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I am on day 6 of my 4th consecutive water fast. I've had to stop previous ones due to the return of true hunger but I want to make it to day 20 this time. Or at least get my weight down to the 90s. My dilemma is my weight loss is super slow now and the hunger is still present. Also I have a doc appt on Mon and they have to draw blood. Is this a cause for ending the fast. How do I speed up weight loss. Below are stats.
Ht 5 foot 7in
Cw 107
First gw 95
2nd gw 85
Ugw 78
Also once I hit 95 was thinking do alternate day fasting or only eat 100 cals a day. Thoughts.
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- Re: Advice Wiseoldelf
7 y
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This is a reply to # 2,362,855Hi a faster method would be dry fasting (no water) its apparently 3 times more effective than a Water Fast but you can only go "safely" for like at most a week.
- Re: Advice srinath
7 y
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This is a reply to # 2,362,906I'll be starting a dry fast - in fact started it midnight. The idea is to go dry a few days and then go to water till I'm done.
I have eaten a few days very calorie rich food and was 172lb after eating last night.
So today on I wont be weighing myself. I'll know when I'm good to start eating. I think.
Thanks.
Srinath.
- Re: Advice srinath
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- Re: Advice loquat1
7 y
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This is a reply to # 2,362,855Message deleted. Inappropriate advice unwittingly given to an OP who suffers from an eating disorder.
- Re: Advice archus
7 y
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This is a reply to # 2,362,855You have posted this message multiple times. That tells me that you are Not getting the answers you are seeking.
I have mentioned this to you before. You are way under the ideal weight for 5'-7" person. It seems to me that you have an extreme, arbitrary ultimate goal of 78lbs.
Drawing blood by a doctor should not be a problem. Some of you blood work may show up better and some out of range. Are you telling your doctor that you are fasting with water only?
What is a true hunger to you?
You know on average you lose 1lb/day. Dry fast will give you more weight loss, but any sign of discomfort and you will have to drink water, sip water slowly.
Peace.
Archus
- Re: Advice #69242
7 y
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This is a reply to # 2,362,855Hello...
Just sayin'....
I'm one inch shorter... The minimum weight I *should* be is 114lbs... So your minimum weight *should* be a fair deal heavier. 107 is much too light for your frame. And weightloss SHOULD NOT be a personal goal for your fasts for your particular weight. This is actually disordered thinking. You won't be healing - you will most likely cause irreversible damage. Take it from someone who really does know first hand.
You need to do some soul searching as to why 90lbs seems like a healthy goal to you - because it's not. This is the talk of an eating disorder (or an internet troll?)
You will need to nourish and refeed your body and cells with highly nourishing foods and eat properly.
Work out your macros and add 20% to gain weight until reach an adequate weight then re-assess your fasting goals. Why is it that you would like to fast? Do you suffer from ED?
If all is good then fast away with a healing purpose... Not unrealistic and unhealthy weight loss.
At that your proposed weight;
-you will loose your hair
-you will wreak from decomposure
-you will have zero libido and won't enjoy it
- you won't be able to think
-you will be depressed and miserable
-your bones will calcify and dump into your system
-your endocrine system will be screwed
-your digestion will take possibly years to recover if it ever does
-infertility
-you will grow fine long hair all over your body just to keep warm
- you will be so deficient in vitamins and minerals that you will suffer painfully with many ailments...
DO YOU REALLY WANT TO LIVE LIKE THAT?
Is that your goal of fasting?
Really? Choose healthy! Choose goodness!
I fasted and accidentally got only a very few of the above symptoms and hated the very mild ones I got. It was gruelling to everyday recover from that... And I never did it because I was disordered... Imagine if you do it purposely to achieve 90lbs!
Stop and think!
- Re: Advice Jguthri5
7 y
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This is a reply to # 2,363,459Yes I've had an eating disorder and was forced to gain this weight from 78 lbs. I look horrid. Broke my fast because was about to pass out at work. Going on another one again. I will get to my goal and don't care what I lose getting there as long as i lose weight
- Re: Advice #69242
7 y
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This is a reply to # 2,363,463Ok. I have a background in psych, and I have gone through some similar thoughts after a fast - though I didn't have ED... My body/heart/mind just got used to being so underweight and thin that any weight I gained during re-feeding had to be muscle and even then I preferred to be lean. I was always thin, but never had ED, but after an extended fast I lost well over 20% of my total body weight and was only 7% body fat. Though I've always had a healthy outlook, this skewed my perception of what was healthy and normal. This was only last oct/nov btw... But... I shook it off and realised that my thoughts were not healthy, and were harmful.
