, coming out of my nose, and in my gums. I am clean almost to a fault. Please help me this is to much for me to handle anymore. I am thinking I might need surgery get them all out yet gave up on Doctors. I just ordered more Doxy , DEC, albenza, vermox and another antibiotic(forgot the name) I have nitroimidazole I will take until others come, I am so baffled on where to go from here. I never would have believed this would be possible. I clean 4 hrs a day work then sometimes im in shower hours trying to get rid of these. Ive used every remedy from turpentine, CS, I also use Homozone. My hands are going down yet my feet and legs are so swollen and numb. The Depression has become unbearable. I am wondering if I will Ever get past this and if I do the fear of this returning. Im in a nightmare and honestly I this will not be gone I would rather be dead then live like this anymore. Its robbed me emotionally, spiritually, financially, any social life, friends and family. The worst part I cant share with anyone either they don't believe you or in my case now the just don't want to hear about it because then they have to take a look at themselves and they have them too. I am sorry if Im all over the place with this. I am trying to put 7 yrs into a short post. Thank you please help me with a protocol. I am not sure how to use this site and receive mail etc.
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This is a reply to # 2,430,191Hi Moonwater7
I have the exact same thing you have. Every description of symptoms. Especially how it is attached to the ankle bone and goes all the way up the legs and arms. Its pretty frightening. I need to know what you know. I can tell you that we have a springtail infestation. No matter how much you spray or clean the crawling and biting gets worse. It's because you are infested not your environment. But u know that. I know that matt helped you. Please pm me here or send a message to my email bbrowning49@gmail.com. Im ok with everyone knowing my email so allow this message pls.
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