You need to realise you are harming your wonderful body. I urge you to seek help.
Re-feeding is a mighty task for those who have been so deathly thin. You are not fasting. You are starving. Your heart mind and body are not healing... They are being harmed.
I love health fasts, but I'm sorry to say, what your are doing is not a health fast... It's a starve... On your way to death. Have compassion for yourself and stop punishing your body with abuse. Talk to someone about the hurts you feel behind what you are doing. This isn't about thin... This is about a pain your experiencing.
Peace to you - Re: Advice archus
7 y
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This is a reply to # 2,363,463Jguthri5,
Listen to everyone here who are only trying to help you and point you in the right direction. Thank you for letting us know that you had an eating disorder.
You really want to seek professional help now, because you sound obsessive about weight loss and that is not what fasting is about. Passing out at work is a sign that you need to stop fasting totally till you figure out why are you in this state. Being on plant based diet will help, but you really need to talk to a professional. We all have our own issues. You are going to get out of this, but only you can help yourself.
Take care of the beautiful body that is given to you.
Peace.
Archus
- Re: Advice #69242
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- Re: Advice loquat1
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This is a reply to # 2,363,459
My bad. I thought the OP was talking kilos. I see I'm not the only one to get the wrong end of the stick. But I'm still confused. I assume this is a boarder with multiple accounts?
@ OP - Whoever you are, get help, before you kill yourself. Fasting is not (I repeat NOT) for ppl with eating disorders of any description. You are deluded about your own self-image if you think that any weight over 78lbs looks horrible.
As long as you believe that lie, you are not in control. There is nothing attractive about a skeleton to anyone, except to yourself. That alone should tell you something.
Now go get that help before it's too late.
- Re: Advice #69242
7 y
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This is a reply to # 2,363,475It's not that easy... Every kilo you put on feels miserable. One becomes fixated on ridding whatever food they receive from their bodies in any way, to not have the weighty heavy feeling. One feels a high and mastery over eating when they see their bones jut out. They feel like they are in control over food and eating and their devilish scales. They see the skeletal frame as a beautiful achievement. They feel beautiful with a light empty stomach. They loath themselves with any nourishment inside them.
It's so so sad.
I was waiting for someone with ED to infiltrate a health fasting forum with disordered thinking.
It really creeps up on a person and sucks them in. It's frightening. I've never had ED but I have felt it trying to creep in... One needs to fight it with everything they have. It's a mental battle.
The OP NEEDS!!! To calculate their daily required calories/ macros and increase by 20% to gain weight. Take up a discipline to redirect those fixated thoughts... Martial arts, sports, bodybuilding, dance.... Anything! But eat well and respect their body by giving it it's rights.
I know how bady re-feeding is...- Re: Advice loquat1
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This is a reply to # 2,363,507
I'm under no illusions pineapple. I know how destructive mental illness is. I have a sister who has been bi-polar for over 40 years now, and still shows no signs of ever coming out of it. It's now looking like only her final resting place will give her release from her torment.
I had to say something to counter the well-meaning but misguided advice I gave earlier when I was unaware of the OP's true state. I have now edited that post, but I'm well aware that the chances the OP will pay heed to anything I say are next to zero.
- Re: Advice #69242
7 y
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This is a reply to # 2,363,527Yes, I don't think the OP will listen. Either they are genuinely suffering from mental illness, perhaps using this forum as a cry for help, or perhaps they are internet trolling, for cheap thrills.
I have a feeling there are multiple posts from the OP, in relation to fasting possibly under diff user names.
I always knew curezone would eventually attract posts like this. I really am concerned for the OP.
Saying they will do anything to achieve that weight is honestly going to kill them. The body cannot sustain function under those conditions. This is far far worse then self harm. This is severe abuse that will lead to death.
- Re: Advice loquat1
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This is a reply to # 2,363,626
At the end of the day, there's only so much we can do. They come here for advice, and we give it in good faith, giving them the benefit of doubt regarding any ulterior motives. What they then do with that advice is down to them.
We can't force them to follow it. If they wilfully choose to ignore it and die as a result, there can be no blame attached to us. Does a medic get blamed for a patient's death if the patient refused to follow his advice?
- Re: Advice loquat1
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